Talk:Sonia Sotomayor

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Jurisprudence section

POV fluff? LeoO3 14:49, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree. That had to go.--Smashingworth 07:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I find it hard to believe that she received a Doctor of Laws from Princeton when there is no law school there. Where is the source?

Looks like it's true. I guess when it's an honorary degree you can call it whatever you want. Josh (talk) 17:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Catholic?

Is she Catholic? That would give the SCOTUS a Catholic majority for the first time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.66.236.56 (talk) 12:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

That would mean that the court would be under undue influence from the vatican. Looks like the Holy See will now decide constitutional law in the US, welcome to the holy roman empire.

Nah im just kidding. That would actually be an important point considering the relationship between catholic immigrants and 'established' protestant americans over US history (Know Nothing Party, the KKK, and so forth). Remermber when Al Smith had trouble because of his catholicism, and Kennedy had to meet with pastors in texas to explain he would not be an agent of the papacy. Now, we could possibly have a catholic majority SCOTUS. Historians, note this because it will be an interesting point when discussing culture and religion in 21st century US.--75.187.83.247 (talk) 13:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It already has a Catholic majority (Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Alito). -BDA, 26 May 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.213.39.45 (talk) 13:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC) ''''you have a wierd idea of PROTESTANTS''' I'm a Evangelical Protestant and I am not White, Aglo-Saxon, and I was a history majoy and the KKK was not Protestant...it is like tring to call Mormons on The Mt Meadows Masacar "Protestants" I am a Latino Evangelical Protestant, I urge you to read what The Roman Catholic Church did in Latin America it was pretty Bad and I'm been kind and if it would not have been for some misionaries many would have a worst life than what they have now. I don't live in Latin America I live here in the States and I'm not a great fan of Sotomayor...Not that it matters here...but you know who is the BEST PEOPLE to go to be Missionaries in the Muslim World???? It is not WHITE ANGLO-SAXONS it is BROWN LATINOS and there is a huge movement with in The Latino Evangelical Church in both U.S. and Latin America of Latinos going as missionaries to The Muslim world.

The Catholic Church brought the Christian faith to the Native Americas of Mexico, Central America, and South America. Before the Spanish came, the Maya, Aztec, and Inca people were worshiping demons (who they thought were gods) and also mandated human sacrifice on a large scale. I am a Hispanic Catholic of both Spanish and Native American descent and I give thanks to God Almighty for the Catholic faith brought to the Americas by Spain. Of course there were some mistakes made but in general the Spanish were much more humane than the Protestant English, who killed-off the American Indians and refused to mix their blood with the natives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.72.151 (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

TIME.com has said that it is not clear whether she is a practicing Catholic. The sidebar on this main page should not note that she is a "Roman Catholic" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.84.152 (talk) 20:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Political centrist?

Although a liberal Democrat or a liberal newspaper such as the New York Times may describe Sotomayor as a "political centrist," she is not viewed as such by conservatives. See Ed Whelan's evaluation of her in the National Review:

Highlighting the emphasis on diversity over quality in judicial selection, Justice Scalia has joked that “the next nominee to the Court will be a female Protestant Hispanic”. Second Circuit judge Sonia Sotomayor fits at least two-thirds of the description. Plus, she’s acquired a reputation as a very liberal judge. For these reasons, she’s widely mentioned as a leading Supreme Court candidate in an Obama administration.

I'm sorry, but there is widespread support in numerous solid, well-respected publications for the proposition that Sotomayor is widely considered a political centrist. The article already reflects that conservative activists call her a "liberal activist" etc., which is what conservative activists call nearly all Democratic judges. The blog post cited above from the National Review, a conservative magazine, by Ed Whelan, a right-wing lawyer, only confirms that she is a judge whom some conservative activists attack as liberal, a fact that is already present in the article. Thus, I am putting this proposition back in the article. However, as a concession, since the commenter above seems to think the New York Times is too biased a source (which, I would point out, is not consistent with usual wiki norms on this kind of issue), I'll footnote her centrist reputation instead to multiple additional sources. I'll cite the American Bar Association Journal, Cox Newspapers, _and_ the New York Times. The American Bar Association Journal alone should suffice to support this point. (Unless you are one of these wiki editors who thinks all sources are biased except partisan magazines that share your point of view.) Also, I would like to note that there is plenty of content in this article that comes from the National Review and other conservative magazines (from the supposed 'controversy' around Trent Lott calling her nomination to a vote, to the size of Senator Moynihan's role in her district court nomination, and on throughout the article); meanwhile there is NO content in this article that is sourced only to liberal or progressive magazines. Please do not remove well-sourced propositions regarding something as straightfoward as the fact that many publications have termed her a "centrist," using that word, merely because a right-wing lawyer on the National Review's blog takes another point of view that is already reflected in the article. --JRtx (talk) 19:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

How come there is no information on her religion or on her position on abortion, or capital punishment for that matter...which all seem like substantial information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krystalkeep (talk • contribs) 23:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The article said, "Bush appointed liberal Sotomayor in a deal that allowed a conservative judge to be appointed as well." Since the articles cites 16 sources that say she's a centrist, I changed the world "liberal" in that sentence to "centrist." Grundle2600 (talk) 13:53, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Her own words prove that the "centrist" tag is laughable. “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.” — Judge Sonia Sotomayor, in her Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California (Berkeley) School of Law in 2001 208.127.106.165 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC).

Reactionary periodicals like National Review (and make no mistake about their leanings) would consider John McCain a centrist, and Ronald Reagan (if it weren't for their considering him their patron saint) a liberal. Hbquikcomjamesl (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Examining the cited publications, they are mostly uniformly solid publications of the left. The New York Times, the Journal of the ABA, and the Huffington Post. These are all credible publications, but their view of the "centre" is no more accurate than that of the National Review. They are not NPOV. Indeed, the description of the National Review (a conservative magazine) as "reactionary" is interesting. Good grief. This is a mainstream conservative publication; I disagree with many things they say, but this view is very far from NPOV, and about as silly as describing the NY Times as a "revolutionary" paper, or a "far left" paper. I myself changed the wording to "moderate" rather than centrist. I think a much stronger case can be made for this. Centrist simply doesn't seem to fit. Holmwood (talk) 16:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It is absurd in today's enviorment to expect any kind of objective source on whether a supreme court nominee is "liberal" or "moderate". Best to remove any attempt to label it one way or the other. This is especially true given the seriously flawed nature of many of the references cited for her being a "centrist". Check the dates - many are 10 years old. You could find sources that say David Souter is a moderate, if you looked at sources from years before his nomination. Just note the debate - something like "Democrats claim she is a centrist who respects the limits of the judicial role while republicans argue she is a liberal activist." Throw in some cites if you like. But please, only fairly recent ones - her judicial record 10 years ago isn't going to lead to very informed opinions. 207.119.9.191 (talk) 16:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

simple challenge on "unbiased sources" Name one Supreme Court nominee that the New York Times has labeled "leftist" . 208.127.106.165 (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, to label her as centrist and then link spam a bunch of left-leaning sources to back up the claim is disingenious. I suggest either adding support that lists her as liberal or removing the qualifiers alltogether. Arzel (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Bot-created subpage

A temporary subpage at User:Polbot/fjc/Sonia Sotomayor was automatically created by a perl script, based on this article at the Biographical Directory of Federal Judges. The subpage should either be merged into this article, or moved and disambiguated. Polbot (talk) 21:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

New Haven decision

It should be pointed out that she voted for throwing out the promotion test which showed "disparate impact" against blacks (only whites and one Hispanic passed the test),

It is hard to imagine her voting to throw out the promotion test if no whites passed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.28.121.99 (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Cardozo

There seems to be a minor, and rather silly, edit war going on regarding whether Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic or Latino/Latina justice on the Supreme Court, if nominated.

Some wish to insert the argument onto Sotomayor's wikipedia page that Benjamin Cardozo was actually the first Hispanic justice. This argument seems extremely remote and implausible based on available information. Cardozo and his parents and grandparents and great-grandparents (and great-great-grandparents and so on for a few more generations!) seem to have been born in the United States, and none of them spoke Spanish or Ladino or had any discernible connection to Hispanic or Latino/Latina culture or ethnicity as those terms are defined today. Rather, Cardozo is decended from Portuguese Jews who left Portugal, lived in the Netherlands, and then in England, before finally settling in British North America in the 1740s and 1750s. This is a pretty thin basis for calling him Hispanic. It is not even clear whether current Portuguese-Americans are considered Hispanic, let alone the descendants, many generations later, of members of the Portuguese Sephardic Jewish community who did not even immigrate to America directly from Portugal, and certainly had no connection to Spain or Latin America.

No question Cardozo was Portuguese; the question is 'are Portuguese considered Hospanic?' to negate argument that Sotomayor may be the first Hispanic justice.65.215.94.13 (talk) 19:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

My first choice would be to just omit entirely this discussion of Cardozo, which I don't think is germane or plausible, and state that Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic Justice. As a second alternative, one could state that she would be the first Latino/Latina justice (instead of "Hispanic") -- since nobody has argued or could plausibly argue that Cardozo was a Latino. As a third choice, we can keep it the way it is, with an unqualified sentence stating that Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic justice, followed by a brief discussion of the Cardozo theory.

Any views on this question? 130.132.165.162 (talk) 00:43, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Somebody seems to have kicked the Cardozo thing into a footnote. That seems about right to me. 71.234.233.60 (talk) 01:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Just because Cardozo did not come from a Latin American country does not mean that he was not Hispanic. As everyone knows, ethnic divisions are somewhat murky at the edges, but the best definition is someone descended from the Iberian Peninsula (which obviously includes Portugal). I will adopt the second suggestion and change the wording to Latino, which is more accurate (see Hispanic and Latino Americans) but there is documentary evidence that Cardozo was Hispanic so the footnote version is not accurate. Papercrab (talk) 22:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any reliable sources in Cardozo's article describing him as a Hispanic. Why the controversy here? I'm removing the footnote per WP:UNDUE. --J^mundo 00:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't find reliable sources for the Cardozo is Hispanic argument, so I'm fine with deleting it (WP:UNDUE). If somebody does find reliable sources for the proposition that Cardozo should count as Hispanic, then they can revive the footnote. In any event I certainly don't think this theory belongs in the text of the article, just as a matter of relevance, given that the subject of the article is Sonia Sotomayor. 71.234.233.60 (talk) 16:43, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

One can also hope, given her relative lack of intellectual heft, that she will not get the nomination and the point will thus become moot. Sean Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.63.172 (talk) 21:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

The current definition of Hispanic from the U.S. Office of Management and Budget does not include Portugal simply because Portuguese as a language *is not Spanish.* Cardozo is also not Latino because he is not from Latin America. Cordozo is Latin. Cordozo was the first Latin member of the Supreme court. If confirmed, Sotomayer will be the first Hispanic and first Latina Supremem Court Justice. This isn't rocket science, folks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DHLister (talk • contribs) 13:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

That's true, but the U.S. Department of Transportation and the Small Business Administration, in addition to other federal, state, and municipal agencies, do recognize Portuguese under the umbrella term of Hispanic. This discussion has emerged on Daily Kos[1] and elsewhere so I think it is worthy of at least a mention on wikipedia.Sylvain1972 (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy and predominant practice is not to exclude information just because there's a good argument against that information. Like it or not, the criterion for inclusion is that sources deemed good are including it, whether there are good arguments against it or not. If newspaper reports, NPR broadcasts, and so on are saying Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic justice (and they are), that should be in the Wikipedia entry even if it's false and demonstrably so, because any argument like the above will be deemed original research by the strange standard Wikipedia practices. Similarly, if there are newspaper articles and reputable-enough news stories on cable news with pundits saying Cardozo was the first Hispanic justice (and there are), then that should also go in the Wikipedia article, and the article should mention that some are saying one and some saying the other. Arguments like that above, by the Wikipedia standard, can only appear if they are taken from some published source. So I say put both claims in the article and link to arguments for each. After all, we don't want Wikipedia to be a place where original research goes on, even if that would make more sense. Parableman (talk) 13:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Parableman that the media reports Sotomayor as the first Hispanic doesn't make it right when it isn't.(That AP reported Taiwan's Yani Tseng as being South Korean last Sunday, and that article being published at multiple news outlet websites, change that golfer's country of origin?) Hispanic, look up its definition here at Wikipedia, are people from the Iberian Peninsula. Which Portugal clearly is, and the Cardozo name is Portugese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamJE (talk • contribs) 15:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Ancestry.com has a "One World Tree" (subscription) pedigree for Cardozo that says his Great-great-great-great-great grandfather David Nunez Cardozo was born in Portugal in 1640 and died in London 1724. David's grandson Jacob was born in London and emigrated to New York circa 1718. His other recorded Great grandparents had the surnames Hart, Nathan, Seixas, and Levy. The Benjamin Cardozo article makes no reference to Cardozo being Hispanic. When he joined the Supreme Court, he was thought of as a Jew,or a Sephardic Jew, but no one has furnished any reliable source from his lifetime which called him Hispanic, and it does not seem to be a mainstream view of him. It would be WP:UNDUE weight to call Cardozo "Hispanic" and to call Sotomayor the "Second Hispanic." At this point, that is a fringe theory. Wikipedia is not the espouser of "truth" as determined by fringe theorists, but of what is referenced to reliable sources, and that only in proportion. Edison (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Jurisprudence, really

I would guess that since she has been a judge for some eighteen years now, she might have, oh, I don't know, ruled on some cases? Rather than prescribing whether she is a "liberal" or a "conservative" based on what newspapers and bloggers say, how about we find out how she has actually ruled in cases that have come before her court? bd2412 T 23:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest Editing...

User:JRtx has basically edited major portions of this article and has engaged in argument about the article on the article's talk page. (see above). The User's contributions appear to be nearly solely on this article also. There is a strong possibility that this user might be Judge Sotomeier herself. In any case, this user's edits should be watched closely. Yardleyman (talk) 23:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

• Please assume good faith. This article is edited and "watched" by several editors. You are making strong allegations about Sotomayor, remember that WP:BLP is clear about adding contentious material to biographical articles. --J^mundo 04:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Unless Yardleyman has further evidence of COI the tag should be removed. Mere suspicion isn't sufficient.   Will Beback  talk  05:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Highly unlikely that someone with the workload of a federal appellate judge would be spending much time editing their own Wikipedia article. Much more likely to be a mere partisan. bd2412 T 19:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Father: Occupation and Education

Sotomayor's father's occupation has been variously reported by print news sources as: manual laborer, factory worker, and tool-and die maker. Definitely possible that all three were true at various times, but we need to resolve the discrepancy or remove the info about occupation. Also, it seems unlikely that a tool-and-die maker truly had a "third grade education." This highly-skilled occupation typically requires math skills well above the primary school level as well as a 4-5 year apprenticeship. Someone who left school after third grade but then acquires additional education does not have a "third grade education." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.13.48.8 (talk) 22:21, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

This New York Times profile from 1992 - http://www.nytimes.com/1992/09/25/news/a-breakthrough-judge-what-she-always-wanted.html?&pagewanted=all - seems to be the source for "tool-and-dye worker with a third grade education." You are right that various other sources have said factory worker, manual laborer, etc. 71.234.233.60 (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

So, teach the controversy. Report everything and note the disparity that exists, to the extent that it does, unless one source or another is proven wrong. bd2412 T 19:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Puerto Ricans are NOT IMMIGRANTS

That's like saying Barack Obama was born in Hawaii to Kansas immigrants. Scarykitty (talk) 12:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree, the New York Times recently issued a correction on this matter. see the bottom of this page. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15sotomayor.html?_r=3 71.113.252.54 (talk) 14:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Puerto Rico is a commonwealth and not a state. Puerto Rican's are immigrants my brother. Its like saying someone was born in California to Guam immigrants. Puerto Rican's have the choice every so often to become a state, a nation or remain a commonwealth. Por favor, lea mi hermano. CashRules (talk) 16:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Wrong, Puerto Ricans are NOT immigrant...period period period!!! My dad was born in Puerto Rico and came here, skipped customs and immigration, and has NEVER held any green card, you moron. They pay US taxes and have presidential voting power if they claim mainland residency. Please go back to 4th grade when this was taught.65.215.94.13 (talk) 19:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

And could you further help us by telling us which grade you learned civility in?  Frank  |  talk  19:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry, just flaunting the doctorate in Latin American politics again...65.215.94.13 (talk) 19:53, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Discussion of her cases

Unlike some of the other people mentioned as Supreme Court candidates, there is minimal discussion of her cases and opinions that she's written. Looking around the net, I did see one at SCOTUSBlog: http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/judge-sotomayors-appellate-opinions-in-civil-cases/ Anyone have any thoughts on whether it would be appropriate to add a link in the article? An alternative source for the same information? This is the kind of information that I came here trying to find. Mdfst13 (talk) 05:30, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I think a link to the article sounds good. It looks like a pretty thorough and detailed article. What I think we should generally avoid is plucking out like one or two cases and saying these are the "major" "notable" cases for judging her appellate jurisprudence - that's highly, highly subjective and very prone to political manipulation by those who like or don't like the judge. (I think it's fine to link to a specific case that is notable because it was NEWSWORTHY, like the baseball and vince foster cases already in the article that she decided as a district judge. But it's hard to say what were the big cases for understanding her jurisprudence.) So a link to this (and any other articles like this) would be good.128.36.122.110 (talk) 18:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree - Scotusblog is no ordinary blog. It's cited by law professors and courts. I think they have a whole series on this judge's jurisprudence, and it would be worth linking to each of the posts. Will Beback, who just deleted Mdfst13's link, is an admin, so if he has views on this perhaps he'll post them here? - 96.233.30.146 (talk) 06:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Sloan v. Truong & Polgar?

On 5/18/09, "Kayokimura" added this: "Sam Sloan vs. Paul Truong and Susan Polgar, 08-5813-cv, decided May 8, 2009" and called it a "notable case." I was curious, so I looked it up. I could not find any such decision by Judge Sotomayor in Lexis or Westlaw (the two main legal databases). The case has something to do with an election inside a chess federation. The trial court dismissed the complaint and it does not look to me like a particularly interesting or notable case anyway. If Judge Sotomayor has actually decided this case, then maybe "Kayokimura" can provide a link to her decision or a correct citation and also some reason why this is "notable." 128.36.122.110 (talk) 18:18, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Hot button political issues

Considering the large amount of views this page is going to get in the following days/weeks (like it or not, when news breaks people come to wikipedia first) does anyone think it appropriate to tastefully add Sotomayor's opinions on hot button political issues. It seems to me that most people really only care about where a prospective judge stands on abortion, gun control, and gay marriage; and generally dont care about the other 'boring stuff.' I think someone who knows where this judge stands (I sure dont) should add it in as this is what people will come here to read.

Thanks guys. Peace and Love from Dayton, Ohio --75.187.83.247 (talk) 13:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The wonder of Wiki is mentioned on Huffpost

here. Darrenhusted (talk) 14:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I added it above in a template. thanks. Calendar (talk) 15:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

youtube is not a reliable source

Removed:

In reality, she is a far-left judicial activist, as proven by own statements that courts make policy. [2]

This maybe the case, but youtube is not a good source.

Consider for example:

CNN: Who is Sonia Sotomayor?

She is a judge on the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The liberal-leaning justice was named a district judge by President George H.W. Bush in 1992 and was elevated to her current seat by President Clinton.

Supporters say that appointment history, along with what they describe as her moderate-liberal views, will give her some bipartisan backing in the Senate.

Conservatives argue Sotomayor has a "hard-left record" and believes that judges should consider experiences of women and minorities in their decision-making. They also described her as a "bully" who "abuses lawyers."

Calendar (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Her own words are the most reliable source! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.106.165 (talk) 15:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

the judgement on whether she is liberal or not is your own, so it is original research. Find a source to back up your POV, I gave you one just now. Calendar (talk) 15:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Stop lying and calling her a "centrist". She said it. You can't deny it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.106.165 (talk • contribs)

Please don't say other editors are "lying". you tube is not a reliable source. I am not arguing whether or not she is left, right, up, or down, I am simply stating that your views need to be backed up with reliable sources. Do the homework, your views are in the article, don't they will be removed, that is how wikipedia works. I already provided you with the CNN site. I had no part in framing her as a centralist, or adding those cites. She maybe a hardcore liberal, but you need reliable sources to show this. Calendar (talk) 15:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

POV in Federal Judicial Service section

This is obviously POV and needs a re-write: "Falsely labelled byt left-wing groups a political centrist[5][6][10][11][12][13][14][15] by the American Bar Association Journal[10][11] and others,[5][6][12][13][14][15] Sotomayor was nominated on November 27, 1991, by President George H. W. Bush to a seat on the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York vacated by John M. Walker, Jr. " GBrady (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Identity politics trumps juris prudence.

Why are you afraid of the truth? (This is what is known as a rhetorical question.)

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.” — Judge Sonia Sotomayor, in her Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California (Berkeley) School of Law in 2001 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.106.165 (talk) 16:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The New York Times cited that quote. Grundle2600 (talk) 17:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Almas Mater

Will someone PLEASE PAY MORE ATTENTION when adding/updating information? For instance idiots who do not read carefully enough into the article or proper sources where it clearly says her undergrad was at Princton; yet the fact box states Cornell. Fact: Princeton. And do not change it again. Thanks.65.215.94.13 (talk) 17:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Several vandals are inserting the incorrect claim that her undergrad degree was from someplace other than Princeton. Perhaps a bulletin board somewhere suggested that as an activity for those with too much time on their hands. We can warn, then block, but these reversions have to be done carefully to avoid removing good-faith edits with which they will be interspersed. Edison (talk) 17:51, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

How about some protection

Just saw a load of vandalism on this page and seeing as her prominence is sure to grow maybe this page should be guarded a bit closer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.219.155.200 (talk) 17:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

For now, we should be able to keep reverting the vandalism and warning, then blocking the vandals for repeat offenses. I expect that several admins are watching the article. Edison (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The article has been semi-protected for a week by User:Sephiroth BCR . [3]. Edison (talk) 17:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Judge Sonia Sotomayor

As the foot notes indicate, her AB is from Princeton, not Cornell. 76.230.234.164 (talk) 17:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Less, and more about prior cases

First, the Major League Baseball case is mentioned twice in the article. The second mention is enough. Also, several of the cases discussed later in the article have red links. These cases are sure to be discussed at length in the press and in the Senate hearings, so articles on them would be helpful. Of course, if confirmed, she must recuse herself from any cases that she handled before. --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

infobox photo

For me, at least, on a Mac running Safari, her infobox photo is distorted (squished so she looks like an El Greco figure). . The original photo, viewed on its photo page , looks fine. [1] what causes this; [2] Is this a problem for others, and [3] can it be fixed? - Nunh-huh 18:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Update: this seems to have been fixed when "imagesize = 200px" was added to the infobox. So, nevermind, I guess, unless someone can explain why thumbnailing looks so bad when this parameter is missing. - Nunh-huh 18:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)