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To 174.49.4.11, I'm glad you are interested in improving the Hayslip bio. There is a lot of information out there about Ben Hayslip - a baseball past [1], three sons [2]. Since the article has survived one AfD, I think we should try to use only information from reliable secondary sources with a history of fact checking consistent with wikipedia policies. "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party (independent), published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" WP:SOURCES This unfortunately means not including some information that is true about him but hasn't appeared in the press.

Poorly written and utterly lacking in respectable third-party sources

I don't know how this article made it past the stub phase. I could not find one valid source in the first couple of sections of this article. I finally found a couple of sources that could be used, so I added them and in some spots corrected inaccurate citations. However, this article is a bit of a mess. Someone has added scads of songs attributed to him. We need valid sources to confirm this man's authorship of those songs. This article needs proper sourcing all the way around. Unfortunately, I can find only one, maybe two, published articles about him. It appears he is either early in his career and has not yet attracted the attention of the working press, or his career has not gone as he might have wished. I had never heard of him until I was working on another article today and stumbled upon his name and link, but I am not into country music, so that is probably not unusual. I encourage other editors to join me in enthusiastically and aggressively seeking proper, valid, third-party sources for the information provided. This article needs help. All the best. MarydaleEd (talk) 01:15, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 To 174.49.4.11, I'm glad you are interested in improving the Hayslip bio. There is a lot of information out there about Ben Hayslip - a baseball past [http://www.fanbase.com/Ben-Hayslip], three sons [http://www.evans88.org/class_profile.cfm?member_id=331796]. Since the article has survived one AfD, I think we should try to use only information from reliable secondary sources with a history of fact checking consistent with wikipedia policies. "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party (independent), published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" [[WP:SOURCES]] This unfortunately means not including some information that is true about him but hasn't appeared in the press.
+== Poorly written and utterly lacking in respectable third-party sources ==
-== Really rough article ==
-I don't know how this article made it past being a stub, but that is neither here nor there now. I could not find one valid source in the first couple of sections of this article. I finally found a couple of sources that could be used, so I added them and in some spots corrected inaccurate citations. However, this article is a bit of a mess. An editor, or more likely someone affiliated with this person, has added scads of songs attributed to him. We need valid sources to confirm this man's authorship of those songs. This article needs proper sourcing all the way around. Unfortunately, I can find only one, maybe two, published articles about him. It appears he is either early in his career and has not yet attracted the attention of the working press, or his career has not gone as he might have wished. I had never heard of him until I was working on another article today and stumbled upon his name and link, but I am not into country music, so that is probably not unusual. I encourage other editors to enthusiastically and aggressively seek proper, valid, third-party sources for the information provided. This article needs help. All the best. [[User:MarydaleEd|MarydaleEd]] ([[User talk:MarydaleEd|talk]]) 01:15, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
+I don't know how this article made it past the stub phase. I could not find one valid source in the first couple of sections of this article. I finally found a couple of sources that could be used, so I added them and in some spots corrected inaccurate citations. However, this article is a bit of a mess. Someone has added scads of songs attributed to him. We need valid sources to confirm this man's authorship of those songs. This article needs proper sourcing all the way around. Unfortunately, I can find only one, maybe two, published articles about him. It appears he is either early in his career and has not yet attracted the attention of the working press, or his career has not gone as he might have wished. I had never heard of him until I was working on another article today and stumbled upon his name and link, but I am not into country music, so that is probably not unusual. I encourage other editors to join me in enthusiastically and aggressively seeking proper, valid, third-party sources for the information provided. This article needs help. All the best. [[User:MarydaleEd|MarydaleEd]] ([[User talk:MarydaleEd|talk]]) 01:15, 1 May 2023 (UTC)