Talk:Gene Hunt

Birthdate

"Gene Hunt was born in 1931 (as he is portrayed as being in his early 40s)." - was this somebody's unmathematical guess, or a just badly-phrased reference to an actual source that puts his year of birth as 1931? I've assumed the former and removed it for now. --McGeddon (talk) 19:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• His birth date has not been established in canon. The most likely is 1931 tho. This would make him 42 in 1973 (a year younger than Philip Glenister at the time of filming) having done his national service in 1949-1950. He couldn't have been born earlier though, as National service wasn't established until 1949 and it's already been established he left it at the age of 19 to join the police force, so he'd have to have joined it at 17-18 for the 18 month stint.Exxolon (talk) 04:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Using present tense to describe fiction

This article's infobox currently says "Police Officer formerly for Manchester and Salford Police and now the London Metropolitan Police Service." This should be revised to match the continuous present tense that the rest of the article uses for fiction. In the action of Life on Mars, Gene Hunt is a member of the Manchester Police, in Ashes to Ashes, he is a member of the London Police. Only if we were speaking specifically of the character's Ashes to Ashes appearance could we say he was "formerly" with the Manchester Police. The usage of "now" is meaningless, since it doesn't help specify which point in the 17 episodes he has appeared in is being used as a reference.--Trystan (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Leadership Skills

I just created this new section. It's only a draft. I'm happy to put work into it, adding examples and references, but I wanted to gauge the other editors' (your) reaction to the new section as a whole first. Do you agree that it's valuable? CuteGargoyle (talk) 15:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It's been removed as original research. I would have thought as POV, but understandable either way. CuteGargoyle (talk) 07:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Revert

I don't see why my addition of information about Harvey Keitel playing him in the US version was removed. Yes, the article concerns the British character, but the information about the actor playing his American counterpart is notable enough to also be included in the lead. Ausir (talk) 23:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

It is unreferenced. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 08:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Please stop using "unreferenced" as a catch-all, end-of-conversation reason for reverting to your preferred version of an article, Jack. 90% of this article has no explicit references.

Mentioning that a similar character exists in the other series would be fine; if we've actually got any sources that talk about how the writers altered the character (or what Glenister thinks of Keitel's performance), we could have a couple of paragraphs in the main article. So long as we don't go back to the confusing "Gene Hunt worked in Manchester in 1973 and New York in 1974" tone that this article had for a while, I think we're fine. --McGeddon (talk) 09:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not doing that at all, please stop using your catch-all of my preferred version. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

You undid twenty separate edits to your own previous version of this article, because some original research had crept in during those edits. You've also been consistently reverting to your own versions of Life on Mars related articles because you disagree with the edits of User:MileyDavidA this week. Your explanation for all of this has been "original research/unreferenced". --McGeddon (talk) 09:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Of course I have been, they are all full of blatant unreferenced/OR information. Taking into account what a fetish you have for the rules, I thought you would agree. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

They have contained very small amounts of original research, but that's all. They're no more unreferenced than the current versions of the articles, which draw heavily from the series itself as a source. Reverting them and giving the user four flat vandal warnings because his contributions are somehow more "unreferenced" than the rest of the article is unhelpful and confusing, and I hope we haven't lost an enthusiastic Life on Mars fan because of it. --McGeddon (talk) 09:33, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

If you say so, I'm past the point of arguing with you, its just not worth it. You seem to be some sort of robot, who just reads what you want to see. But make no mistakes, WP:OR/unreferenced material will not enter this article. [[::User:Police,Mad,Jack|Police,Mad,Jack]] ([[::User talk:Police,Mad,Jack|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Police,Mad,Jack|contribs]])☺ 09:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

This sounds like an unhelpful misconception about how Wikipedia works. Unreferenced material can become referenced, and original research can sometimes be salvaged by sourcing or rewriting it. --McGeddon (talk) 09:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)