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Also, "murder" is defined as the unlawful killing of a person. Whoever wrote the article states that the members of the Royal Family were "murdered" by Yurovsky's comrades. If the Soviet ruled they were enemies of the state, they were therefore lawfully executed, and "killed" rather than "murdered." I guess it's all whose perspective you take.
- I think they mean unlawful in the sense of an extra-judicial killing, hence murder and not lawful execution.
It is curious to me that you would take the time to discuss the difference between 'murder' and 'execution'. What does that tell us about you? Many people feel that state sponsered 'execution' is murder by the government. In any case what this butcher did was barbaric. You can call it what you like, and you can try to scrub these pages of the brutality of Marxism in action. Are you some how related to this butcher? That people like you still exist in our world, and take the time to put your propaganda forward, shows me that it is necessary to be forever vigilant. The forces of World Marxism are obviously alive and well, and they are in leauge, perhaps, with people akin to this butcher. That could be the real story here, folks.
- Take your empty hyperbole elsewhere, my anonymous friend. Czarist Russia wasn't exactly a democratic wonderland. Pogroms, serfdom (abolished by Alexander II, but obviously too late to decisively appease the growing opposition) and deportations to Siberia. I can't blame the red Russians for revolting, even though the new regime came to develop a system of oppression of its own devise. Jonas Liljeström (talk) 12:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- How does that justify the brutal murder of defenseless women who had no political power or real relation to the situation at hand? Murder is the proper word, as chasing someone around the room with a bayonet is not an "execution". You speak of hyperbole, but you changed the meaning of the situation so that its political. If this were political, it seems like they would have only killed the Czar and perhaps his heir. Tell me: What did their servants and doctor do to deserve being shot and stabbed to death? Any references to the killings of these people, besides "murder" is simply whitewashing. By Russian law, the Romanovs are considered victims of political repression; no less murdered than those killed in Nazi concentration camps. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 00:19, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Any sources proving that his grandfather was a Rebbe and his father was a criminal? 71.252.104.108 21:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
You'll will only find that information in czarist and antisemitic books. 19:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Poor Research
The Yurovsky family were Russian Orthodox. This is very poorly researched.
The above comment is confirmed by the content of one of the links in the article itself http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/yurovski_bio.html
Authors should read their own sources before submitting articles. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SMBreitstein (talk • contribs) 11:24, August 20, 2007 (UTC).
- Duly noted. I've changed "Jewish" to "Russian Orthodox" in the article. Jonas Liljeström (talk) 12:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- The boxes at the bottom of the page still mention a non-Greek denomination.
- Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out! Jonas Liljeström (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Needs More Work
I corrected a couple of minor factual errors. Unfortunately, there is a reference to questionable, probably forged documents relating to the execution squad. Researchers are now able to determine more facts relating to the execution. This page really should be re-evalutated for accuracy. Kate Singh.
I recently read: "The Fate of the Romanovs" by Greg King and Penny Wilson (Wiley, 2003) that suggests that Yurovsky's death was due to a heart attack, and not an ulcer. Although, the text did mention the fact he had an ulcer at the time he died.
SunflowerseedSari 02:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Needs to stay objective
I edited out the word "scumbags" after the term Bolsheviks. I don't feel that is appropriate here. Katcelata (talk) 22:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)