Talk:Chevrolet Monte Carlo

Seventh Generation?

I find the claims that the '06-up Monte and Impala justify a new generation a bit dubious. What changes in generation for other GM models (or any car, for that matter) have actually shared any sheetmetal whatsoever? GM has freshened many vehicles in similar ways that were not a new generation; the fourth-generation F-Body comes to mind, with some remarkable changes between the 1993-1997 cars and the 1998-2002 cars (beyond simply the change from LT1 to LS1). GM's GMT400 trucks also went through revised front sheetmetal and a heavily redesigned interior through the '90s. Ayocee 14:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

GM has stated that the 06+ is simpily a refreshening and reviews from many automotive publications agree. If this was a new generation GM would explicity state it as such as it has in the past with all of its new generations.

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/los_angeles_2005/0501_chevrolet_impala_monte_carlo/

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0507_2006_chevrolet_monte_carlo_ss_coupe

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z8616/default.aspx

http://research.cars.com/go/crp/research.jsp?makeid=9&mode=&revid=47258&year=2006&acode=&modelid=93&revlogtype=21&crpPage=summary.jsp&myid=&section=reviews&mode=&aff=national

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.233.2.79 (talk) 03:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Agree. I'm making the change. roguegeek (talk·cont) 00:07, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. I haven't seen any source which considers a 2006 Impala to be a freshening of the 2000-05 Impala. They are completely different in every way except wheelbase, including all new body panels. I also worked for a Chevrolet dealer at the time and attended a regional launch event for what were called the "all new" 2006 Impala, Monte Carlo, and HHR. So I directly disagree with the statement that "GM has stated that the 06+ is simpily a refreshening..." I attended many launch events during my two decades with Chevrolet, and none of them were held for a mid-cycle refresh.

Monte Carlo happens to share its rear end body panels from 2005 to 06, but that's about it. The front end appearance, all engines, and the interiors are all totally different. There is nearly universal agreement that 2006 Impala represents a new generation (including here on Impala's wikipedia page), and I would argue that a 2006 Monte Carlo has more in common with a 2006 Impala than it does with a 2005 Monte Carlo. For all of these reasons, 2006-07 Monte Carlos should be recognized as a distinct generation. Tmoenste (talk) 07:22, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Third gen pic

...i dont think that paint was OEM. could we get a slightly more stock looking monte carlo? Skiendog 00:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

NASCAR statement

I recommend this statement stay off the main page, especially off the top summary section, unless someone can prove why contemporary NASCAR vehicles have even the slightest relevance to the production vehicle.

From its inception, the Monte Carlo also has been one of GM's biggest successes on the NASCAR stock car racing circuit. However, in 2007, GM will phase the Monte Carlo out in favor of the next-generation Impala.

The best correlation may be that, for many years now, this NASCAR vehicle is part of GM's marketing of the car. That may deserve mention towards the bottom of the page, but it has no place in the summary.

Nova SS 02:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with that statement. It's not implying that the modern NASCAR and modern Monte have anything in common other than name and vague appearance, and downplaying the Monte-NASCAR connection would be overlooking a fairly large part of the Monte Carlo's history. Ayocee 15:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I might be OK with it if it wasn't in the top summary section. I don't think this marketing shtick is so noteworthy as to define the vehicle. The vehicle is what it is regardless of how it is marketed. Nova SS 21:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Removed. Statement lacks verification. Regardless of if it is true, it is questionable if it belongs on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.241.161.240 (talk) 01:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Fourth Generation?

I'm confused as to why the "4th Generation Monte Carlo" is listed as such. The car rode the same G platform carried over from 1980, with simply an update of its exterior body panels. The wheelbase was even the same.

And while the 2000 Monte Carlo rode the same platform as the 1995-99 model, at least its wheelbase was extended, its interior totally redesigned, and it looked worlds different than its predecessor.

Clean-up pictures

I've added some br/clears and rearranged some pictures so the article doesn't have so much white space anymore (and the pictures are where they make sense, rather than below the infoboxes. (I also added back in half a sentence that got chopped accidently some time ago and never replaced.) 121.208.181.37 03:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree. 1980 and 1981 Monte Carlos should be recognized as the same generation. In addition to the points you made, they also look very similar and share the same engines. The similar Pontiac Grand Prix is also identified as one generation from 1978 to 1987 on its wikipedia page. Tmoenste (talk) 07:36, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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4th Generation inaccuracies to be cleaned up

Several severe inaccuracies have been added to the 4th Gen section over the past several months. We will be making an effort to correct these over the coming weeks. People.. before you go making changes, please check your facts.. and if you're not sure.. please ask over at MonteCarloSS.com (4th Generation specific).

Z65_Paul MonteCarloSS.com Admin Z65 Paul (talk) 07:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I just have to say that, as to the stated power output of the 350 V8 available in the Mexican SS equipped with the 350 - that number WAY too optimistic given the technology of the time. Either that 265 HP number is gross horsepower rather than SAE Net, or someone's daydreaming. I'd imagine that the guesstimate of 190 HP as stated in the second link "Additional Information about the Mexican SS" is closer to reality.

--King V (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2009 (UTC) Check the power rating for the 1988 SS. It was listed as "480 HP". It's off by about 300. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.97.24 (talk) 04:02, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

"personal luxury coupes"

Regarding a phrase in the first paragraph: Is there a difference between a "personal luxury coupe" and "luxury coupe"? Sounds like marketing-speak to me, however I suppose it's possibly a term in use by people who are not in the business of selling junk to people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.48.64.41 (talk) 13:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

6 cyl 3800 engine

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SAE net vs Gross Hp - 1971-72

I corrected the hp figure for the 1971 and 1972 Monte Carlo. 1971 is the only year that Chevrolet listed both gross and net figures. There were never any gross figures listed in 1972. Additionally, the article stated that the 1972 engines were unchanged from 1971 (in terms of power) and only the rating changed. This is true for the 350 engines, but not the 402 or the 454 engines. The 402 was rated at 260 net hp in 1971 vs 240 in 1972. The 454 was rated at 285 net hp in 1971 vs 270 in 1972. All this figures are listed in both the 1971 and 1972 Monte Carlo brochures as well as other reputable auto publications.

Caprice 96 (talk) 16:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

"Raised Eyebrows"

This phrase strikes me as being slightly unprofessional and has no citation as being a reference —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.163.248 (talk) 18:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

How about "gained some ponies?" Who writes this shit? 108.249.235.44 (talk) 06:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

The monte carlo was around well before the 70's they had monte carlo models dating back to the 50's

you're all mistaken —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.55.202 (talk) 03:17, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

This statment is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.238.139.239 (talk) 19:11, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

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Convertibles category

Why is this in the convertibles category when there are no Monte Carlo convertibles? Lukeno94 (talk) 21:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

After 10 months without a reply to this, I've removed it from the convertibles category. Just because there was a plan to release a Monte Carlo convertible does not mean that it should be in this category, seeing as there wasn't a production convertible - or even a prototype beyond the drawing board. Lukeno94 (talk) 14:25, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

7th Gen

As discussed earlier - there was NO 7th generation Monte Carlo - it was simply a "Refreshed 6th Gen." I made the change in the article and noted it as a "refreshed version." Chevy has done this before with the Camaro if I recall correctly (2nd gen).

Perhaps it should be added to the article that on several forums they commonly refer to the 06-07 years as a 7th gen (or 6.5 on others) to avoid confusion because most parts cannot be swapped between the 2 different 6th styles. Just to avoid this confusion.

Mogwog (talk) 12:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Removing Camaro as Successor

I removed the Camaro as the successor, considering the Monte Carlo was a personal coupe and the Camaro is a muscle car.--Bookster451 (talk) 02:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Monte Carlo Generations

Hey all. Whoever has gone in recently and edited the page and lumped the first 4 gens together into 2, the page info is now incorrect. The previous page version was correct. It should be Gen 1: 1970-72, Gen 2: 1973-77, Gen 3: 1978-80, Gen 4: 1981-88, Gen 5: 1995-99, and Gen 6: 2000-2005. Despite the fact that several gens were just body changes on existing chassis, they are designated this way by both GM and the Monte Carlo car clubs. Thanks much. Bdoughnut (talk) 07:48, 15 September 2018 (UTC) Bdoughnut

Fixed It looks to have been done by an unregistered user who left infoboxes everywhere. While this page might be in a little need of attention; things don't need to be hacked apart. --SteveCof00 (talk) 10:49, 15 September 2018 (UTC)