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No indication that band meets the notability criteria. Further there is a major contributor so theres also a conflict of interest. I am also nominating the following related pages because they are dependent on the subject (band's albums):

Maashatra11 (talk) 16:55, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question - for the COI issue, I assume you are talking about one or both of the two editors who have contributed most to the article, but how do you know it's a true conflict of interest rather than just someone who is interested in promoting the band? I looked at the talk pages for the articles and users and there are some vague indications but not enough for proof, IMO. (Note: I agree that notability for the band is a legit concern, regardless.) DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 23:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am talking about a sole editor which is also the article's creator, User:Meoneko. If you take a deeper look, you can see that all other contributors were trying to fix up/wikify the article.

In any case - Isn't "just someone who is interested in promoting the band" the exact definition of a COI? Cheers, --Maashatra11 (talk) 12:13, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I guess "interested in promoting..." was a poor choice of words on my part. Maybe "interested in spreading information about..." is closer to what I was thinking. For example, I am "interested in spreading information about" Led Zeppelin so I am a member of their WP project, but that doesn't mean I have a conflict of interest. But you have uncovered some evidence that there might be a conflict of interest with this little band under discussion here. DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:49, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- --Darkwind (talk) 21:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. -- --Darkwind (talk) 21:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete (band and albums) - the sources that I can read appear to be self-promotional across the board so it looks like the band has bot received independent and reliable third-party coverage. But my vote is "weak" because there are some sources available in Vietnamese, Japanese, and French which might be reliable but I can't read them. Note that group member Fabien Remblier has his own article at French WP so maybe the band should be mentioned in passing over there. Also, the conflict of interest can be a serious issue but is not a reason for deletion in itself. There are different resolution procedures for that problem: see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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-*'''Weak Delete''' - the sources that I can read appear to be self-promotional across the board so it looks like the band has bot received independent and reliable third-party coverage. But my vote is "weak" because there are some sources available in Vietnamese, Japanese, and French which might be reliable but I can't read them. Note that group member [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabien_Remblier Fabien Remblier] has his own article at French WP so maybe the band should be mentioned in passing over there. Also, the conflict of interest can be a serious issue but is not a reason for deletion in itself. There are different resolution procedures for that problem: see [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard]]. <font face="Calibri">[[User:Doomsdayer520|<font color="MediumSeaGreen">'''D<small>OOMSDAYER</small>520'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|Talk]]|[[ Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|Contribs]])</font> 15:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Weak Delete (band and albums)''' - the sources that I can read appear to be self-promotional across the board so it looks like the band has bot received independent and reliable third-party coverage. But my vote is "weak" because there are some sources available in Vietnamese, Japanese, and French which might be reliable but I can't read them. Note that group member [http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabien_Remblier Fabien Remblier] has his own article at French WP so maybe the band should be mentioned in passing over there. Also, the conflict of interest can be a serious issue but is not a reason for deletion in itself. There are different resolution procedures for that problem: see [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard]]. <font face="Calibri">[[User:Doomsdayer520|<font color="MediumSeaGreen">'''D<small>OOMSDAYER</small>520'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Doomsdayer520|Talk]]|[[ Special:Contributions/Doomsdayer520|Contribs]])</font> 15:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)