User talk:Ancheta Wis

Welcome. --Ancheta Wis (talk) 22:52, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).

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Hi Ancheta Wis. I couldn't help but notice that you blocked User:147.236.228.132, User talk:2607:FEA8:4B67:4E00:8C97:A0F9:35FF:31F1 (after they undid an edit of yours?), User:152.32.99.27, and User:Bon Joe vie all without warning, citing NOTHERE. I then saw that you blocked User:Kent Dominic with a reason of "cooling off time". I'm curious if you can you tell me the answers the following to the questions:

1. When is it ever appropriate to block an editor without warning?
2. What is the difference between NOTHERE and vandalism?
3. When it is ever appropriate to make a "cool down" block? -Fastily 06:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Good questions: NOTHERE means making edits for other-than-improving an article. However, a hasty skip-through (in the sense of a drive-by edit) need not be vandalism. --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 06:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Interesting. Can you elaborate? And are you going to answer Q1 and Q3? -Fastily 06:54, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Example for Q1: the IP knows programming, but the name they attempted to add does not show up in the Haskell talk sites.

Q3:Some users use speedy operations (such as in the deletion discussions) and then reverse course when they learn from my replies. (Loose cannons) --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 07:07, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the edits to Mathematics: My citation is H.S. Wall Creative Mathematics "A proof consists of a succession of statements, each of which leads to the next". The substitution of "entails" is indirect, compared to the more direct "consists of". --Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 07:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

This is going to sound harsh, but I mean this in the nicest way possible. Please resign adminship at BN. Each one of your responses to my questions is catastrophically wrong and neither represents nor reflects current practices/policies/guidelines. I've reviewed your block history and it looks like you have been making bad blocks for years. I know you've done great work for us in the past, but it's time to hang up the tools. Please do the right thing and resign. If you don't, I'll have no choice but to escalate this to ANI and possibly ArbCom. Thanks, Fastily 08:39, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Not to rehash nearly forgotten bygones, but it remains my understanding that (1) “Administrators must not block users with whom they are engaged in a content dispute; instead, they should report the problem to other administrators” and (2) a “cooling off time... intended solely to ‘cool down’ an angry user” is out of bounds. The block I endured for those reasons is small peanuts, yet the lack of accountability still chafes. A simple "my bad, sorry" from Ancheta (re the rationale for the block and administrative involvement in the pertinent editing dispute) would have kept me from weighing in here, but if my experience reflects a pattern of administrative irregularity, something needs to be done. Kent Dominic·(talk) 13:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kent Dominic: Ancheta Wis has resigned their tools. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh: Where is that documented? Kent Dominic·(talk) 01:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Kent Dominic: You can see here or here. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Ancheta Wis: Solely re the substance of the pertinent edit to Mathematics: I downloaded H.S. Wall's Creative Mathematics pdf to check the quote you attributed to that source. The quote is nowhere to be found in the corpus of that pdf. I stand by [my original substitution] of "entails" (i.e., requires or necessarily involves) for "consists of" as explained in the corresponding edit summary. I'm surprised Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) never had a kick at the polysemic consists of cat. Kent Dominic·(talk) 01:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

See p.xii of Creative Mathematics (the AMS .pdf version). In it, H.S.Wall says:

A proof of a theorem consists of a suitable succession of statements each of which is completely justified. It has been my experience that there will be about as many different proofs of certain theorems as there are students who have proved them in my classes. I would not say that one of these proofs is better than another. Different people think in different ways and all should be encouraged. It is thus that new ideas are born!

You can see how Professor H.S.Wall lets his students each unearth their own path to a proof of the theorem under study, without their having to look up the proof in the work of other mathematicians. -- Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 09:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)