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The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John Mitzewich

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Nothing establishes real notability. Written in a promotional tone, with no reliable, secondary sources. (Author contested prod). OSborn^arf_contribs. 14:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Chicago Tribune, August 6, 2008: "One of the most popular video cooks however is John Mitzewich of YouTube fame." The San Jose Mercury News published an in-depth profile of him on February 9, 2011. He's notable, and shortcomings in the article can be addressed through normal editing rather than deletion. Cullen328 (talk) 16:15, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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There are additional articles to substantiate if needed. For instance this Bay Area Living Article is from a small time news establishment but it does establish the fact that he is "big time." Someone with more knowledge of him should be able to fill in the obvious gaps. Enburst (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That's a reprint of the Mercury News article. Cullen328 (talk) 21:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 11:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete non notable cook. Wouldn't be on here if it weren't for the systemic bias in favour of people who do things virtually rather than in their own location. MLA (talk) 12:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment What matters is not our own personal opinions about systemic bias and virtual chefs, but rather what the reliable sources say about Mitzewich. This sort of in-depth coverage is what notability is all about: YouTube foodie John Mitzewich embraces Valentine's Day, San Jose Mercury News, February 9, 2011 This is the newspaper of record for the Silicon Valley. Bottom line - he's notable.Cullen328 (talk) 21:23, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Despite starting as a "virtual" youtube poster and blogger, there is now substantial coverage outside his blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gromgull (talk • contribs) 07:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another reference YouTube viewers turn chefs into unlikely stars, San Francisco Chronicle, January 13, 2011 Cullen328 (talk) 21:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Chef John should have a wiki entry, he is a great blogger, if Philip DeFranco can have one without question, so should Chef John. Sethlife — Sethlife (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Keep references in prominent sources seem to establish notability pretty indisputably. -- 16:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by InspectorTiger (talk • contribs)

Keep Wikipedia have many pages with less-notable persons. Chef John is great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.148.242.6 (talk) 16:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' non notable cook.  Wouldn't be on here if it weren't for the systemic bias in favour of people who do things virtually rather than in their own location. [[User:MLA|MLA]] ([[User talk:MLA|talk]]) 12:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 *'''Comment'''  What matters is not our own personal opinions about systemic bias and virtual chefs, but rather what the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about Mitzewich.  This sort of in-depth coverage is what notability is all about: [http://www.mercurynews.com/food-wine/ci_17319582?source=rss&nclick_check=1 YouTube foodie John Mitzewich embraces Valentine's Day, San Jose Mercury News, February 9, 2011]  This is the newspaper of record for the Silicon Valley.  Bottom line - he's notable.[[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 21:23, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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