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The meaning of 'aviation crash'

This is not an article about an aircraft incident we are talking about incident when the plane has crashed. and the drone that was shown on tv (that was confirmed by US officials) was not a drone that had an accident but rather brought down with no damages. The seizing of the UAV was done by IRGC and the regular army of Iran - Mehrnia -

Any change of downing to crash will get reported to the moderators. 'There is no crashing here otherwise we would see the US drone in 100 pieces on TV. Stop editing please - Mehrnia )-

By both Iranian and US official accounts, the UAV in question crashed. I refer you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents where aviation crash is defined as "an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft which takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and all such persons have disembarked, in which a person is fatally or seriously injured, the aircraft sustains damage or structural failure or the aircraft is missing or is completely inaccessible." The UAV presented on Iranian television has sustained damage, therefore the aircraft in question has crashed. Furthermore, no evidence has been presented that the UAV has been downed. If you have evidence that the aircraft has been downed, please add it to the wiki page. --Bronzmajom (talk) 04:46, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox military conflict

Is the presence of this infobox even needed? It isn't a military conflict. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 14:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Merge proposal

merge to Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel

Oppose for now. The political back and forth doesn't belong in an article about the platform itself, and this may expand into a larger diplomatic debacle. Suggest revisiting the merge proposal in a few months. --76.18.43.253 (talk) 16:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Oppose" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.64.219.3 (talk) 20:08, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Daily Show unlikely, potential resource; The Atlantic

Jon Stewart's Theory on How a U.S. Spy Drone Wound Up In Iran by Erik Hayden 8.December.2011

99.56.122.24 (talk) 08:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Object shown is disputed

Some have begun to dispute whether that is the actual drone or a mockup. They say the drone shouldve smashed to bits essentially when it crashed and could not be in that good quality. [1] I dont know much about this, so Ill just leave the link here.--Metallurgist (talk) 10:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[Special:Contributions/99.56.122.24|99.56.122.24]] ([[User talk:99.56.122.24|talk]]) 08:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
+== Object shown is disputed ==
+Some have begun to dispute whether that is the actual drone or a mockup. They say the drone shouldve smashed to bits essentially when it crashed and could not be in that good quality. [http://the-diplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2011/12/09/irans-drone-fake/] I dont know much about this, so Ill just leave the link here.--[[User:Metallurgist|Metallurgist]] ([[User talk:Metallurgist|talk]]) 10:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)