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DYK nomination of William Russell Lane-Joynt

Hello! Your submission of William Russell Lane-Joynt at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Please see talk page for another suggestion. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

How to get remaining two photos posted?

Thanks for your message...nice for a newbie to get some help. I think I made the same procedures for each of the 4 photographs but only two appear in the article. Any idea why the other two don't show? Also, I'd like these to be available for all on Wikimedia Commons, not just Wikipedia. What do I need to do to fix all of this/

On another note...of course when one knows what they are doing, things are easy. Are there any good tutorial/instructional videos to help new users learn more efficiently. I'm afraid to think about how much time it took to get a sense what to do and post just these two photos...it's mind boggling. Thanks for your guidance. Enviromet (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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50 year old image

The image I uploaded is public domain as it was taken over 50 years ago. it is replacing a lower resolution version of the exact same image (look on the history of the article featuring the photo to see what I mean)

wikipedia has become a giant confusing mess and I don't have the time or patience to learn the insanity that should be as simple as a dropdown box to select "public domain"

feel free to tag the image as such, or explain it to me, because I - a computer science major and IT professional - can't figure it out.

thanks. Asaturn (talk) 01:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually it is not really that hard, even for an IT pro, which I was for several years. While you claim the image is in the public domain, you provided no evidence of this nor have you added a suitable copyright tag, besides which 50 years is not enough to put an image into the public domain. There is a simple drop down menu near the bottom of the upload page that provides most of the commonly used licences. In the US, except for some special exceptions, you must show that it was published before 1923 or that the author died over 100 years ago. Can you provide more information about any of those things? Unfortunately the burden of proof is on the uploader to provide the requested information but you did not even bother to link to the image in question, as clearly requested at the top of my edit page, nor to the edit where you claim a lower resolution was replaced in an article. If you can provide me with that information I may be able to help you better. BTW, you actually don't need to upload a new image under a new name if you are uploading a better version of an existing image (there is a "Upload a new version of this file" on each image page). What was that image? I can then look at the information it contained and see if something confirms our copyright requirements. If this image is not actually freely licenced it may be possible to use it under the fair-use doctrine because she is dead, so long as the image complies with all 10 Non-free content criteria. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. I await your response, so I can help you. Hope that helps. ww2censor (talk) 02:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture Question

Hi. I was just curious. I wanted to post this picture here on an article. http://www2.netdoor.com/~campbab/kong/kkfrank.jpg The picture was first published in the book Willis O'Brien Special Effects Genius by Steve Archer. The photos were supplied by O'Brien's widow Darlyene (who has since passed away). Is it possible that I can post the pic on an article or does it violate some policy or guideline? The pic has appeared on various websites on the net as well. Giantdevilfish (talk) 23:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking before just uploading. According to the book's page on Amazon it was published in 1998 and without knowing the author or date of the photo, we cannot say it is freely licenced. Do you know when it was taken? Most likely taken pre-1933 when the King Kong movie was released but that makes it still copyright of the original author or his/her heirs and will remain so until 95 or 120 years after his death, unless you can show it was published pre-1964 but its copyright was not renewed or some other dates per commons:COM:L#United States). Do you know anything different about the image? Tineye does not show any hits for its use on any websites as you state. Can you show me? The current answer re use on Wikipedia is maybe, so give me some more info and we shall see. You may find it somewhat useful to read my image copyright information page. Get back to me when you can answer some of the questions. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 23:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. The pic is from 1960. It was a sketch that Willis O'Brien did for a proposed film project called King Kong vs Frankenstein. Various sketches have been published in issues of Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine in the 1960's. These pics were all supplied by O'Brien's widow. If you do a google search for "King Kong vs Frankenstein" on the net you can see it posted on various other sites (mostly Kong sites) as well as other sketches from the planned project. Giantdevilfish (talk) 03:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, so, unless you can show it was published previously, you have confirmed it is still a copyright image, however as Willis O'Brien is dead we need to know who is the current copyright holder which could well be his heirs, or a film studio or production company if the work was done for them. If you can confirm his widow owns the copyright, which incidentally has nothing to do with possession that confers no copyright status on the person owning a physical photograph or drawing, then I suggest you get her to send us her permission with a free licence. You can do this by having her follow the procedure found at WP:PERMISSION and send in her WP:CONSENT by email. Hope that helps. ww2censor (talk) 14:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. As I mentioned in my first post she has since passed away. If I could add something, the pic contains no copyright or credit at all in the Steve Archer book I mentioned above (where it was published). I know that she supplied various pics from this unmade project to Forrey Ackerman and he published a few of them in Famous Monsters of Filmland in the 1960's. This is how I know that she owned them. But that pic contained no copyright or credit when it was first published.Giantdevilfish (talk) 16:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah I missed that she had died. Did he publish this image in the 1960s and if so what year? That could be important. Now her heirs would probably own the copyright and they may be able to provide permission otherwise I think you are out of luck. Many photos don't have copyright notices but that does not mean they are not copyright to someone. Copyright in most instances is assumed. ww2censor (talk) 16:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Willis O'Brien did not have any children with Darlyene. He had two children with his first wife whom she murdered in 1933. Darlyene was his second wife and they never had children. So I don't know if there are any heirs so to speak. As for the pics being posted earlier? That particular photo I don't believe was published in FMOF back in the 1960's, just other sketches from the same project.Giantdevilfish (talk) 02:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for William Russell Lane-Joynt

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Layout on Wikiproject Motorcycling

Hi just noticed that the front page on the Wikiproject Motorcycling has gone wrong again - can you remember what we did to get rid of the white space? Thruxton (talk) 18:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help but Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycling looks ok to me. What exactly are you talking about? ww2censor (talk) 00:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I found out afterwards that the laptop I was using was set to 'zoom' so the welcome didn't start until after the table of contents but thanks anyway Thruxton (talk) 07:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

picture

I got the picture off of a website. how do I stop it from being deleted? ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk) 00:30, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

What website did you get it from and what is the copyright status of the image. If it is not freely licenced, most likely we cannot use it and you cannot keep it. ww2censor (talk) 01:16, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

http://media1.pioneerlocal.com/multimedia/dp-mwhome-101107-pc.jpg_20071010_15_41_12_32-104-165.imageContent —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be a pain but that link is to a much smaller version of the uploaded image, so it will not do. Show me the page this image was linked from, not just the image link, so I can see what the copyright status is. Your link is to a deep linked page which gives no info. ww2censor (talk) 01:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

http://www.pioneerlocal.com/mortongrove/sports/595527,dp-mwhome-101107-pc.fullimage —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk • contribs) 01:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Clearly this is a press photo with attribution to "Jason Brown/Staff Photographer" of the Sun Times Media group, so it is copyright and we cannot use it unless you can get the news organisation to release the image under a free licence, which is highly unlikely. Sorry but you are out of luck on this one. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. In future please sign your posts by adding four tildes, like this ~~~~, to the end of your posts. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 13:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

then can't i just credit him with the picture?? ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk) 15:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

No, it does not work like that. It is a copyright image, so we can't use it. Sorry. Next time they do this, go there and take a photo yourself, then upload it here under a free licence. Good luck. ww2censor (talk) 15:26, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

how about this, i did a little research and i believe the copyright is until 2010. so will i be able to use the picture after dec. 31? ThatOneGuy 207-67 (talk) 22:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

What did you find out and where? I very much doubt what you say because US copyright does not expire that quickly after an image is taken. Show me what you found. ww2censor (talk) 00:51, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Image copyright help

Okay, so you say I need to clarify the copyright status for an image on "Lilliandil" for her character page. I stated where the image came from, Narniaweb. The photo on Narniaweb came from pictures from the german movie tie in Voyage of the Dawn Treader novel. Whats more to be said? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JDJ39 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

While the image File:Narnia01564890-1-.jpg does have a source that source gives not indication of the copyright status. It appears to be a still from a movie and as such is likely copyright of the movie production company, you don't have their permission to use it and we don't accept copyright images. Sometimes movie screenshot can be used under fair-use so long as they comply with all 10 non-free content criteria and follow the guidelines for non-free content. You may also find it useful to read my image copyright information page. You have some work to do. Did you actually read the notice at the top of the edit page on how to link to an image and how to sign your posts? ww2censor (talk) 20:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)