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a very bad article

People will misunderstand what is laicity reading this article. Laicity and securalism are not the same. Both are french words : laïcité and sécularisme with different meanings. Laicity (laityness) is about the people. Secularism is about the state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:224:DA90:FDD4:A72E:939:DDD7 (talk) 12:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

C'est non seulement un très mauvais article mais de plus, il ne constitue en rien la traduction de l'article français correspondant. La laïcité protège la liberté de conscience (croire ou ne pas croire) et n'est ni synonyme de sécularisme, ni d'athéisme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.234.24.245 (talk) 09:49, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

Is laicite derived from laa - ik in Arabic?

From the Greek laikos (the people). The English lay is surely related.

PACS

Christine Boutin, who openly argued on religious grounds against homosexual domestic partnerships (PACS)

This sentence is wrong: the PACS is not only for homosexuals, but also for heterosexuals. This should be made clear. 81.57.225.31 10:38, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The sentence is right. She argued on religious grounds against homosexual relationships and their acknowledgement in the gender-neutral PACS. David.Monniaux 12:35, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

picture

is a good thing. Deal with it however you may please.

Broadcasting of religious sermons on public TV

The cited sentence is factually wrong :

"The simultaneous broadcasting of the traditional Protestant and Catholic Lent sermons (operating since 1946) has been interrupted. Earlier the broadcasting of the Russian Orthodox Christmas night liturgy was similarly stopped on 6/7 January."

In 2024, all larger religions as well free-thinkers (masons) have their time slot every sunday morning.

It is of course crazy that the anti-religious free-masons get their time slot on public TV when they vigorously protest when religious organizations want to get a meeting room in a French town hall. Ft (talk) 19:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[Image:Le Rire - Séparation de l'Eglise et de l'Etat, 1905.gif]] is a good thing. Deal with it however you may please.
-== Requested move 28 February 2020 ==
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-:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.''
-'''Moved as proposed'''. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 20:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
-[[:Laïcité]] → {{no redirect|Secularism in France}} – The article is clearly about secularism in France, as pointed by several users above. The French word is useless for that matter per [[WP:USEENGLISH]]. The article should be linked to [[w:fr:Laïcité en France|Laïcité en France]]. [[User:Paris91|Paris91]] ([[User talk:Paris91|talk]]) 23:28, 28 February 2020 (UTC)<small>—'''''Relisted.'''''&nbsp;– [[User:Ammarpad|Ammarpad]] ([[User talk:Ammarpad|talk]]) 05:57, 11 March 2020 (UTC)</small>
-{{wikt|laicity}}
-*'''Support'''. It's already transwiki'd to [[:fr:Laïcité en France]]. Redirect {{-r|Laicity}} ({{ety|fr|laïcité}}) already targets [[Secularism]], so after the move it might make sense to retarget the redirect {{-r|Laïcité}} similarly, turn it into a soft redirect to Wiktionary, or even delete it, per [[WP:RFOREIGN]]: secularism is not peculiar to France or French. [[Special:Contributions/94.21.238.148|94.21.238.148]] ([[User talk:94.21.238.148|talk]]) 07:37, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
-*'''Support''' per nom.--[[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 13:31, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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 == Broadcasting of religious sermons on public TV ==