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Chicago 16 | ||||
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Studio album by | ||||
Released | June 7, 1982 | |||
Recorded | January–April 1982 in Los Angeles, California | |||
Genre | Rock | |||
Length | 41:51 | |||
Label | Full Moon/Warner Bros. | |||
Producer | David Foster | |||
Chicago chronology | ||||
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Singles from Chicago 16 | ||||
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AllMusic | [1] |
Chicago 16 is the thirteenth studio album by the American rock band Chicago, released on June 7, 1982. It is considered their "comeback" album because it was their first album to go platinum since 1978's Hot Streets.[2] It made it into the Billboard 200 top ten,[3] and produced their second number one single in the United States, "Hard to Say I'm Sorry."[4]: 202 The album was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in August, 1982, two months after its release, and platinum in December, 1982.[5] "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal.[6]
Chicago 16 was the first album in a decade-long association with their new label Warner Bros. Records;[7] the band's first project to be produced by David Foster, who has been called the "key" to their comeback;[7] their first album to include some songs exclusively by composers outside of the group;[8] and is also the first album since Chicago VII (1974) not to feature Laudir de Oliveira as a band member.[4]: 132, 200 It is also the first studio album to be released two years after the previous, as previous studio albums were released annually.
Background
The band brought in Sons of Champlin founder Bill Champlin as keyboardist and singer.[8] The group also retained Chris Pinnick from the Chicago XIV sessions. Through the band's manager, Jeff Wald, and on suggestion of Danny Seraphine, producer David Foster would make contact with the band.[9] Jeff Wald was dismissed as manager and the band enlisted Irving Azoff and Howard Kaufman as their new managers shortly thereafter.
Once they agreed to Foster producing the album (the band had considered him for 1980's Chicago XIV[10]), Foster radically redefined Chicago's sound for the 1980s, with all of the latest technologies and techniques, and also brought in outside songwriters and studio players to the sessions. Three members of Toto lent their expertise to the sessions. In 2015 former Chicago drummer Danny Seraphine defended this choice to change their sound:
David Foster really tried to maintain the integrity of the band. He wasn’t looking to diminish the musicality and the integrity of the band at all. Some people might say that he did. But he was going with what the times dictated. I’m telling you, there was word through our manager from radio stations saying they didn’t want anything with horns on it. How do you deal with that?[11]
The soft rock leanings of Peter Cetera and Foster permeate much of Chicago 16. The band was moving to a new label after an entire career at Columbia. Robert Lamm was also unavailable for the majority of the album's production because of personal issues,[8] and the once-prolific writer only shared a sole partial writing credit on the release, with no lead vocal contributions. Lamm said of this change:
I wasn't happy with the way things were going. The loss of Terry Kath was still massive. Suddenly, we have a new label who wants us to use outside musicians and songwriters, plus cut down the horns. We were a faceless band who now had a face. It wasn't what I signed up for. Also, my personal life was in turmoil at the time. I was very unhappy and came very close to leaving the band.[citation needed]
In an interview in 2019, Cetera described the initial songwriting efforts from band members that were presented to Foster as "pure shit," blaming alcohol and drug abuse in the band for the decline in the quality of songwriting. Eventually, Foster and Cetera collaborated to write the album's two hit singles.[12]
Percussionist Laudir de Oliveira was dismissed from the band after the Chicago XIV tour, as his Latin-American style would not fit with the "more pop-oriented sound" of the band.[4]: 200
Upon its June 1982 release, Chicago 16 was a hit album, especially as "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" became the band's second number one US single,[4]: 202 going to number one on both the Billboard Hot 100 chart[13] and the Billboard Adult Contemporary chart.[14] The album ultimately went platinum[5] and reached number nine on the Billboard 200 chart.[15] The single would also be included in its lengthier form "Hard to Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" on the Summer Lovers movie soundtrack.[16][17] "Love Me Tomorrow", the second single lifted off the album, features a lengthy orchestration at the end. It went to number 22 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart[18] and number eight on the Billboard Adult Contemporary chart.[19] A third single, "What You're Missing", was released and peaked at number 81 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart.[20]
The Rhino remaster does not include the full-length versions of "What You're Missing" and "Love Me Tomorrow." The former was replaced with its single edit, and the latter had two bars of the sequence (prominently featuring strings) that begins the instrumental bridge removed. However, this remastered version does include a Bill Champlin demo, called "Daddy's Favorite Fool", as a bonus track. A subsequent international release in 2010 (included in the Studio Albums 1979-2008 box set from 2015) has the original album restored, with additional bonus tracks of the single versions of "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", "What You're Missing", and Love Me Tomorrow" as well as "Daddy's Favorite Fool."[21]
The original UK LP release contains "Rescue You" before "What Can I Say," unlike subsequent releases of this album.
Track listing
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Lead vocals | Length |
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1. | "What You're Missing" | Jay Gruska, Joseph Williams | Peter Cetera | 4:10 |
2. | "Waiting for You to Decide" | David Foster, Steve Lukather, David Paich | Cetera with Bill Champlin | 4:06 |
3. | "Bad Advice" | Peter Cetera, Foster, James Pankow | Champlin with Cetera | 2:58 |
4. | "Chains" | Ian Thomas | Cetera | 3:22 |
5. | "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" / "Get Away" | "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" (Cetera, Foster); "Get Away" (Cetera, Foster, Robert Lamm) | Cetera | 5:08 |
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Lead vocals | Length |
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6. | "Follow Me" | Foster, Pankow | Champlin | 4:53 |
7. | "Sonny Think Twice" | Bill Champlin, Danny Seraphine | Champlin with Cetera | 4:01 |
8. | "What Can I Say" | Foster, Pankow | Cetera | 3:49 |
9. | "Rescue You" | Cetera, Foster | Cetera | 3:57 |
10. | "Love Me Tomorrow" | Cetera, Foster | Cetera | 5:06 |
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Lead Vocals | Length |
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11. | "Daddy's Favorite Fool" | Champlin | Champlin | 3:52 |
Outtakes
"Remember There's Someone Who Loves You" (Champlin, Lamm)[22] and "Come On Back" (Bill Gable, Lamm)[23] were recorded during the sessions and remain unreleased.[citation needed]
Personnel
Chicago
- Peter Cetera – bass, acoustic guitar on "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", lead and backing vocals, BGV arrangements, rhythm arrangements
- Bill Champlin – keyboards, guitars, lead and backing vocals, BGV arrangements
- Robert Lamm – keyboards, backing vocals
- Lee Loughnane – trumpet, flugelhorn, piccolo trumpet
- James Pankow – trombone, horn arrangements
- Walter Parazaider – woodwinds
- Danny Seraphine – drums, rhythm arrangements
Additional personnel
- David Foster – keyboards, synth bass, rhythm arrangements, additional horn arrangements
- David Paich – synthesizers
- Steve Porcaro – synthesizers, synthesizer programming
- Chris Pinnick – guitars
- Steve Lukather – guitars
- Michael Landau – guitars
- Jeremy Lubbock, Peter Cetera and David Foster – string arrangements on "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"
- Gerard Vinci – concertmaster
- Dave Richardson – lyric assistance on "What Can I Say"
Production
- Produced by David Foster
- Engineered and Mixed by Humberto Gatica
- "Hard To Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" mixed by Bill Schnee
- Mix assistance by Jack Goudie, Lee Loughnane and Walter Parazaider.
- Second Engineers – Britt Bacon, Jeff Borgeson, Steve Cohen, Bobby Gerber, Phil Jamtaas, Don Levy, David Schober, Ernie Sheesely and Chip Strader.
- Recorded at Bill Schnee Studios and Record Plant (Los Angeles, CA); Davlen Sound Studios (Hollywood, CA); Skyline Recording (Topanga, CA).
- Mixed at Studio 55 (Los Angeles, CA).
- Photography by Aaron Rapoport
- Original Art Design and Direction by John Kosh and Ron Larson
Reissue
- A&R/Project Supervisors – Lee Loughnane, Jeff Magid and Mike Engstrom.
- Bonus Selections mixed by David Donnelly and Jeff Magid
- Remastering – David Donnelly
- Editorial Supervision – Cory Frye
- Art Direction and Design – Greg Allen
- Project Assistance – Steve Woolard and Karen LeBlanc
Charts
Weekly charts
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Year-end charts
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Certifications
Region | Certification | Certified units/sales |
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Canada (Music Canada)[33] | Gold | 50,000^ |
Germany (BVMI)[34] | Gold | 250,000^ |
United States (RIAA)[35] | Platinum | 1,000,000^ |
^ Shipments figures based on certification alone. |
References
- ^ Chicago 16 at AllMusic. Retrieved January 12, 2015.
- ^ Grein, Paul (January 15, 1983). "'Firsts' Spark Platinum Albums". Billboard. Vol. 95, no. 2. USA: Billboard Publications, Inc. p. 4. Retrieved July 28, 2017 – via Google Books.
- ^ Grein, Paul (January 5, 1985). "Chart Beat". Billboard. Vol. 97, no. 1. USA: Billboard Publications, Inc. p. 6. Retrieved July 28, 2017 – via Google Books.
- ^ a b c d Seraphine, Danny (2011). Street Player: My Chicago Story. John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ISBN 978-0-470-41683-9.
- ^ a b "Gold & Platinum - RIAA:Chicago:Chicago 16". RIAA. Retrieved July 26, 2017.
- ^ "Chicago". GRAMMY.com. 2017-05-14. Retrieved 2017-07-23.
- ^ a b Grein, Paul (January 26, 1985). "Record of the Year: Chicago Sustaining Comeback Momentum". Billboard. Vol. 97, no. 4. New York, NY: Billboard Publications, Inc. pp. 6, 79. Retrieved July 23, 2017 – via Google Books.
- ^ a b c Van Matre, Lynn (June 13, 1982). "Revitalized Chicago Back On Road Again". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved July 26, 2017.
- ^ Foster, David (2008). Hit Man. Pocket Books. p. 95.
- ^ Ruhlmann, William James (1991). Chicago Group Portrait (Box Set) (Media notes). New York City, NY: Columbia Records. p. 8. Archived from the original (CD booklet archived online) on March 28, 2019. Retrieved July 26, 2017.
- ^ Deriso, NIck (May 14, 2015). "Danny Seraphine and Bill Champlin defend 'Chicago 17'". Something Else!. Retrieved July 27, 2017.
- ^ Cetera, Peter (November 22, 2019). "Finding Your Summit - With Mark Pattison, 126: Peter Cetera". www.markpattisonnfl.com (Internet audio podcast). Interviewed by Mark Pattison. Ketchum, Idaho: Mark Pattison. At about the 36-minute mark. Retrieved July 19, 2020.
- ^ "Billboard Hot 100 Chart for September 11, 1982". Billboard. Retrieved July 27, 2017.
- ^ "Adult Contemporary for August 21, 1982". www.billboard.com. 2 January 2013. Retrieved July 27, 2017.
- ^ "Top 200 Albums for September 18, 1982". Billboard. Retrieved July 28, 2017.
- ^ "Summer Lovers: Detail view of Movies Page". www.afi.com. American Film Institute. Retrieved July 28, 2017.
- ^ DeKNOCK, JAN (1986-08-01). "Cetera At No. 1 With 'Glory Of Love'". tribunedigital-sunsentinel. Archived from the original on 2017-02-16. Retrieved 2017-02-16.
- ^ "Billboard Hot 100 Chart for December 4, 1982". Billboard. Retrieved July 28, 2017.
- ^ "Adult Contemporary for November 12, 1982". www.billboard.com. 2 January 2013. Retrieved July 27, 2017.
- ^ "Billboard Hot 100 Chart for January 29, 1983". Billboard. Retrieved July 27, 2017.
- ^ "The Studio Albums 1979-2008 (Vol. 2) by Chicago on Amazon Music - Amazon.com".
- ^ https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/search/title/remember%20there%27s%20someone%20who%20loves%20you [bare URL]
- ^ https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/writer/69746331/LAMM%20ROBERT%20WILLIAM [bare URL]
- ^ Kent, David (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970–1992 (illustrated ed.). St Ives, N.S.W.: Australian Chart Book. p. 62. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
- ^ "Chicago – 16 – Austriancharts.at". Austriancharts.at (in German). Hung Medien. Retrieved January 15, 2013.
- ^ "50 Albums". RPM. 37 (6). September 25, 1982. ISSN 0033-7064. Archived from the original on March 14, 2016. Retrieved January 15, 2013.
- ^ "Dutchcharts.nl – Chicago – 16". GfK Dutch Charts (in Dutch). Hung Medien. Retrieved January 15, 2013.
- ^ "Album – Chicago, 16". Charts.de (in German). Media Control. Archived from the original on August 12, 2014. Retrieved January 15, 2013.
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- ^ "Top 100 Album-Jahrescharts" (in German). GfK Entertainment Charts. 1982. Archived from the original on October 19, 2021. Retrieved April 4, 2022.
- ^ "Canadian album certifications – Chicago – Chicago 16". Music Canada. Retrieved January 15, 2013.
- ^ "Gold-/Platin-Datenbank (Chicago; '16')" (in German). Bundesverband Musikindustrie. Retrieved January 15, 2013.
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