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It's a somewhat subtle point, but I would object to characterizations in this article that Harry Powell is "masquerading" as a preacher, or pretending to be a preacher. It's a significant point of the character that he is in fact a man of God - at least in his own twisted mind. He might not be wanting to tell people what else he does, but he has himself thinking that he's doing the Lord's work. Not just Harry Powell but THE LORD hates those perfume smelling things.4.89.130.49 18:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced "masquerades" with "presents himself" as it seems more NPOV. Doctormatt 19:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

finger tattoos

In the influences/references section, there are a number of examples of words tattooed on fingers in other movies, etc. I wonder if these are, in fact, all related to The Night of the Hunter. That is, they have a common element to the movie, but that doesn't necessarily imply influence by, or reference of, the film. It seems to me that just having words tattooed on fingers is not enough evidence to support inclusion in this article. What do others think? Doctormatt 23:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

finger tattoos 2

I think you're right, but that is the case with virtually every allusion to any work of art. I changed the sentence opening that section to accommodate the possibility that the references are not directly derivative (I believe they're all at the very least indirectly derivative). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burlapbra (talk • contribs) 17:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is why we need better information on allusions. For instance, a quote from a director or writer saying that they are a fan of TNOTH, and that's why they have a character in their film with finger tattoos - that would be a good piece of information to include here. Note that the threshold for inclusion on wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. While I can verify that a character in a movie has finger tattoos by watching the movie, I cannot verify that this is an allusion by simply watching the movie, and so it is not valid to be included in this article without further citations. In addition, there is the problem of original research. Doctormatt 18:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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	I think you're right, but that is the case with virtually every allusion to any work of art. I changed the sentence opening that section to accommodate the possibility that the references are not directly derivative (I believe they're all at the very least indirectly derivative). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Burlapbra\|Burlapbra]] ([[User talk:Burlapbra\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Burlapbra\|contribs]]) 17:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->		I think you're right, but that is the case with virtually every allusion to any work of art. I changed the sentence opening that section to accommodate the possibility that the references are not directly derivative (I believe they're all at the very least indirectly derivative). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Burlapbra\|Burlapbra]] ([[User talk:Burlapbra\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Burlapbra\|contribs]]) 17:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			:This is why we need better information on allusions. For instance, a quote from a director or writer saying that they are a fan of TNOTH, and that's why they have a character in ''their'' film with finger tattoos - ''that'' would be a good piece of information to include here. Note that the threshold for inclusion on wikipedia is [[WP:VERIFY\|verifiability]], not truth. While I can verify that a character in a movie has finger tattoos by watching the movie, I cannot verify that this is an ''allusion'' by simply watching the movie, and so it is not valid to be included in this article without further [[WP:CITE\|citations]]. In addition, there is the problem of [[WP:OR\|original research]]. [[User:Doctormatt\|Doctormatt]] 18:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)