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== Alberta Party in Infobox == |
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It's time folks. The [[Alberta Party]] is now polling exclusively below 10%, well below their 2019 support, and now struggles to maintain a 5% average. They have sub-30 candidates and as of writing this, looking at the Elections Alberta page post-candidate deadline, they may have sub-20. They are not expected to win any seats, including their former stronghold of [[Calgary-Elbow]], and very unlikely to win their leader's seat in [[Brooks-Medicine Hat]] where Smith is running. It's time we take them out of the infobox. [[User:Jebussez|Jebussez]] ([[User talk:Jebussez|talk]]) 02:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== WIP in the Infobox == |
== WIP in the Infobox == |
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Alberta Party in Infobox
It's time folks. The Alberta Party is now polling exclusively below 10%, well below their 2019 support, and now struggles to maintain a 5% average. They have sub-30 candidates and as of writing this, looking at the Elections Alberta page post-candidate deadline, they may have sub-20. They are not expected to win any seats, including their former stronghold of Calgary-Elbow, and very unlikely to win their leader's seat in Brooks-Medicine Hat where Smith is running. It's time we take them out of the infobox. Jebussez (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
WIP in the Infobox
The merger of Wexit and the Freedom Conservatives has not finalized yet, and there is only one poll including Wildrose Independence Party of Alberta. But if the merger is finalized and they continue polling above 5%, then we should add them to the infobox.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 22:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- I note that NebulaRoamer (talk · contribs) has now added the party to the infobox. In view of their numbers in the last couple of polls, I endorse that move. Steve Smith (talk) 04:06, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. They have polled well above 5% in numerous polls now. Perhaps more importantly they also appear to be receiving meaningful coverage in WP:RS including in the CBC, Macleans, Global News and the Western Standard.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Remove WIP in the infobox
WIP is now polling under 5%, the only reason the WIP is added because it polled above 5% in 2020-2022, I think we should remove it now — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymousioss (talk • contribs) 01:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. I don't see a great reason to favour them with infobox coverage over the Liberals or Greens anymore. Maybe even less reason, given how few candidates they've nominated. Kiltarni (talk) 14:13, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- I support removal. WIP have such weak polling now, for example polling below the Liberal party since October 2022, so having them in the info box seems like an unearned advantage compared to some other small parties. 86.12.163.51 (talk) 11:57, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Nanos UCP number
Discussion for how to deal with the Nov 1, 2021 Nanos survey, where options were given for "UCP under Jason Kenney" and "UCP under a different leader". Should these two numbers be combined under UCP, or should "UCP under a different leader" be added to "other"? As long as there is a note explaining what was done with the "different leader" number, I would be ok with either option. Lilactree201 (talk) 01:39, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Green Party of Alberta
Could somebody re-add the Green Party of Alberta and Leader Jordan Wilkie to the header? The GPA is currently polling at 5-6% (in polls in which they are included), ahead of both ABP and WIP. 142.110.39.187 (talk) 18:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know if the Greens should be included or not, but we might want to discuss whether or not WIP should be in the infobox. They're not running any candidates (yet), and are polling in the 1-2% range. -- Earl Andrew - talk 20:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think the Greens would need to be in the ~5% range for a few polls, not just one or two. Alternatively, they would need a MLA to be in the infobox. I don't have strong opinion about WIP but agree that the fact that they are polling quite badly and have no MLAs means that they might not belong there. That said, I don't think we should be too worried about rushing to remove them. In the last Ontario election we were pretty permissive with other new upstart New Blue and relaunched Ontario Party. They were removed after the election when they failed to receive 5% of the vote. But if WIP doesn't run candidates by the deadline they definitely should be removed (same goes for any other party that doesn't field any candidates).--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- ABP is polling 3-4% right now, and do not have any sitting MLAs. If 5% or MLA are the criteria, then no 3rd party should be included. 2605:B100:72C:F889:E140:149C:FEA:5FB (talk) 00:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think the Greens would need to be in the ~5% range for a few polls, not just one or two. Alternatively, they would need a MLA to be in the infobox. I don't have strong opinion about WIP but agree that the fact that they are polling quite badly and have no MLAs means that they might not belong there. That said, I don't think we should be too worried about rushing to remove them. In the last Ontario election we were pretty permissive with other new upstart New Blue and relaunched Ontario Party. They were removed after the election when they failed to receive 5% of the vote. But if WIP doesn't run candidates by the deadline they definitely should be removed (same goes for any other party that doesn't field any candidates).--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm opposed to the Greens in the infobox. They aren't even included in most polls. On the other hand, I would be in favour of removing the WIP from the infobox. They have tanked in the polls within the last year, and haven't announced any candidates yet.
At this point, the Alberta Party is the only third party that should be in the infobox because: 1. They got 9% last time. 2. They are included in every poll and receive around 5%. Skylerbuck (talk) 22:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I oppose adding the Greens for now, there is not enough supporting data yet from multiple pollsters. I would support removing the WIP, as they have collapsed from their polling heights to below the 5% level and, as far as I can tell, are no longer receiving significant media coverage. So, they have lost the two reasons for which they were originally added. I support keeping the AB Party as they do consistently hit 5% - half the polls in 2023 so far have them at 5% or above. There is also a precedent on Canadian election pages that takes into account that their previous election result reached the 5% threshold. Lilactree201 (talk) 21:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Echoing the calls to remove WIP from the infobox, and would recommend we think about doing so for the Alberta Party as well, particularly if they fail to meet a significant candidate threshold following the May 11 candidate deadline. Jebussez (talk) 05:30, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- My preference for the infobox as the campaign starts - oppose Greens, keep AB party, remove WIP. Hard to distinguish among the minor parties for inbox worthiness at this point besides AB party's previous result, and often reaching 5%.5.148.27.26 (talk) 11:00, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
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