Talk:Mesothelioma

Mesothelioma Cancer Center

The link www.asbestos.com has been removed after being added, I wished to start a discussion about this and explain it is NOT a law firm, merely one of the sponsors IS a law firm.

I understand your linking policy and respect that you only want to include links that you feel are educational and are funded by individuals/organizations that are credible. However, asbestos exposure is an incredibly serious issue that directly causes life-threatening diseases such as mesothelioma cancer, asbestosis, and other forms of cancer. Asbestos.com is a completely separate entity from "the Peterson Firm", They merely provide most of the funding for the educational site [asbestos.com]. Asbestos.com is actually funded by a multiple number of organizations, all of which have the goal of educating the public about the dangers of asbestos exposure.

Just recently Asbestos.com has achieved HON code approval (Health On the Net (HON) Foundation is a not-for-profit foundation that works to preserve the accuracy and trustworthiness of Web-based medical information). They also at first denied our application for HON, until we explained to them the same thign I'm explaining to you, and they had a chance to look through the 2,000 pages of Doctor reviewed and edited material. Our site has employed a full staff of writers dedicated to research and writing about asbestos exposure and the diseases that result from exposure to the toxic mineral. In addition, our site has hired a medical adviser and editor, Dr. Mauricio Salazar,M.D., who has worked in the field of cancer treatment for years, has personally reviewed, edited, and approved all medical information on our site. Asbestos.com has a knowledgeable 24-year navy veteran on staff that helps any veteran who fills out a form or calls 1-800-asbestos with all VA claims. He has helped over 1,000 veterans file and complete VA claims since the Mesothelioma Cancer Center was founded. All of these services on the site, from the free books and informational packets to suffers, to the VA claim assistance, are completely Free. The only reason we are able to offer these services for free to the public is because of our funding from all of the organizations that support us (especially the peterson firm).

Again I’d like you to just consider us once more as a resource for your site because I believe we offer unique information and services that no other sites offer, Thank you again for taking time out of your day to talk to me about this, I hope to hear back from you regardless of your decision in the matter. Have a great day.

Timothy Cavanaugh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elkyyy (talk • contribs) 17:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Tim, the issue is the intent. The content on asbestos.com is well-written and pretty comprehensive but the reason that sites like asbestos.com, maacenter.org, mesotheliomaweb.org, mesothelioma.com, mesotheliomanews.com etc ... even exist is to recruit clients for one of the most profitable mass litigation industries.

Putting a link to asbestos.com would open up the floodgates and soon half of the content on the page would be links to law firms or sourced to pages on their sites, which in turn hurts the credibility of Wikipedia because it is an implicit endorsement. I'm sure there are links on a number of pages that go to law firm sites but the value of a link on wikipedia for mesothelioma would improve your competitive advantage in SEO (yes it's nofollowed but Google does have trust rank) and probably get you guys some more cases (avg settlement 200k at a near 70% success rate)which in turn means profiting over the credibility of wikipedia.

Right now I did a search for mesothelioma and asbestos.com occupied the third and fourth results positions. Isn't that good enough for you guys?

Also you weren't honest in the above section, you mentioned funding from multiple organizations, I didn't see anything on the site. Also with the money the site is making, why would there be a need for funding from multiple sources?

Also I did a Whois search and the contact info for asbestos.com was:

Asbestos & Mesothelioma Awareness Group (I'd like to see you prove this "group" exists in real life)

3208 E. Colonial Drive

Suite 180

Orlando, Florida 32803

United States

You claim that "Asbestos.com is a completely separate entity from "the Peterson Firm" yet visiting petersonfirm.com reveals that they are headquartered a mere 3 miles away at 20 N. Orange Ave (according to Google Maps).

I have a hard time believing that this "separate entity" is conveniently located 8 minutes from their sponsor.

Tim, honesty is the best policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.67.217.40 (talk) 01:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

In addition, Google maps and (street view) shows 3208 E. Colonial Dr being located in "Fashion Square Mall" with such neighbors as the UPS Store, Orlando Payday Loan and Cash Advance, and Pool Fence of Orlando. 67.67.217.40 (talk) 01:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Linking summary:

Domain:

• http://www.asbestos.com
  • asbestos.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Related domains:

• http://1800probate.com
  • 1800probate.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
• http://PetersonFirm.com
  • petersonfirm.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com

Account:

• Elkyyy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)

Asbestos & Mesothelioma Awareness Group, Inc. is a for-profit company incorporated by Carl H. Peterson and Raymond Apelado:

• http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Orlando/asbestos-mesothelioma-awareness-group-inc-5582472.aspx

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

CureMeso

I do not believe that this link should be included in the article and invite other editors to weigh in with their opinion so we can establish a consensus one way or the other. TNXMan 15:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

A preliminary discussion can be found here. TNXMan 16:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually I went to the link after Johnnygoat00 added it back in. The home page isn't too useful but I think [1] is. Perhaps we could link directly to that page? --NeilN ^{talk ♦ contribs} 17:14, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

That page does look more useful. I would have no problem with a link there. TNXMan 17:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It's nearly 2010 and I'm working for a UK company on a boat in the North Sea and I have white Asbestos less than 10cm from my pillow, cracked. I've covered it with tape. There is brown Asbestos in the cupboards. What a shame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jago25 98 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)