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	Colley Cibber, the old fraud, is on the main page today, 18 October 2005.

Evidence presented by Bishonen

This is a more diffified version of my statement on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Silverback.

14 October

I'd never interacted with Silverback or 172 before this occasion. I noticed an appeal from 172 to have personal attacks by Silverback at VFU removed by an admin. I checked the link, saw comments on "character" and "morality" which I thought quite inappropriate, including disparaging speculation about how 172 "probably behaves" IRL. I deleted such remarks conservatively—this diff shows exactly what I removed—leaving <Personal attacks removed> tags in their place and leaving a note urgently requesting Silverback to stop commenting personally and insultingly on other editors.

Silverback disagreed with my actions, and we had a short but, I initially thought, hopeful discussion, first on VFU and then on my talk.[1], [2], [

on my talkpage (some salient quotations from it are set out in the section "Silverback on User talk:Bishonen" above). S was polite to myself, acknowledging my good faith, and therefore I had hopes of getting through on the specific 172 issue also, but I kept being frustrated by his inappropriate insinuations and speculations about 172 personally — in real life, even. My exhortations to "comment on content, not on the contributor" were ignored, and after four posts from S (some of them to 172, who joined in to defend himself) I gave up and rather impatiently asked S to either stop making these personal attacks or stop posting on my page. He stopped posting. Bishonen | talk 23:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

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+This is a more diffified version of my [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Silverback&diff=25619292&oldid=25617771 statement] on [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Silverback]].
-===15 October===
-*I noticed an [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_Gerard&diff=25430587&oldid=25427736 appeal from 172] to have personal attacks by Silverback at [[WP:VFU|VFU]] removed by an admin. I'd never interacted with 172 or Silverback. I looked, saw  comments on "character" and "morality" which I thought quite inappropriate, and some abusive speculation about 172's RL: "You should know that character matters, and your lack of morality in small matters like this, does not speak well for how you probably behave in the rest of your life where the tempting spoils of immorality and deceit are greater. No wonder you favor authoritarian regimes, you only know how to take what you want, you don't know how to earn it." I deleted such remarks conservatively—[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion&diff=25473017&oldid=25468821 this diff] shows exactly what I removed—leaving <Personal attacks removed> tags in their place and an explanation on the page.
+===14 October===
+*I'd never interacted with Silverback or 172 before this occasion. I noticed an [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:David_Gerard&diff=25430587&oldid=25427736 appeal from 172] to have personal attacks by Silverback at [[WP:VFU|VFU]] removed by an admin. I checked the link, saw comments on "character" and "morality" which I thought quite inappropriate, including disparaging speculation about how 172 "probably behaves" IRL. I deleted such remarks conservatively—[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion&diff=25473017&oldid=25468821 this diff] shows exactly what I removed—leaving <Personal attacks removed> tags in their place and leaving a note urgently requesting Silverback to stop commenting personally and insultingly on other editors.
+Silverback [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review&diff=prev&oldid=25484994 disagreed] with my actions, and we had a short but, I initially thought, hopeful discussion, first on VFU and then on my talk.[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review&diff=25501796&oldid=25487048], [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review&diff=25504844&oldid=25504348], [
+[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen#Votes_for_undeletion.23Totalitarian_dictators on my talkpage] (some salient quotations from it are set out in the section "Silverback on [[User talk:Bishonen]]" above). S was polite to myself, acknowledging my good faith, and therefore I had hopes of getting through on the specific 172 issue also, but I kept being frustrated by his inappropriate insinuations and speculations about 172 personally — in real life, even. My exhortations to "comment on content, not on the contributor" were ignored, and after four posts from S (some of them to 172, who joined in to defend himself) I gave up and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&diff=25546473&oldid=25542556 rather impatiently] asked S to either stop making these personal attacks or stop posting on my page. He stopped posting. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 23:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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