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*'''Wanda''', [[WP:COMMONNAME]]... [[User:Merko|Merko]] ([[User talk:Merko|talk]]) 18:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
*'''Wanda''', [[WP:COMMONNAME]]... [[User:Merko|Merko]] ([[User talk:Merko|talk]]) 18:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
*'''Wanda''', per previous comments, "Wanda" is more commonly used AND the character needs to be differentiated from her brother who has the same last name. [[User:JoseJan89|JoseJan89]] ([[User talk:JoseJan89|talk]]) 09:26, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
*'''Wanda''', per previous comments, "Wanda" is more commonly used AND the character needs to be differentiated from her brother who has the same last name. [[User:JoseJan89|JoseJan89]] ([[User talk:JoseJan89|talk]]) 09:26, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

== The Vision ==

In the info about Vision, it was written that Bettany plays an '''original version'''. Can you define the term original? I do not think it means created for the show since White Vision also appears in the comics. [[User:JEDIMASTER2008|JEDIMASTER2008]] ([[User talk:JEDIMASTER2008|talk]]) 03:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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Accolades

Hi, WandaVision won an award at the "Clio Awards" and two awards at the "Sec Awards", could someone please add them? --Jeremy0818 (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As the Sec Awards do not have their own Wikipedia article, they aren't considered notable for inclusion. do you have a source for the Clio Award WandaVision won? I didn't find anything. —El Millo (talk) 06:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Too bad that the "Sec Awrds" are not taken into account, this is the source of the "Clio Award" (https://clios.com/music/winner/93473) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 06:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done —El Millo (talk) 06:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello me again, today the Irish Film & Television Awards were held and Jim O'Hagan and Ed Bruce were nominated by WandaVision in the VFX category, they did not win, so someone could add your nomination please.--Jeremy0818 (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done —El Millo (talk) 02:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Wandavision has 5 Dorian Awards nominations. The nominations are credited on IMDB and the Dorian Awards itself has a wikipedia page. I hope someone add them. (https://deadline.com/2021/06/pose-wandavision-galeca-lgbtq-critics-dorian-tv-award-nominations-1234777545/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CocoBrei835 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 20:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, I have seen that they added several nominations with the result of "pending" so I wanted to say that WandaVision has 4 nominations in the Gold Derby Awards and in the Golden Trailer Awards, just in case someone wants to add them.
-(https://www.goldderby.com/feature/2021-gold-derby-tv-awards-nominations-list-1204332987/)
-(https://goldentrailer.com/gta21-nominees/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 22:47, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot, it also has a nomination in the MTV Millennial Awards under the category Killer TV Series --Jeremy0818 (talk) 22:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done and  Done. —El Millo (talk) 23:25, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, WandaVision won at the MTV Millennial Awards, could someone change it from pending to winner please? --Jeremy0818 (talk) 16:51, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If someone might need the reference, here. (https://trome.pe/celebrities/mtv-en-vivo-miaw-2021-fecha-horario-cuando-es-como-votar-por-artistas-nominado-lista-de-categorias-mtv-millenial-awards-ver-online-transmision-resultados-en-directo-danna-paola-rauw-alejandro-mexico-noticia/) --CocoBrei835 (talk) 05:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done —El Millo (talk) 05:42, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, today the TCA Awards nominations came out and WandaVision got four (https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/2021-tca-awards-nominations-list-ted-lasso-wandavision-1235020447/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added —El Millo (talk) 20:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Could you add that WandaVision was nominated in the Best Adaptation from Comic Book / Graphic Novel category at the Harvey Awards, Loki's series was also nominated in the same category if you like to add it, Thank you very much. (https://www.comicsbeat.com/2021-harvey-awards-nominees-revealed-and-voting-is-now-open/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 01:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 02:32, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Actress Teyonah Parris has a nomination at the Black Reel TV Awards, and WandaVision has two nominations at the International Online Cinema Awards (The International Online Cinema Awards do not have a wiki page but I have seen that sometimes they are added as in Fifty Shades Darker (film), mother!, List of awards and nominations received by Anya Taylor-Joy and many more). The Falcon and The Winter Soldier series also has nominations at the Black Reel TV Awards and the International Online Cinema Awards, Thank you so much.
-(https://m.imdb.com/event/ev0004817/2021/1)
-(https://www.imdb.com/event/ev0003084/2021/1?ref_=ttawd_ev_6) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 23:18, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added Black Reel Awards. The International Online Cinema Awards don't have an article and I haven't found they've been reported by main outlets, so it is not notable for inclusion. —El Millo (talk) 00:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since it keeps changing, can we please settle on one order for the accolades table? I feel it should be by date of ceremony, then in the sourced category order, then alphabetically by nominee (though by episode if there is one is also fine). - adamstom97 (talk) 23:51, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to the order of the Emmys, I initially put it in the order in which it was in the official file that's used as a reference. Someone else came and reordered it, apparently on perceived "relevance" for them. —El Millo (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am referring to the order changing in general, but I haven't been checking all the diffs and just saw the back-and-forth in edit summaries. Just wanted to make sure the order we are using makes sense. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't make any further edits to change the Emmy order as it is now. Regarding the order in general, we should stick to ceremony date, until most or almost all awards have been given, then we'll change to alphabetical order by Award name as we commonly do. —El Millo (talk) 00:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WandaVision won The ReFrame Stamp -(https://deadline.com/2021/07/reframe-tv-stamp-recipients-wandavision-bridgerton-lovecraft-country-pose-1234796290/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 06:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have added this in prose at the top of the section since it isn't really an award to be won like those in the table. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:11, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the winners of the Golden Trailer Awards have already been announced, someone could change it please. -(https://goldentrailer.com/gta21-winners/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 05:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 06:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, WandaVision and Loki are nominated in the BreakTudo Awards, someone add them please? -(https://www.breaktudoawards.com/aqui-estao-os-indicados-do-breaktudo-awards-2021/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 02:41, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The award's article is currently nominated for deletion, so it's best to wait until that's finished. —El Millo (talk) 03:18, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination for deletion has been closed as delete, so we won't be adding it. —El Millo (talk) 07:39, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the Gold Derby Awards have already announced their date for August 18, and also Christophe Beck and Natalie Holt are nominated in the World Soundtrack Awards for WandaVision and Loki, in case anyone likes to add them, Thank you very much. -(https://www.goldderby.com/article/2021/gold-derby-tv-awards-winners-voting-deadline/) -(https://www.worldsoundtrackawards.com/news/discover-the-first-nominees-for-the-21st-world-soundtrack-awards) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. —El Millo (talk) 18:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, WandaVision received a nomination at the TV Choice Awards in the Best Family Drama category. -(https://www.bauermedia.co.uk/newsroom/press-releases/tv-choice-awards-2021-shortlist-nominations-announced) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 19:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, WandaVision and The Falcon and the Winter soldier recived nominations at the Online Film & Television Association Awards, could these awards be added? The Daredevil series does have them credited. -(http://www.oftaawards.com/television-awards/25th-annual-tv-awards-2020-21/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 03:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These awards seem not to pass the threshold for notability, as they do not have a Wikipedia article of their own. —El Millo (talk) 17:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War Prevention: Evan Peters role as Ralph Bohner vs "Pietro Maximoff"

@Lashana Lynch: There was a discussion about writing Evan Peters' role in the cast list (see here). For one thing, Ralph Bohner is an existing actual character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe world, hence the format of Peters' role in the cast list. The character's description already laid out him posing as "Pietro Maximoff" so no need to change Peters' main role into that and just keep Ralph Bohner as it is.

To avoid an edit war, kindly refrain from making changes without discussing it here. Thank you for your understanding. Centcom08 (talk) 22:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Centcom08: How do I discuss it here? The name Ralph Bohner was only used once, and he primarily portrayed him as "Pietro" under Agatha's control, really portraying Agatha speaking through him if anything. It makes more sense to say "Pietro Maximoff" up-top then mention his real name immediately below, the next sentence. Lashana Lynch (talk) 23:02, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your question, kindly wait for other editors to respond to have a WP:CONSENSUS. Despite his name being only mentioned once, the writing of events in the fiction world (i.e. MCU world) remains that the actual character's existence is a resident of West View named Ralph Bohner. If the character returns in future installments then he will return as Ralph Bohner and not "Pietro Maximoff". Here are the sources that confirms Evan Peters' role is actually Ralph Bohner only posing as "Pietro Maximoff", which is already beautifully laid-out in the character description: 1, 2. Centcom08 (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's too confusing to have his credits swapped around from every other Westview resident in the list. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dick Van Dyke show details

In the Writing §, under "Sitcom influences", it is claimed "... the first episode pays homage to The Dick Van Dyke Show, which ran from the late 1950s to the early 1960s, and was meant to have a general 1950s time period."

The source on this point is unreliable as to airdates, as the original pilot dates from 1960, while the show itself began airing in 1961.

The source, while incorrect about show run dates, does NOT claim that either The Dick Van Dyke Show or WandaVision is meant to represent the 1950s. To claim this is Original Research. Chaswmsday (talk) 00:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first episode is set in the 50s, and the first two episodes were inspired by the Dick Van Dyke Show, so the content isn't entirely inaccurate, but it's already included elsewhere. —El Millo (talk) 03:24, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have updated the wording and source to hopefully address these concerns. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RFC about what to refer to Wanda Maximoff as

Should Wanda Maximoff be referred to as Wanda or Mazimoff? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wanda For real people, policy is very clear to refer to them by their last name opposed to their first name in the majority of situations. However, that policy has never supposed to apply to fictional characters. Sure, we can use it when there isn't a clear common name, but that isn't the case here. The character is referred to as just Wanda all the time and is extremely referred to as just Maximoff. The name of the show is literally WandaVision. The WP:COMMONNAME is extremely clearly Wanda over Maximoff. There is simply no reason to keep referring to her as Maximoff instead. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy close The RfC initiator has made zero attempts to discuss this matter beforehand, as mandated by WP:RFCBEFORE. Secondly, there is existing WP:LOCALCONSENSUS to use last names on MCU articles when referring to characters for consistency, as documented at WP:MCU#Miscellaneous. InfiniteNexus (talk) 15:55, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are a handful of editors watching this article still, so presuming a regular discussion would not receive responses does not hold up. It is bad form to go against the local consensus at WP:MCU#Miscellaneous. The MCU character articles have not been as closely watched for following the local consensus of the MCU taskforce. and that article refers to other characters such as Rogers and Stark by their surnames, so it should be consistent in that approach, as is the case with other MCU articles, and should follow this article's approach as an extension of that. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, no, no. The Wanda character article uses Wanda because Pietro has the same last name and is extensively discussed on that page. This is done in accordance with policy, and WP:MCU#Miscellaneous touches on that as well. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wanda per MOS:SAMESURNAME and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_task_force#Miscellaneous, since Pietro Maximoff is also referenced on this page and because she is consistently called Wanda, almost never Maximoff, in-universe. I'm baffled by the argument above that the MCU Task Force consensus would support using her last name - she hits both the criteria that it says would require a first name (possible confusion with her brother, and her last name is rarely used in-universe, presumably for that same reason.) --Aquillion (talk) 18:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – I think we should be more open to not always using last names. We can still have that general rule of using last names by default, but when it starts to become clear a character is primarily referred to by something other than their last name, we should treat it accordingly. It seems that Wanda is one of those characters, just as Ned and MJ from the Spider-Man trilogy are, for whom we've already implemented this. This, however, does not mean we should be checking whether each character has a common name other than their last name every time a new one appears, just that we should do it when it becomes obvious. Otherwise, it would be too much. —El Millo (talk) 01:25, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    It might become troublesome if this list continues to grow... InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:00, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    How so? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:06, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I mean, as more and more characters appear in the films, yes, the list will likely grow with time, but that's reasonable and expected. What we wouldn't want to happen is for wandering editors to just start creating RfCs left and right about any character they think "actually" has had their first name used 51 times and their last name "only" used 49 times. I think the consensus we established still prevents that from happening and this change from "Maximoff" to "Wanda" is still within that consensus. —El Millo (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wanda because she is not a real person and is much more frequently called "Wanda" rather than "Mazimoff". Also there's a bonus point for disambiguating with Pietro Mazimoff (aka Quicksilver). CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 10:16, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wanda, WP:COMMONNAME... Merko (talk) 18:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wanda, per previous comments, "Wanda" is more commonly used AND the character needs to be differentiated from her brother who has the same last name. JoseJan89 (talk) 09:26, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Vision

In the info about Vision, it was written that Bettany plays an original version. Can you define the term original? I do not think it means created for the show since White Vision also appears in the comics. JEDIMASTER2008 (talk) 03:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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