Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Rules for Boats

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The result was delete. —Kurykh 03:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

New Rules for Boats

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Definitely not notable per WP:MUSIC, any (vague) claims to notability in this article are by association only. Would be next to impossible to find reliable sources for much more than their existence. Orderinchaos 14:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Orderinchaos 14:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. Would two EP's on a notable label be enough to satisfy criterion #5 of WP:MUSIC, or would they have to have two full length albums? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 15:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Not clear that this is a notable label - MGM is just a distribution company, not a label (I personally know bands who put out stuff through them). Orderinchaos 15:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete If it fails WP:MUSIC what the bloody hell doesnt it fail. Might add this to my personal BJAODN page. If there were an essay called "Musiccruft" this would definately be a reference. Nothing to see here folks. Twenty Years 15:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. The "MGM Distribution" thing made me take a second look, then I realized it wasn't that MGM. Realkyhick 17:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete for now - though I'm kind of torn. The label has several bands that appear to have won or been nominated for regional awards, and has itself been nominated, so I would tend to consider it at least slightly notable - but EPs don't really count for WP:MUSIC. The band's been nominated for regional awards too, but hasn't won (that I can see). They claim touring extensively, but again, I can't find any good proof of that. If they develop the way they look like they are, then maybe after the first album comes out an article would be justified. Tony Fox (arf!) review? 20:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Per ors, as not meeting WP:MUSIC. It does not look like the band has charted nationally or internationally, so I don't think it hits the mark. Thewinchester ^(talk) 22:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Retain the band is one of the newly emerging bands from Western Australia and have recieved radio airplay on Triple J and other community radio stations accross Australia. Dan arndt 02:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment do JJJ publish a play list that you could cite?Garrie 05:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Wikipedia's rules for inclusion clearly state that independent coverage by a reliable source is a necessary precondition for having an article. Releasing an EP is not grounds for having an article about the band per WP:ILIKEIT, especially when no reliable sources appear to be available. All I can find on Factiva are ads in fairly small publications. Zivko85 05:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, maybe if they'd won some WAMI awards I'd be more sympathetic, but I don't see how they pass WP:MUSIC. Incidentally, I don't see airplay on JJJ as being a good indicator of notability - there are plenty of NN Australian bands that get an occasional spin on there. Lankiveil 13:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC).

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.