Talk:OpenOffice.org

A database management program similar to Microsoft Access.

Whatever that means, it doesn't mean the same thing as

"A spreadsheet similar to Microsoft Excel and Lotus 1-2-3." (Calc)

or

"A word processor similar to Microsoft Word and WordPerfect." (Writer)

So the statement is confusing and inconsistant with the rest of the table.

Calc is used like and as a replacement for Excel. Writer is used like and as a replacement for Word.

Base is not used as an alternative for Access or Framemaker or Crystal Reports. That is because it still has really limited functionality compared to those products. The most important working functionality is as a data connector. Base has got other stuff as well, but it's not very well developed. So Base is not really similar to Microsoft Access, which works as a data connector but is most importantly a report writer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.214.18.240 (talk) 11:33, 18 February 2011

screenshot os

once apache relases aoo 3.4 i think we should change the openoffice screenshots from apache-open-office (aoo) running in ubuntu to aoo running in windows.

my rationale is that aoo is soon to become primarily a windows app. all linux distros have abandoned it and moved to libreoffice, therfore the article should not show aoo running ubuntu because this is misleading and not the most repsentative example of the aoo interface.

what do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123465421jhytwretpo98721654 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

requirements

I suppose that would be nice to add requirements of program depending of version of package &/without Java--Albedo ^@ 20:45, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

easter egg

Are the easter eggs in the spreadsheet worth mentioning--Commander v99 (talk) 20:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

No per WP:TRIVIA and WP:NOT. This should be added to any external web page listing cheats, easter eggs and similar stuff. This is an encyclopedia. ;-) mabdul 13:18, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

OpenOffice.org → Apache OpenOffice – The project has been officially renamed: [[1]]. Clconway (talk) 16:46, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. mabdul 17:30, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Well, the "common name" is OpenOffice, not OpenOffice.org. The ".org" is just an official branding wart, the same as "Apache". Anyway, we can expect Apache OpenOffice to overtake OpenOffice.org as the more common name in good time, as Jakew suggests below—there's no reason to expect users to stubbornly stick with the ungainly OpenOffice.org. Clconway (talk) 19:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL is a pretty good reason not to "expect" it. I didn't say OpenOffice.org was or was not the commonly used name, but "Apache OpenOffice" sure isn't, and I have very strong doubts that this would change any time soon. - SudoGhost 19:44, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

See below for some data. Clconway (talk) 22:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose - Per WP:COMMONNAME, articles titles are determined by the name most commonly used by English language reliable sources; articles titles are not determined by any official name (or renaming, in this case). - SudoGhost 17:57, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. However, it seems possible (perhaps even likely) that sources will start to refer to the project using the new name. I'd therefore suggest that it would be wise to reconsider the name in, say, a year. Jakew (talk) 18:09, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
• Move to OpenOffice for the time being instead. The most concise, common name should be preferable. I still disagree with the current article title because the subject of the page is a software program, not a web site per se. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

The name change took effect in December. Here are the results of some Google News searches as of May 4, 2012:

• "openoffice.org -apache": 65 results, including many phrases such as "LibreOffice and its ancestor OpenOffice.org".
• "openoffice -openoffice.org": 182 results, including sources such as ZD Net, PC Magazine, and IT World.
• "apache openoffice" (phrase): 12 results, most duplicated from above.

Per WP:COMMON, I think the common name is in fact OpenOffice. I still support a move to Apache OpenOffice, as it is the proper name and sufficiently similar to the "common name" to avoid confusion. Clconway (talk) 22:21, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Another point for discussion: it's incongruous to have the lede, the InfoBox and the logo image all read "Apache OpenOffice" when the title is "OpenOffice.org". If the consensus is not to move the article, what should we do to avoid confusion? Should the lede be "OpenOffice.org, commonly known as..." Clconway (talk) 22:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)