Talk:Noob Saibot

Noob Saibot's Appearance is incorrect

Noob saibot did not first appear in MK4 but in the Mortal Kombat Trilogy.

Erm, it doesn't say that anywhere in the article. Besides, his first appearance was MKII.Virogtheconq 17:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Merged with Elder Sub-Zero's information

As the viewer can see, this article has been updated with all information pertaining to his life as Sub-Zero. This has been done in an effort to reduce the size of the main Sub-Zero article, as well to compile all relevent data about the character into one article, as it should be. Shadaloo 08:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

• Just a suggestion, but perhaps in the infobox we could separate some of the sections (I was thinking Appearances and Portrayers) into Sub-Zero and Noob subsections, since it's not clearly marked elsewhere which appeared in what game/production. Virogtheconq 21:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I've been a mortal kombat fan a long time. When and where did he become noob saibot? Was this the cartoon series? perhaps a later video game series? For what I knew, sub-zero was just subzero, and noob-saibot was just noob saibot. There was no name carry-over or some other thing like that. I grew up during the mortal kombat 1, 2, 3, and cartoon age. So, I'm assuming this was in the new games? I don't get what's going on in this article. - User: Cyberman

It was part of the storyline to MK: Deception. I'll take a look at the article and see if it can't be made a little more clear from the outset. Virogtheconq 16:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I can see why Wikipedia does not condone the in-universe format. Unless you're a big Mortal Kombat fan who follows each new installment religiously, there's no way of knowing how hell did the Old Sub-Zero became Noob Saibot. In the real world, the character was Noob Saibot first and then revealed to be the Old Sub-Zero second, not the other way around. The Sub-Zero should cover both Sub-Zeros, not just the current one. Jonny2x4 02:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The older Sub-Zero died and became Noob Saibot, since they are technically the same person they are both listed in the article, and thats how it should be BassxForte 06:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Also note that the fact that the older Sub-Zero and Noob Saibot are the same person explains quite a few things, No.1, why Noob wasn't present in Mytholgies, Noob wasn't actually created since he was srill Sub-Zero, No.2, the presence of the Freeze and Shatter fatality in MK4, there's prob a few others i'm not mwntioning here as well. BassxForte 20:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

No. You're wrong. Noob Saibot was a character introduced in Mortal Kombat II who was revealed to be original Sub Zero in Mortal Kombat Deception. THAT's the perspective the article should take. A real world one, not an in-universe. Jonny2x4 21:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

MK4/Gold Noob Saibot

While browsing some MK4 codes, I came across a guide that said that one of Noob Saibots fatalities was Deep Freeze. No button combonation was given, and therefore I am skeptical. Have you ever seen this happen or done the fatality because if you have, it should be noted in this page. This is because that would have been a hint he was the original Sub Zero way earlier than everybody thinks. --DragonMaster 02:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that fatality is complete b.s. --Buzda

-->Lol. Yeah, most likely. However, if it did exist, then it was very well hidden. --DragonMaster 02:38, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Actually, you can do it by entering the Fatality 1 (or Fatality 2, for a differeent one) in the hidden menu.

I use the PC version and Noob uses Reiko's fatalities(at leasst in my copy of the game). But I have sen the Deep Freeze fatality with Noob Saibot on YouTube. I don't have the link, though. Dmr2hn1 17:40 07.05.2007

3rd Style

How do you use his Ninja Stars in Deception

Either through a special move or in his finishing moves. Shuriken is not a fighting style in Deception. The S 02:21, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Fan Communication

i am a great great fan of noob saibot.He is one of my fav warriors in MK.I like his fighting skill man,he is unmarched.the character name of all the characters is the best.Anybody who is also interested with noob man should definately contact me,we discuss this great man.i luv him. Hernegie@yahoo.com

I'm afraid that this is NOT a forum, it's a Wikipedia discussion article. So, go type that in a fanpage or something. Axe995 23:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Sub-Zero's name

Ed Boon himself has confirmed the name of both Sub-Zero's to be Tsui, and Yong Park. The novel was compiled of ideas from Ed Boon himself, and even though the name Tsui Yong Park appear to be the name of Scorpion and his son in the novel, that was the intended name of the two Sub-Zero's. This will be one of the unlockable features in Mortal Kombat: Armageddon's version of the Krypt where Ed Boon will place the real names of the two brothers. Will be contacting someone to send actual proof of this and it will come from the "man" and be posted here ASAP.

• Wikipedia is a compendium of what IS, not what will be. And I ask for proof of this alleged statement. Date, time, and location. The MK canon goes by what is stated in the games, and there has been no mention of that name in any of them so far. Shadaloo 16:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

• Very well. I look forward to seeing official information from an official source. In the possible eventuality of fraudulent E-mail accounts, I will verify with Midway offices. Shadaloo 16:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

That is fine.

No, Mortal Kombat Armageddon Krypt does NOT have such an information. Dmr2hn1 17:42 07.05.2007

Problems With Site

Neither one of you can be conisdered 100% correct. How does Shadaloo know that Noob Saibot doesn't have a real name? I am sure he does but no one knows it yet. And how does the other person know that his name could be Tsui Park? The problem with Wikipedia is that anyone can contribute any info they may know, and a lot of the times and possibly in this case, the information given is not 100% correct. I don't believe either one of you on this subject at all. There is a much better site to get info on MK characters. Thank You.

Ok. And as soon as you tell us what that site is, I'll be sure to go there. And I never said he did not have a real name. My statement is that his name has not yet been officially revealed in a game, and until it is, it is unknown. That's a fact. Shadaloo 06:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Fightin styles

What are the sources of Noob Saibot's fighting styles? --Mista-X 20:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Umm... the games themselves. Where else would they come from? The S 01:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Possibly the manuals, or some other documentation or official statement / source from Midway? --Mista-X 08:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Years

Why does it say that MK1 is set in 1991? The years the games come out aren't the years the games are based. That would mean that Deception is two years after Deadly Alliance. - The 4th Snake

Only the first game was set in the same time. The second game was almost immediately after that. Then some time later was the third series, blah, blah, blah... So, in other words, just because MK1 was set in 1991, it doesn't mean that all games were set in the years they were released. -SaturnYoshi ^{THE VOICES} 01:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, MKD can be two years after the beginning of MKDA. At least, there is a palace constructed, a lot of warriors slain for their souls to be placed in the soldiers, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmr2hn1 (talk • contribs) 14:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

Alignment

I'm curious, why does his bio state that he is evil, he's not, he's neutral. This is obvious because of the fact that he not only fought for evil men, he also betrayed them for his own benefit, that fits a description of a neutral personality in my opinion. If being a good guy brought Noob power, he'd be a good guy, cause that's what he does, he seeks power, and will do anything to get it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.115.11.147 (talk • contribs)

Ashrah's trading card says "...she must slay powerful evil such as Noob Saibot..." [1]. Also, the official MK:D website mentions that the Noob-Smoke team are evil [2]. A trading card wasn't made for Noob, but Smoke's card says that he is good [3]. So, you'd figure that one of them would have to be evil. RobWill80 01:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, Mortal Kombat: Tournament Edition states quite clearly, specifically, and bluntly that his alignment evil. I can't directly link to it, but you can copy+paste this link for verification if you want to check: http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/mortal_kombat_tournament_edition_a.txt MarphyBlack 01:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I see where you guys are coming from, it's true, Noob Saibot is evil, but so is Scorpion, Scorpion was just in a position where siding with the good guys benefited more. They both have the same taint on their souls if I'm not mistaken. It's a sircumstancial thing really, his alignment is fine as it is now, but don't deny the possibility of him shifting alignment if Raiden or Lui Kang could offer him enough power that he could use to gain control of all of the realms.

He was neutral as Sub-Zero, he's evil know, although the text after the battle with Noob Saibot in Armageddon's konquest mode implies that he could possibly turn away from evil. BassxForte 01:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Name

Please people, his name is "Noob" not "N00b", someone went through the entire friggen' article and changed all "noob"s to "n00b"s, i've changed most of them, his first name was meant to be "Boon" spelled backwords, the fact it is the same as internet term was coincidential, as I said i've changed most of the names back to the correct version, if any more are there plese change them for me. BassxForte 21:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. :) RobWill80 21:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I just realized, I could have just used the "history" button on the top of this page to take care of this entire problem with a click... *shrugs* ah well. I also notice that person changed all "Neatherrealm"s to "N00brealm"s. BassxForte 03:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I went through the pages history section, the one who did it is IP address 68.120.85.176 who has constantly vandilized pages, although the IP address may have changed, so I can't know if that was the real vandal *sigh*. BassxForte 03:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

He is not Sub-Zero

Sub-Zero and Noob Saibot are seperate charecters in MK2 and MK 3 ultimate.Where are the sources for them being the same person? Even in trilogy they are 2 seperate charecters.-Vmrgrsergr 04:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

See Mortal Kombat: Deception, Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. MarphyBlack 05:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Let's not forget that the Sub-Zero in all MK games besides MK1 and Mythologies is Noob's younger brother, also note that the extra Sub-Zero in MKT and UMK3 is non-canon. BassxForte 22:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 00:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Remove some Sub-Zero information

Some of the Sub-Zero info should be removed. Once it's established that Noob is the former Sub-Zero, that should be enough. No need to have Sub-Zero's move list in another character's page. Sub-Zero has his own page, this one should focus on Noob Saibot. 66.167.147.212 09:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

I know that if you freeze noob saibot in mortal kombat II, the frozen graphic is of kano! I just thought that was interesting...

Please sign your posts and... since I don't own MKII i'll need a screenshot, give me a screenshot and i'll add it in the article. BassxForte 05:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)