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Placed article for discussion after PROD tag was removed without reason given. After some research into this and similar articles, I've been unable to find any apparent reliable third-party sources to use as references. There are no citations used in the article to suggest or affirm notability, and no Wikipedia articles extended or linking in appear to grant notability by legacy. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: This article only links to others within Wikipedia that seem to be of the same very narrow subject and scope, and give the appearance of a self-referencing group of bombardment articles maintained by the same limited number of editors. I decided to put a few articles up for discussion versus jumping to conclusions and trying to make a wider report. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
• Note: The article has been deleted by AfD before, but since it has been a fair amount of time I didn't want to tag it as merely a recreation. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 21:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

STRONG KEEP — i went through wikipedia's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MUSIC#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

and according to its:

• (6th criteria (which Nothnegal passes clearly): (nothnegal do have:) two or more independently notable musicians, (both these musicians are:) members of two or more independently notable ensembles.

and they do pass the 1st, 2nd criterias as well.

• (1st criteria: Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable)

nothnegal's news have been covered on places like blabbermouth.net (Blabbermouth.net, described by the London Free Press as a "reliable industry and fan site",[1] is widely recognized as an authority on heavy metal and hard rock. It has been cited as a source by the London Free Press,[1] New Musical Express,[7][8] MTV.com[9][10] the Toronto Sun,[11][12] the Baltic News Service,[13] the St. Petersburg Times,[14] News.com.au,[15] and OC Weekly[16]. -- source: blabbermouth.net and more like Metal Storm (webzine) to name some:
1- http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=113435
2- http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=129636
3- http://www.metalstorm.ee/events/news_comments.php?news_id=8073
4- http://www.bravewords.com/news/105615

• (2nd criteria: Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country)

noted festival caos emergente's website and myspace confirms that Nothnegal performed on their festival in Portugal along with other notable bands.
1- http://www.caos-emergente.com (refer to 'artists 2009' page)
2- http://www.myspace.com/caosemergente
3- http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=78857058&blogId=506598688 (concert poster)

--Mv head (talk) 07:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

• it seems like the only bands and musicians who are notable for you are the ones that reach billboard 200, mainstream media or have albums certified gold or platinum. thousands of articles about bands who have not yet achieved that standard have existed on wikipedia. i believe you should go on tagging them as well?

blabbermouth.net alone have plenty of articles covering Nothnegal: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Search&searchtext=nothnegal&x=0&y=0