Wikipedia:Requested moves

Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straight-forward or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories. The move should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial. For simple uncontroversial moves follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead.

Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be actioned if there is a rough consensus (60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator.

• If you want to merge two articles please make a request at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles instead of here.
• This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.

Instructions

What to do on the talk page

• Add a note to the talk page of the article you wish to move (not the article itself) using the {{move}} template. This template should be inserted at the top of the page using the following text:

{{move|new name}}

replacing the words "new name" with the name of the destination page to where you wish to move the article.

If there is more than one possible name you may wish to use {{moveoptions}} instead. For this add the following text:

{{moveoptions}}

• To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add a section. See the section below in Additional notes for an example.

What to do on this Requested moves page

To aid the administrators, add a line with the days date on it directly under the heading of the Notices subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.

===[[date]] [[year]]===

Requests added to "Requested move" a page should have the following format:

For a single page move to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line:

* [[Talk:page to be moved]] – [[page to be moved]] → [[new name]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~

For more complicated requests see the section lower down this page on #Multiple page moves. See also, the section lower down this page on #Relevant policies and guidelines.

Notices

Please add new notices to the top of this section.

June 9 2005

• Category talk:Finnish Film Directors - Category:Finnish Film Directors → Category:Finnish film directors - Naming convention (please see other categories in Category:Film directors by nationality). Paulo Oliveira 08:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Talk:Valencian - Valencian - Talk:Valencian dialect - Valencian dialect → Valencian language - "language" article - 68.23.97.102 00:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • This is a dialect that some for political reasons say is a totally separate language. To stop the warring, we came to a consensus to just call the article Valencian. Listing it here is unhelpful. — Chameleon 08:19, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 8 2005

• Talk:Lewis_Wickes_Hine — Lewis Wickes Hine → Lewis Hine - He is more known without the middle name. --User:Hottentot
• Talk:Prime Minister of the Government of Spain – Prime Minister of the Government of Spain → Prime Minister of Spain – Prime Minister of Spain is a more likely target for searching and it's in line with similar governmental people in other countries (also, most pages link to Prime Minister of Spain). — Talrias (t | e | c) 16:50, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Talk:Bellshill, North Lanarkshire – Bellshill, North Lanarkshire → Bellshill – Bellshill was a disambig page, now moved to Bellshill (disambiguation). Bellshill, North Lanarkshire is by far the larger and most notable place. — Vclaw 14:56, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• École Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications de Paris - École Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications - The official name does not include "de Paris", therefore, redirection and article should be switched (I didn't start any talk, see french article or official website). Btw, "Télécom Paris" is just a 'commercial' name, not the official one. Momow 18:06, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 7 2005

• Talk:Nashville Tornadoes of 1998 – Nashville Tornadoes of 1998 → Nashville Tornado of 1998 – The convention on Wikipedia seems to be to refer to tornado events in the singular even if more than one actual tornado was involved. Also note that the singular version of this title gets far more hits on Google than the plural version (345 vs 5). The capitalization of Tornado should be retained as it seems to be a universal convention to capitalize the names of tornado events (but not necessarily other types of disasters). Also see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals). — Kaldari 23:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Dublin Corporation - Dublin Corporation → Dublin City Council - The latter is the organisation's current name. --Ryano 21:48, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Quechua – Quechua → Quechua language – Standard Wikipedia naming scheme — Eliot 02:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Sylvia Saint - Sylvia Saint → Talk:Silvia Saint - Silvia Saint. Reason: Silvia is the correct spelling of the name; Sylvia is just a different, though incorrect, spelling. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. 00:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 6 2005

• Talk:Prodana nevesta – Prodana nevesta → The Bartered Bride – Talk:The Bartered Bride; should be moved back the way it was prior to my uninformed move on March 30, in line with Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera#Operas: original vs English translation --BaronLarf 21:14, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

I totally support this move. --DrG 23:36, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)

• Nick Dyer-Whithefordshould be moved because of a careless spelling error in the iriginal article. Move to correct name Nick Dyer-Witheford--67.70.23.58 20:52, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Talk:Great train wreck of 1918 – Great train wreck of 1918 → Great Train Wreck of 1918 – {Page move to comply with Wikipedia naming conventions: namely, caps for proper nouns} — Splintercellguy 18:47, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Although I am unsure as to whether the names of rail disasters are considered proper nouns, the convention on Wikipedia seems to be to keep them lowercase. See List of rail accidents for numerous examples. Convention on the web in general seems to be divided. Can anyone shed more light on whether or not this should be capitalized? Kaldari 19:59, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Dr. Light – Dr. Light → Doctor Light – In line with common Wikipedia style — SoM 17:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Sri Aurobindo Ghose stub unnecessary, there is already a Sri Aurobindo page M Alan Kazlev 13:05, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Constitution of 1812 – Constitution of 1812 → Spanish Constitution of 1812 – As it is it's impossible to tell what the page is about unless you read it. All other constitution pages have the state in the title (EG. U.S. Constitution, 19xx Soviet Constitution, Tennessee State Constitution, etc.) — 68.39.174.150 12:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Tongji – Tongji → Tongji University – Duplicate article, the title should be Tongji University as there are other areas in Shanghai with the name Tongji. -- Sir Jimmy 05:21, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Elephant in the corner – Elephant in the corner → Elephant in the room – Completed merge, but should move to "room" title to preserve longer edit history — Quuxplusone 17:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 5 2005

• Talk:Meteor (mobile) – Meteor (mobile) → Meteor Mobile Communications – As a newbie, I created the Meteor (mobile) article, and later redirected the Meteor Mobile Communications stub to it. Now I realise that probably wasn't the best idea - the company is called Meteor Mobile Communications, for instance. --Kiand 01:42, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Colorado River (US) – Colorado River (US) → Colorado River – The river flows through Mexico as well as through the USA, and it is not the only river with that name in the USA (see Colorado River (Texas)). Since it is by far the largest of all the rivers with that name, it is probably best to have it at Colorado River and move the disambig page to Colorado River (diambiguation). Chl 00:57, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:microtubule associated protein – microtubule associated protein → microtubule-associated protein – This is the correct spelling — Sampo Tiensuu 22:28, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• talk: Saul Steinberg (artist) – Saul Steinberg (artist) → Saul Steinberg – Saul Steinberg used to be a dab page that I moved to Saul Steinberg (disambiguation), Saul Steinberg the artist is the important person and should "own" the name on Wikipedia (even if the page is only a stub for the time being) – RodC 17:45, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• talk: Justice of the Peace – Justice of the Peace → justice of the peace – correct defective cut & paste move made from correct lowercase to bad capitalization. Please merge the histories!   –radiojon 02:38, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

June 4 2005

• Talk:Integral Yoga – Integral Yoga → Integral yoga – standardize naming convention. I will merge any mat'l from Integral yoga that is not already duplicated at Integral Yoga. --goethean ॐ 17:44, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Two Treatises of Civil Government – Two Treatises of Civil Government → Two Treatises of Government – Of Civil Government is the title of the Second Treatise; the work as a whole is called Two Treatises of Government. -User:RJC my talk

• I would like to move Standards Electronic Automatic Computer to Standards Eastern Automatic Computer, but that title already exists as a redirect page. I checked several sources, and almost all of them say "Eastern" instead of "Electronic". I put a notice about the proposed move on the discussion page, but no one has responded. If that is done, I will fix the links to that page and change the relevant line in the article. Thank you. --Bubba73 03:57, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• talk: Mexican jumping beans – Mexican jumping beans → Mexican jumping bean – Not sure why this happened, but there is a stub at the history page for the singular and the article is at the plural.   –radiojon 02:42, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)

• Talk:Gaspar Poussin – Gaspar Poussin → Gaspard Dughet – This is simply the name most commonly used for that painter. Details are on the talk page. There is no history to preserve on the target page which may be safely deleted. The reason I didn't list it on RfD because I found the wording there a tad confusing and would rather err on the side of caution. — Rl 08:48, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• talk:Veszprém County – Veszprém County → Veszprém (county) – Format for counties of Hungary with ambiguous names is X (county), see discussion on Talk:Counties of Hungary. Veszprém (county) is a redirect to Veszprém County now, but I can't move it. Markussep 14:17, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Talk:Albert Schatz (law) - Albert Schatz (law) → Albert Schatz (scientist) - Article created by new-Wiki user, I cleaned it up, but it needs moving to the right place. Kel-nage 20:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Voting time extended

Voting on the following move requests have been extended to allow for more votes. Please visit them and post your opinion.

Extended until 10 June 2005

• Talk:Wojsko Polskie – Wojsko Polskie → Polish Army (other names proposed)

Procedure for admins

It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).

Major history

There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:

1. The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined here. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (e.g. duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one.
2. Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself). This process also works where edit histories cannot be merged because edit history compression prevents one page being deleted.
3. Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)

Minor history

A minor history on the other hand contains no information, e.g. the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.

Tidying up

Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.

When you remove an entry from this page (whether the move was accepted ot rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected.

It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.

Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.

Blocked history mergers

If block compression stops the required merge of a copy/paste move then move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article.

This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done when the issue is resolved.

Additional notes

A guide for a Requested move section on a talk page

To make it easy for the administrator to see if there is a consensus for a move, if a section discussing the move does not already exist on the talk page of the article to be moved, then please add the following or something similar to the bottom of the page (you can copy and paste this template over):

==Requested move==
*  the reasons for move copied from [[WP:RM]] 
::''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one sentence explanation and sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''    
===Discussion===
::''Add any additional comments'' 

If an section called "Requested move" alreay exists on the talk page then expand the title to:

==Requested move to [[NEW NAME]]== <!-- insert new page name! --> 

Multiple page moves

For a single page moves with more than one option for the destiniation name:

• Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~

For block moves:

• Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
  • ...
  • page to be moved n to target page n
  • {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

• Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
  • The Levellers to Levellers
  • the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~

Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:

• Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
  • Second world to Second World and
  • Third world to Third World
  • This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~

Relevant policies and guidelines

PLEASE NOTE:

• Many moves can be accomplished by a registered user without administrator assistance by using the "Move this page" button.
• Requested moves is not the proper place to request renaming images or categories.
  • To rename a category see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion:How to use this page point 5.
  • To rename an image. re-upload the image with the name you want, change the links on the relevant pages then delete the old one with a request to Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion.
  • It is also possible to ask an administrator to intervene directly see Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention (and possibly Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard for troublesome cases).

In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:

• Wikipedia:Naming conventions
• Wikipedia:Proper names
• Wikipedia:Manual of Style
• Wikipedia:Disambiguation
• Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
• Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers
  • If a river page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Requested moves
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Numbers
  • If a number page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#Requested moves