Talk:Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen

Fashion Line

The article mentions that the clothing line "Elizabeth & James" is named after their siblings. The article mentions a sister Elizabeth but not brother James (only Trent and Jake). Am I missing something or is that someone's middle name? It should probably be clarified if possible.

"Trent" goes by his middle name, his real name is James —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.194.113.10 (talk) 20:08:34, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Scientology

They are widely reported to be Scientologists. Surely some mention of their cult involvment should be made. simonthebold 15:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

This is untrue. Both were raised Christian, though what sect is undetermined (thought to be Episcopalian, as their high school, Campbell Hall, was episcopalian run, but also rumored to be Catholic.) Neither have shown any evidence of prescribing to any "pop" religious movement, and neither have ever discussed their religion or political beliefs publicly, and especially not in any way that would insinuate their involvement in scientology or any other cult-like religion.

seperate pages?

Maybe now they are older they need seperate pages? as they may start working seperatly.

Agreed. MK has now had parts in Working Girl (though her scene was cut and she was only visible in the background) and in the upcoming season of Weeds.

yeah they totally need to be separated

I second that, there is no longer any reason for them to be together. Galaxydog2000 15:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Identical or fraternal?

Previously the wikipedia article said they were fraternal twins, and cited this article: [1]. Of course only a genetic test can be definitive, but you can tell "just by looking at them" that they are identical. The meaning of the factoid in the article was clearly not "they do not have identical genotypes," but rather "they have minor variations in the phenotypic expression of their genotype." Genotypically identical twins having variation in height, beauty marks, and handedness is all very normal. If there is a better source than that misleading article, feel free to provide it.

I recall that the twins themselves claim to be fraternal, but there doesn't seem to be any convincing reason to take their word for it. If you insist on mentioning their claim without some kind of definitive source for its factuality, it might be most accurate to change the wording to something like: "Though they appear to be identical twins and only have minor variations in appearance completely within the norm for people of identical genotypes, the twins themselves claim to be fraternal." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneezed (talk • contribs) 04:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

i have come across i believe two twin experts who opine mk and a are identicals. raeanna levenson rules the world . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.124.91.199 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)                                                                                                                                                                      

They are fraternal they got DNA tested 4 times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moosemania123 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

How can they be identical when one is shorter than the other? LOL!― LADY GALAXY ★彡 ^Refill/lol 00:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I dont know? Could it POSSIBLY be the fact that diet, drug use and lifestyle plays a HUGE factor in a persons growth? Oh no, couldn't be that, that makes too much darn sense.64.230.7.4 00:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

They have said... and are OBVIOUSLY... fraternal. I can tell them apart... they looked very identical at a younger age, but at this point, they are far from identical... I question whether this should be considered a reasonable question. At a younger age, they could be distinguished by a birthmark that Ashley had and MK did not... they were strangely mirror image as MK is left handed and Ash is right... but they have always had slightly different face and eye shapes and they are clearly not identical. Also, MK is shorter, and were they not fraternal they would be the same height.

It is kind hard to say what they are. I believe that they do. But you look at them closely, they aren't identical. They were only identical when they were younger, but now that they are older they don't look identical. You can actually tell them apart now.

As the first poster said, perhaps in slightly technical language, the term "identical twins" is a medical one and does not imply a completely identical appearance. "Identical" twins can have slight variations in appearance, due mainly to environmental factors, that obviously increase over time, as the environment has more time to act on them. Also factors such as weight, that has been an issue with the Olsens lately, and hair style and color, that can obviously be changed at will, can drastically alter a person's appearance, so that "identical" twins can appear significantly different. Continuing to use reference "1" as proof that the Olsens are not "identical twins" is a mistake. If there is a reference to their having been genetically tested, it should be provided instead. --Gsapient 06:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

My name is Bond, Twin Bond.

The Olsen girls will be Bond' chicks for the next Agent 007 movie, this is widely reported in the press. They got it into the contract there will be no nudity. This should go into the article. 81.0.68.145 21:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I find that gross. Theyre too young looking. And its not widely reported, it mentioned a few places as a rumor.

e.g. "In May, the twins were rumored to have been offered parts as the first twin Bond girls opposite Daniel Craig in the next film. No one's been able to confirm that story." http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/4-0&fp=467787cace9ad0ae&ei=kjx3Rr-LO4OuoALu8_Qp&url=http%3A//www.post-gazette.com/pg/07164/793502-42.stm&cid=0

This is untrue.

NEED LIST.

Article needs estimated net worth of the twins. Heard they were up and above the billion dollar mark already, info like this should be added by a resourceful wikipedian in my opinion.

Nowhere near a billion. Forbes say $100 million - don't know if that is combined or each though. http://www.forbes.com/2007/01/17/richest-women-entertainment-tech-media-cz_lg_richwomen07_0118womenstars_lander.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.113.10 (talk) 20:57, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Crediting on Full House

the use of 'Mary Kate Ashley Olsen' was supposed to give the illusion of them being one person? The way it came off to me (with a line break after Kate) was that they were two people with different last names.. >.>

They were credited as "Mary Kate Ashley Olsen" for the first 3 seasons of the show, to avoid confusion. Afterwards it became "Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen. To help differentiate, MK did most of the comedic scenes, whereas Ashley did more of the somber and/or emotional scenes.