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Since they have been merged black and white rhino pages should be deleted as they are redundant.--[[Special:Contributions/203.192.91.4|203.192.91.4]] ([[User talk:203.192.91.4|talk]]) 09:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC) |
Since they have been merged black and white rhino pages should be deleted as they are redundant.--[[Special:Contributions/203.192.91.4|203.192.91.4]] ([[User talk:203.192.91.4|talk]]) 09:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Northern White Rhino == |
=== Northern White Rhino === |
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While Wikipedians may decide to merge the Northern and Southern White Rhino articles into a single page, it is critical to note that there are distinct conservation efforts directed towards both. It is quite misleading to the casual observer to see that the northern white rhino is not clearly listed as critically endangered in the right-hand panel. By all accounts, there are no more than 20 alive! I searched for "Northern White Rhino" after reading "Last Chance to See" by Douglas Adams, and was surprised to learn that there was not a distinct page dedicated to this animal. Due to the extremity of the situation I believe the northern white rhino deserves a substantially clear amount of explanation. Furthermore, the only reference on wikipedia quoting the number of northern white rhinos currently alive is a BBC webpage. It is very likely that page contains outdated information. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ian7208|Ian7208]] ([[User talk:Ian7208|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ian7208|contribs]]) 08:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
While Wikipedians may decide to merge the Northern and Southern White Rhino articles into a single page, it is critical to note that there are distinct conservation efforts directed towards both. It is quite misleading to the casual observer to see that the northern white rhino is not clearly listed as critically endangered in the right-hand panel. By all accounts, there are no more than 20 alive! I searched for "Northern White Rhino" after reading "Last Chance to See" by Douglas Adams, and was surprised to learn that there was not a distinct page dedicated to this animal. Due to the extremity of the situation I believe the northern white rhino deserves a substantially clear amount of explanation. Furthermore, the only reference on wikipedia quoting the number of northern white rhinos currently alive is a BBC webpage. It is very likely that page contains outdated information. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ian7208|Ian7208]] ([[User talk:Ian7208|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ian7208|contribs]]) 08:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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=== redundant information === |
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I added a "repetition" template at the top of the "northern white rhino" section because a lot of the same information is stated in slightly different ways in each sub-section. The stand-alone northern white rhino article is more organized and, in my opinion, should be kept, while most of the specifics about the remaining northern whites, and conservation efforts should be removed from this article, and replaced with a quick mention and a link to the stand-alone page on the subjects. The northern white should probably have a section approximately the size of the southern white section. |
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== Contradiction == |
== Contradiction == |
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White Rhino Size
Why is there so little information about these animals size and weight? Because they havent got enough money to funf these experiments. Thw weight sounds bullshit. On average, this rhino weighs 2.2 tons. So, the theoretically maximum weight should be around 4 tons. 4.5 tons is completely unimaginable. Must be a hoax.
Anyway, white rhino is larger than hippo for sure. The hippo weight: 4500kg, is really an exaggeration.
- Never seen more than 3,600 kg in scientific literature; some have had it as low as 2,300 kg, but this appears to be the average. Modern literature puts the hippo's maximum between 2,500–3,200 kg (some zoological journal gave 2,664 kg as the recorded maximum), with an average of 1,600 kg for males. 4,500 kg for either species is gross exaggeration – the Asian Elephant has a maximum of 5,400 kg in the wild and 6,198 kg in captivity. --Anshelm '77 (talk) 00:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I find the comment, 'largest land MAMMAL after the elephants' (my emphasis) to be quite underwhelming. What other land animal would be bigger? Lukebulger (talk) 11:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Additional Reference
There is a LOT of information on the northern white rhino in a journal article by Avant (2004) which I used in order to add a history section to the Garamba National Park Wikipedia article. The full reference is available on the Garamba page. Includes a great deal of information on the politics of the effort to save the rhinos, as well as detailed information on poaching in Garamba National Park. Definitely worth some additional gleaning, which I do not have time to do now. N2e 20:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Megafauna
"[The White Rhino] is one of the few megafaunal species left."
- According to Megafauna, the common classification includes all animals heavier than a labrador (including humans). I don't see how this sentence can be true, unless there are rhinos which aren't megafauna. Is there a source?
--Carbon Rodney 08:39, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Proposed merge
I'd like to propose merging the articles Southern White Rhinoceros and Northern White Rhinoceros into the article White Rhinoceros. My reason is pretty straightforward—if we keep these as three separate articles there will be tremendous overlap in their content. The Northern and Southern White rhinoceroses are subspecies of the White Rhinoceros, as such, the majority of information about one applies to the other. Eventually, it would be great to get White Rhinoceros to featured article status, and merging this information would be a good start. I want to be very clear: my goal with this proposal is to remove absolutely no information whatsoever. The complete contents of each subspecies article will be included at White Rhinoceros. My goal is only to reduce redundant content. As best I can tell, all Featured Articles about animals are written at the species level, with subsections on subspecies. This seems to me like a good standard to pursue. --JayHenry 17:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Support merge...sort of. I'm sure much material is identical and for the most part species are taken as a fairly index point to have a comprehensive article. You could start by just restructuring and importing material anyway without officially merging.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Support again sort of, the northern white rhino and southern white rhino articles should be merged because diet, behavior, ecology, ect. will all overlap. Conservation of the Northern White Rhino however is a significant issue and deserves to be maintained as a separate article. SeanBBSc 04:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC) Sean
- I would like to deal with conservation of the northern white rhino, in great detail, in this article. Because the northern white is so rare the vast majority of science on the subspecies is conservation related anyways and that can all be included here. --JayHenry 04:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- Two subspecies of White Rhino should be merged into one article. As most people dont even know their is two sub species. They are closely related so alot is the smae but it would also make comparison of differences easier--Big5Hunter 11:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
merge update
I went ahead and merged Southern White Rhinoceros. As the type subspecies it'd really be fully redundant. I think Sean makes an interesting point about conservation of Northern Whites. I'm willing to leave that for now as I haven't done the research yet to say how much there is. Been focusing on Javan Rhinoceros for now... --JayHenry 04:59, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Since they have been merged black and white rhino pages should be deleted as they are redundant.--203.192.91.4 (talk) 09:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Northern White Rhino
While Wikipedians may decide to merge the Northern and Southern White Rhino articles into a single page, it is critical to note that there are distinct conservation efforts directed towards both. It is quite misleading to the casual observer to see that the northern white rhino is not clearly listed as critically endangered in the right-hand panel. By all accounts, there are no more than 20 alive! I searched for "Northern White Rhino" after reading "Last Chance to See" by Douglas Adams, and was surprised to learn that there was not a distinct page dedicated to this animal. Due to the extremity of the situation I believe the northern white rhino deserves a substantially clear amount of explanation. Furthermore, the only reference on wikipedia quoting the number of northern white rhinos currently alive is a BBC webpage. It is very likely that page contains outdated information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian7208 (talk • contribs) 08:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
redundant information
I added a "repetition" template at the top of the "northern white rhino" section because a lot of the same information is stated in slightly different ways in each sub-section. The stand-alone northern white rhino article is more organized and, in my opinion, should be kept, while most of the specifics about the remaining northern whites, and conservation efforts should be removed from this article, and replaced with a quick mention and a link to the stand-alone page on the subjects. The northern white should probably have a section approximately the size of the southern white section.
Contradiction
I added the contradiction-tag to the "In Zoos" section because it contradicts what is written in the Northern White Rhinoceros article. According to this article, the population in San Diego IS breeding and the male there is NOT the only one in existence. In addition, I removed info about Southern White Rinos in captivity; considering there are a total of more than 750, I don't see why the ones mentioned are notable. Preslav (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Another Contradiction
As of August 14, 2010, both the White Rhinoceros and the Indian Rhinoceros are listed as being the largest rhinoceros on their respective pages. Thegoldenconciseencyclopediaofmammals (talk) 20:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
no disambiguation page?
This isn't what most people mean when they say white rhino —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.94.93 (talk) 17:27, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- What else could be called that? Richard New Forest (talk) 18:45, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
- "White rhino" is also a type of marijuana. I think our anonymous commenter is just joking around. --JayHenry (talk) 22:19, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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