Talk:Yeah 3x

Title

Isn't this song called "Yeah 3×"? Yves (talk) 00:35, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

Yeah 3X → Yeah 3× — I moved this article to "Yeah 3×" awhile ago, and it was moved back to "Yeah 3X" by User:Candyo32: "Title of the song per single cover." X and × are going to look nearly identical when printed in most fonts... the title is read as "Yeah 3 Times", not "Yeah 3 X" (as made clear from the "yeah yeah yeah" hook in the song), which is why the title I moved it to is more appropriate. –Chase (talk / contribs) 03:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Strongly support: raised the same question above earlier. Correct name of the song; it's not "yeah three ex". Yves (talk) 03:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
• The cover is clearly an X, not a times symbol. Do you have a reliable source on the pronunciation? Powers ^T 03:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what you mean by "clearly": in most fonts, including the one used on the cover, x and a times symbol are nearly, if not completely, identical. Can't find any reliable sources showing that the song is pronounced "Yeah 3 Times", but likewise, can't find any that show it's pronounced "Yeah 3 X". "Yeah 3 X" makes no sense, especially when the hook is the word "yeah" being said 3 times. WP:COMMONSENSE applies. –Chase (talk / contribs) 04:03, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Graphic designers often lack typographical accuracy: people may not know there is a different unicode for the multiplication symbol, and if they do, it takes effort to find what it is. On album covers and articles, Beyoncé's name is spelled many times without the acute accent as is Céline Dion's, even in French ([1], [2], [3]), where it is present on the keyboard . Yves (talk) 04:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
• The times symbol always uses right angles. If they aren't right angles, it's an X. Powers ^T 12:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• So when you go to the hardware store you're buying "2 ex 4"s? Because that's how it's always written on sales tags. Yves (talk) 20:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Support I raised a similar question at the FLC of CB's discography. It is clear from the reviews of the song, that its "yeah, yeah, yeah" and hence "Yeah 3×" is the actual title. "Yeah 3X" actually makes no sense and neither should we be naming articles based on the font in single covers. For eg, Kesha's one song has the name on the cover as "TiK ToK", but we rationalise it as per WP:CAPS, and its now "Tik Tok". — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:25, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose it should be "Yeah Three Times" (or something similar) "×" is a decorative symbol, and as LOL :-) or Hermann ♥'s Pauline must be avoided. Tbh®tch^{Talk ©} Happy Holidays 04:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• It's not decorative. The "×" symbol, with or without the context of this song title, is generally meant to be read out loud as "times"... it's not like ":-)" and "♥", which don't have a pronunciation, substituting for "Smiley Face" and "Heart". –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

is 'generally meant to be read out loud as "times". Actually "♥" has a pronunciation "heart". If we cannot type "×", why we'll call the article Yeah 3×? Just because Yeah 3x redirect there, does not means that is correct. Moreover the cover shows it as 3X (even if the cover probably was meant to shown ×). Tbh®tch^{Talk ©} Happy Holidays 21:06, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

"♥" can also be pronounced "love" or "loves". Yves (talk) 02:18, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose because how the hell do I type that thing? A lowercase x seems like a reasonable alternative. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 05:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• "Yeah 3x" would redirect here... regardless, it's not a matter of your ability to correctly type it, it's a matter of titling the article properly. –Chase (talk / contribs) 16:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Everyone else calls the song "Yeah 3X" (or "Yeah 3x"). The official single cover also uses an 'X'. It's not up to us to decide how to spell the title, it was released as "Yeah 3X", not "Yeah 3×". Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

• So would you be saying Billboard, other magazines, newspapers, and official chart companies spelling it "Jason Derulo" instead of "Jason Derülo" make that correct? Or single covers that incorrectly spell "Beyoncé"? Yves (talk) 02:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Apple uses Jason Derülo and Beyoncé. I haven't checked other sources but it wouldn't surprise me if some of them used proper typography, too. Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Strongly Oppose - Per single cover. If they wanted it "Yeah 3×" surely they would have listed as such. Candyo32 02:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Typographical accuracy is not something a lot of people excel at. Not many people know the fraction one-half is incorrectly written "1 / 2"; it should be "1 ⁄ 2" or "¹⁄₂" with a solidus and not a slash. Yves (talk) 02:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• You have a point, except surely a lower case 'x' is closer to a '×', and the cover artists would have used "Yeah 3x" that if the title were "Yeah 3×". Under that circumstance I would concede. But it is a capital 'X' being used, which is different. Do you see what I mean? Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• You are correct, but a lowercase "x" is not vertically centred, but rests on the baseline. Looking at the slot the character encompasses, an uppercase "X" is vertically and horizontally centred and symmetrical. Yves (talk) 02:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)