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I don't think it is right to ''first'' include Tillman's posthumous rank in the Army along with his name in the intro. In biography pages on Wikipedia, if I am not mistaken, simply the person's name is listed. See for example, [[George Patton]], [[John Pershing]], [[Ulysses S. Grant]], and [[Erwin Rommel]]. None of these articles state the person's military rank, just the name, and then later give the rank. [[User:ChessPlayer|ChessPlayer]] 22:52, 10 May 2004 (UTC) |
I don't think it is right to ''first'' include Tillman's posthumous rank in the Army along with his name in the intro. In biography pages on Wikipedia, if I am not mistaken, simply the person's name is listed. See for example, [[George Patton]], [[John Pershing]], [[Ulysses S. Grant]], and [[Erwin Rommel]]. None of these articles state the person's military rank, just the name, and then later give the rank. [[User:ChessPlayer|ChessPlayer]] 22:52, 10 May 2004 (UTC) |
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== Media coverage of his brother's eulogy and blog coverage in general == |
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Supposedly they pulled their coverage of the funeral because of what his brother said about Pat not being religious. Sounds like he was a pretty interesting guy, not what I would have guessed, but I know that I have some pretty horrible stereotypes regarding football (beer/wife beating/etc.) |
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If someone would like to spend 20 minutes summarizing the blog coverage of all this, I think it would really add to this page. |
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Here's a good starting point: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=pat+tillman+blog&btnG=Search Google Search for pat+tillman+blog] |
Revision as of 19:56, 3 June 2004
San Jose native?
In its headline for covering the AP story, the San Jose Mercury News calls Tillman a "San Jose native", but doesn't cite any evidence (birthplate etc.). Anyone know? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:36, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Looks like he was born in San Jose [1] ElBenevolente 02:05, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone else find it really freakish that the article was started a week before Tilman died? Eek. Isomorphic 02:16, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I started the article last week after I saw Pat Tillman was on Requested articles. I was a bit freaked out when I saw the news this morning. -- ElBenevolente 02:46, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- That is indeed freakish! ChessPlayer
Links in the Article
I delinked "killed in action" as it linked to a page which was for defining KIA as "killed in action". "KIA" wasn't used in the article, so the link was linking to a page which had no useful information. ChessPlayer 22:13, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Yes, that's true now. But in a few years time that may not necessily be so. It's quite reasonable, for example, to imagine the KIA article being updated with various militaries' rules for calling someone "KIA" as opposed to "missing presumed killed", MIA, etc., links to some future memorial wiki, or other stuff one can't imagine now. Equally (I'm stretching things for this case, but not for others) someone could go to KIA and hit "what links here" and get a list of those people so designated (yeah, it'll be very far from comprehensive, but it's a start). So, in general, I don't think that because an article is useless now (you right in saying that for the purposes of the Tillman article, the KIA one mostly is useless) doesn't mean it will always be so, and so that isn't a great criterion as to whether one should link to it. This particular case, I'll grant, is marginal. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 00:05, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Well, when the KIA article says something relevant to this article, no doubt someone will link it again :-)....but for now, it just added clutter. Linking too many words is not good style, it makes text hard to read. ChessPlayer
Article Introduction
I don't think it is right to first include Tillman's posthumous rank in the Army along with his name in the intro. In biography pages on Wikipedia, if I am not mistaken, simply the person's name is listed. See for example, George Patton, John Pershing, Ulysses S. Grant, and Erwin Rommel. None of these articles state the person's military rank, just the name, and then later give the rank. ChessPlayer 22:52, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
Media coverage of his brother's eulogy and blog coverage in general
Supposedly they pulled their coverage of the funeral because of what his brother said about Pat not being religious. Sounds like he was a pretty interesting guy, not what I would have guessed, but I know that I have some pretty horrible stereotypes regarding football (beer/wife beating/etc.)
If someone would like to spend 20 minutes summarizing the blog coverage of all this, I think it would really add to this page.
Here's a good starting point: Google Search for pat+tillman+blog