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I created an article for Los Pollos Hermanos, since there's been real-life LPH restaurants as well.--Prisencolin (talk)
Inadequate explanation of title
According to Gilligan, the title is a Southern colloquialism meaning "to raise hell".
The phrase "breaking bad" apparently cannot mean "to raise hell" since it is the wrong part of speech. Additionally, Wiktionary defines the root phrase "break bad" as follows:
1. (colloquial, of an event or of one's fortunes) To go wrong; to go downhill.
2. (colloquial, especially Southern US and Midwestern US, of a person) To go bad; to turn toward immorality or crime.
This is substantially different from the idea of "raising hell" anyway.
Hopefully someone who is familiar with this expression can look at this. 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:1AD:5274:51ED:10BC (talk) 20:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- The actual meaning shouldn't matter as Gilligan's interpretation is all that counts. If he thinks it means "to raise hell" and that's why he chose it for the show then that's just his misunderstaning. Perhaps a line could be added to say that this isn't the actual meaning of to break bad? FishandChipper 🐟🍟 09:07, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Misunderstanding the meaning of an expression is one thing; defining it in a grammatically impossible manner is a different level of error. Perhaps he thought it meant "raising hell"? 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9 (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nope, we have to go with what Gilligan said, even if he is grammatically wrong. Masem (t) 00:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Misunderstanding the meaning of an expression is one thing; defining it in a grammatically impossible manner is a different level of error. Perhaps he thought it meant "raising hell"? 2A00:23C8:7B09:FA01:F9D1:D8AF:1D14:8DE9 (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Changes From Was to Is
Whomever decided to arbitrarily remove the dates (years of production) and also (apparently), decided to change description of past television shows from was to is without discussion and with some "secret or hidden" instructions not to change it back has literally sent searches away from Wikipedia and to other websites for searches to see if television shows are still in production. This has without a doubt been done without discussion within the PUBLIC Wikipedia community. So before changing it back, explain why you are doing so. I have come across dozens of these changes without any given reason except a coded invisible thing stating "do not change to was" 2600:1700:8A90:ECF0:C12B:82C:21EF:285E (talk) 06:02, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Is" is correct and always has been. Please read WP:TVNOW. TV shows don't stop being a TV show just because they are complete; they still exist. You wouldn't refer to a film, novel, comic book, album, or any other piece of fiction or media as "was" once it's complete, so you wouldn't a TV series either. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Unless all versions of the show have been destroyed and it was impossible to view it further, we treat all TV shows as existing in the present tense, across WP. See MOS:TENSE --Masem (t) 12:08, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Is this a "neo western"?
Ninety percent of this is Walter White at school, Walter White at home, Walter White drives his car somewhere. It hardly seems to be a "neo western" as in a latter-day version of Shane or Fistful of Dollars. Mains Olsen (talk) 10:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you really watched the show. Those are pretty hyperbolic assertions of the show. You need to present a much more detailed analysis and supply much more actual evidence that contradicts the show's label as a "neo-western". Assertions like "Ninety percent of this..." isn't reliable information to go by in changing a key piece of the article's information. Provide more evidence and specificity. 168.26.153.205 (talk) 17:19, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Pages for Todd and Lydia?
Every other main character from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul has their own dedicated Wikipedia page, other than Todd Alquist and Lydia Rodarte-Quayle. Given that they have main cast billing like everyone else who has a page and are decently important to the story's developments, I think they should have pages of their own. That being said, I don't want to go and make one without consulting other Wikipedians first. 109.234.179.37 (talk) 19:25, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- We need significant development and/or reception jnformation about them...just have starring positions doesn't assure that. Masem (t) 20:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 02:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Coming back to this after 9 years.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is there any information on the casting process for the other actors available?
- Hank, in recovery, tracks Gale's death to Gus and the drug trade, so he plans to kill Hank Who is "he" in this sentence in the Season 4 recap?
- a remote turret and frees Jesse How does a turret kill anyone? Be more specific
- 206 TV experts? critics
- Needs info on syndication and home media releases
- Has the music used in the show been recognized in any way? How does it fit in thematically?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm failing this review because you have made no significant contributions to the article and have not notified the main contributors of the nomination so they could rectify any problems.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Done Did copyediting to fix bullet points #2 and #3. signed, Willondon (talk) 22:31, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Good to see. If you can address the remaining issues, feel free to ping me after you nominate it and I'll be quicker to get the review started.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:33, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Add Tess Harper to "Recurring Characters"
Actress Tess Harper played Diane Pinkman, Jesse's mother, per Wikipedia page. --Threadbareparson (talk) 07:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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