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Proposed deletion of Simon R. Gladdish

The article Simon R. Gladdish has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 00:23, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your article

Riccardito, please, do not publish your article about Simon R. Gladdish here. That's the wrong place; I have already moved it to Simon R. Gladdish once. Please, make your edits to the latter page. In a short time I'll have to delete Wikipedia:WikiProject Keep It Simple, but I don't want you to lose your work, so, please, copy and paste it on Simon R. Gladdish. If you need any further help, please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 00:47, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beneath you'll find the text of your article. Please, add it to Simon R. Gladdish and not to Wikipedia:WikiProject Keep It Simple. That's not the correct place to publish your article...

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^[1] Carl Van Raay ^[1] The Price of Passion ^[1] Dany Post Colours of Istanbul

Simon R. Gladdish is a British poet and was born in Kampala, Uganda in 1957. His family returned to Britain in 1961, to Reading where he grew up. Educated at University College Oxford and Fitzwilliam College Cambridge Universities, he trained as an English Language Teacher, a profession which enabled him to live and work for many years in Spain, France, Turkey, Tunisia and Kuwait. Domiciled near Swansea since 1992, he has no plans to return to the land of his father. In 1999 Poet Laureate Andrew Motion wrote to him saying 'I love the energy of your poems.' Simon strongly believes that poetry ought to be enjoyable, entertaining and enlightening.

He has written and has had published ten collections of poetry and one of aphorisms which are available on Amazon Kindle Works that have captured the public's imagination are, Back to Basics, Images of Istanbul, Seasonal Affective Disorder and Homage to Edward Lear: 250 Limericks ' A selection of poems from Images of Istanbul are featured in the travel book Colours of Istanbul by the Dutch photographer, Dany Post, and have also appeared in The Price of Passion, by best selling Australian author Carla Van Raay.

In tone his poems range from humour to cynicism to naked, unashamed romanticism. Simon R Gladdish lives near Swansea with his wife the artist, Rusty Gladdish.

Cheers. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 01:30, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Riccardito. You have new messages at Salvio giuliano's talk page.
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Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 14:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And again. Cheers. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 00:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

February 2012

Your addition has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. 99.12.241.215 (talk) 14:32, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps WP:COI is relevant here, too.... 99.12.241.215 (talk) 14:32, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with copyright!!!!

Hello Salvio

Many apologies for using incorrect information. I am still on a very steep learning curve. I have re-edited the article again and removed some new information in case this breaches copyright laws on Wiki.

Regards from Riccardito (talk) 15:33, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Salvio

Is it possible to remove the fourth tag on my article please? I think I now understand the problem and will try to see that it doesn't happen again. However, it's very disappointing to see that after all my hours of work trying to teach myself how to insert quote boxes, info boxes, and insert photos correctly whilst adhereing to the strict Wikipedia rules that this tag is now on my article. I am now working on citations and external references for the article. It would be good to hear from you when you have a moment.

Regards Riccardito (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you're referring to the peacock tag, it's there for good reason:

Heavily influenced by Victorian geniuses like Robert Browning, Lewis Carroll and Edward FitzGerald (poet), his poetry is lyrical, philosophical and frequently very funny. His second book, Back to Basics (1996), is a Z-A Abecedary of amusing poems 'for children, intelligent adults and extra-terrestrials'.

He is a master of most poetic forms from the Haiku in English to the Clerihew and in the 21st century has made a major contribution to the limerick (poetry) form with his companion volumes:- Homage to Edward Lear: 250 Libellous Limericks & Hillimericks. Hillimericks is a hilarious lengthy satirical account of the American Presidential Primaries 2008 written entirely in rhyming limericks.

His poetry, although apparently traditional, is often innovatory in terms of stanza shape and in 1997 he stretched the haiku form by inventing the 'tie-break haiku' which is a three line poem composed of twenty words or fewer (including the title). In the same year he also wrote his long poem on the nature of Time, Seasonal Affective Disorder, which is both a philosophic meditation and a serious attempt to revive the moribund tradition of epic poetry.

His profound sense impressions of his experiences in this, one of the most exotic and fascinating cities in the world, were the guiding force behind his books:- Images of Istanbul & Original Cliches.

None of this is sourced, and most is written in a promotional tone, hence the implication that you are close to the subject. For the record, I removed the apparent copyright violations. Apparently the article has been up for two weeks, and it still doesn't have a single reliable source to support notability. In this vein WP:AUTHOR is the relevant guideline. Thank you, 99.12.241.215 (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Salvio

Thanks for your prompt reply! Thank you also for your constructive comments. I have now read through your remarks and also the WP Author guidelines. I can amend the article and make it more objective and factual (plus search for more references etc as mentioned previously). I write reviews and short stories so perhaps my writing style does tend to adversely influence the tone. I do actually know the subject and perhaps I should point out that I am female. (I used a male username because all the names I put in kept coming up 'already in use') For people new to Wikipedia editing it can be quite daunting but a great challenge too. Have a nice evening.

Regards Riccardito (talk) 17:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Riccardito, I understand that editing Wikipedia can be confusing for the newcomer--I'm not Salvio, but a different user who's come across the article. You need not reveal any personal information here, though it was fairly obvious that conflict of interest was likely. You're a fine writer, but one of the cornerstones of an encyclopedia is the adherence to neutrality of tone; another is the necessity of reliable sources. Favorable qualitative statements that are unreferenced look promotional--i.e., from whence derives the assessment that he's a master of poetic forms, is innovatory, is reviving a moribund tradition, and that his work is amusing and hilarious? Even a compliment taken from a personal letter is problematic as a source--people often write assessments privately, but we must rely on that which has been shared publicly. Unless Mr. Gladdish is himself the subject of multiple articles, then notability is still under question, hence the maintenance templates amassing atop the article. If you can find reliable sources please add them, they'll help immensely. Thanks, 99.12.241.215 (talk) 20:12, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello

I have amended and deleted some items in the article to make it more neutral. As I am a newbie hopefully people will be patient while I research the references. However I will continue o expand the article. Thank you.

Riccardito (talk) 23:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Simon R. Gladdish

The article Simon R. Gladdish has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Doesn't appear notable; primarily promotional in tone, with likely conflict of interest; Google search doesn't look helpful: [1]

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. 99.12.241.215 (talk) 13:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but the article is still pretty blatantly non-neutral, and lacks verifiable sources to support notability, let alone the numerous claims, as shown above. 99.12.241.215 (talk) 13:40, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please remove the deletetion tag from my article. I view it as unnecessarily draconian as I am still working on the article to improve it. I have been in continual communication with you and consider your actions, rightly or wrongly, to be extremely unfair. I am not able to work on the article 24/7 and need more time.

Riccardito (talk) 23:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, given the numerous warnings and suggestions over the past two weeks, the multiple article issues, and the continued lack of reliable sources to support any of the article's specific claims, or the broader issue of notability, the template is not at all unfair. At the moment it's a step up from a vanity piece. Should it be removed I'd suggest a WP:AFD process, where other editors are invited to weigh in. What you can do, should the article be deleted--and there's no presumption that it will be--is move it to a user work space [2] and continue working on it there, adding sources which would remove the current concerns. 99.12.242.7 (talk) 03:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello

I have been trying to add/insert 2 more references to my list but keep getting the red cite error message. I have been putting in

==References==

^ ^a ^b ^c Cite error: The named reference undefined was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

The number appears but not the text. Any answers?

Thanks

Riccardito (talk) 17:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the references are not first added inline using this ^[1], then the reflist won't show them. But initially I wouldn't worry about the inline cites, and just add the references individually at the end of the article. They'll be most effective if they link to online sources that support the content. 99.12.242.7 (talk) 17:24, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your additional constructive comments. I may take your advice and move the article to the link you suggest and work on it there. I have spent this afternoon working on it. There needs to be some re-writing and I am trying to include more relevant links and references. Although the Reflist is proving to be a problem but nothing that can't be solved.

Regards from

Riccardito (talk) 17:27, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Yesterday afternoon my article was vandalised by someone who had changed it into nonsense. Today the 'Works' part has been deleted. Trawling through Wiki I have seen many sub standard articles which do not adhere to the rules and guidelines and in comparison with those I believe that my article stands up as relevant. Wikipwedia indeed is a dark and powerful place. Sadly, I have not received any communication via my email address from any editor and am beginning to feel slightly victimised.

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I have also noticed that the few ratings I had have been tampered with and have been changed!

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