User talk:Elf

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• Archive dogs (dog-article related topics)
• Archive Calif (California-related topics)
• Archive 1 (assorted newbie stuff & tips, mineral project, kudos & thanks, misc )
• Archive 2
• Archive 3 (random stuff through June '05)
• Archive 4 (random stuff through Feb '06; might sort thru it later)

Sleet Versus Hail

Yes, what you've been seeing in California IS hail. SLEET falls with winter storms, not thunderstorms. As a professional meteorologist, I don't know how many times I've wanted to slap people for getting sleet and hail confused (the people on the sleet page among them ;-) ). You virtually never get sleet out in California, but hail occurs fairly often. On the other hand, sleet is much more common in New York. Check out this graphic [[1]] for SLEET, and this page [[2]] for HAIL formation. Also, here's another good page on the differences [[3]]. Famartin 15:49, 4 March 2006

Double redirect cleanup award

For your help with the May 16, 2005 double redirect cleanup project you are given this award.

Cool song

I heard you wrote this [4]? Nice! Radiant_>|< 14:57, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

For excellent edit after edit after edit after edit, I award you the Tireless Contributor award.

By the way, your dogs are adorable, especially Jake! smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 20:43, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! By the way, if it is your birthday, Happy Birthday! smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 21:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Meet The World's Smallest Police Dog

[5] (—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SirIsaacBrock (talk • contribs) .

Copyrights for Boggle Photo

Sorry about not citing. I took the photos myself and forgot that I had to release the rights from myself. Hope all is good now. Black arrow 01:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

reworked boggle

sorry about the problems I was causing. I put the copyright info in the drop down and not in the body as well. Now hopefully all is good. Black arrow 05:17, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

tons

In your edit summary on Zion National Park in response to by editorial comment in the article about identity of tons, you said "short ton if it came from any american documentation which seems 98% likely".

However, if it in fact came directly from an American soils sciences journal or most any other scientific source, its about a 98% chance that the tons are metric tons (they might, of course, be "Mg" (megagrams) in a journal like that). Gene Nygaard 03:36, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

cite journal

Hi. I found your message on template talk:cite journal#authorlink is broken. I responded there. Please have a look. Sorry for being so late (better late than never ;-). --Adrian Buehlmann 16:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Yests

Not at all. Thanks for the edits. BTW, what is the protocol, does one normally reply on their own talk page or on that of the other party (like this).--Counsel 05:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Manzanita

Hi Elf - curious why you said "can't have 3rd-level header w/out 2nd-level" - it is perfectly possible to have this, and it looks a lot better without the heavily underlined 2nd-level header in a short page like that - MPF 22:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Keep up the good work! :-) MPF 22:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

9 days is a close one! AFAIK, the only appearnce effects I can think of is in a TOC, which only appears when there's more than 3 headers (when funny things happen to the numbering in the TOC). In my browser, 2nd level headers give an ugly underline right across the page, making it look like a much more complete change of subject (like a line of 4 hyphens); it would be nice if the refs/ext links could also take a 3rd level header, but 2nd level headers seem (unlike other headers) to be a definite wiki policy (so I leave them!). Maybe I should raise it at wherever header policy is discussed and get 3rd levels OK'd for short articles - MPF 22:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Min Pin

Hello Elf.

I normally agree with most of your changes, but you made a change to the Minpin page that I disagree with.

There was an external link I placed on the page a year ago for a rescue organization. The link has been there virtually since the inception of the page, so I guess I am a bit confused why you would suddenly think that it should be removed.

I understand WP:NOT, but I going to replace the link for two reaons: 1) It is informative and 2) Its been there for almost a year and a half. I do not think that 2 links is a problem.

Roodog2k [[User_talk:Roodog2k | (Hello there!)]] 19:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Min Pin, part 2

I would disagree, only because if a rescue organization is large and notable, I do not see why it cannot be included. I understand that things change over time. I guess that I am not quite following what you're saying. :(

Roodog2k [[User_talk:Roodog2k | (Hello there!)]] 20:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Replying to Raw feeding article editing advice

Thanks for taking the time to write an explanation of your editorial policy. The article that I first edited appeared to be exclusively angled at dog feeders and excessively biased towards processed feed manufacturers. Now that you have explained that it is "controversial" it will need much more attention and work to even begin to contain a fair picture of the amount of spin that is put out by manufacturers against any form of feeding except their own product.

The Salon.com article is an op ed that appears to have been undertaken for "colour". Do you seriously consider that a quote mined with third party references is worth throwing in? I can produce ten times these within a few minutes. But will they increase understanding of the basic "nutrition" argument? Your selected quote really says nothing more than that the British vet association agrees that there are dangers in feeding raw food. It doesn't say that other forms of feeding are NOT dangerous. And it doesn't say that raw feeding cannot be accomplished safely. Take the quote down please.

Two questions: Do you derive income from dog training, breeding?

                        Do you derive income from a pet feed manufacturer?

I am an Australian and you will have to allow for cultural differences in the approach to feeding animals that I may inject into the article.

Moving discussion to Talk:Raw feeding. Elf | Talk 20:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

extra question on Raw feeding editing

Can you explain why some .com external references are ok to include and why others are not?

The explanation should have some basis in where a .com site gets its income from. Thanks.

extra on Raw feeding editing

No, I'm not tired - Ha!

The previous 2 articles in your talk list, plus this one are my own work

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Min Pin part 3

OK, I reread what you said. I think we're crossing wires on this conversation, b/c your page keeps changing after I type something. :P

I placed the link there not to endorse the rescue effort per se, rather to 1) demonstrate that it exists and 2) providing alternate breed information. You have to excuse me today, as I just retured from vacation and have been nicotine free for 5 days, so I'm a little frayed. That rescue group provides some breed information.

Also, I try to get on Wikipedia as often as possible to see how this page and a few others are doing. Sadly, my job frowns heavily on Wikipeida work, and I have little time to devote to Wikipedia at home b/c of family obligations. So, if vandalism has appeared on this page for any stretch of time and I missed it, my apologies.

Roodog2k [[User_talk:Roodog2k | (Hello there!)]]

Edits

Thanks for the edits.--Counsel 21:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hunting Dog

Think those were too long? You made me stay up late; how can I pass up a hunting dog article that needs attention?!--Counsel 07:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

SR 85

The proposed move was to California State Highway 85, not to State Route 85 (California). The latter fits disambiguation conventions, as there is no such thing as "California State Route 85". --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 22:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Black dog

My dog.

Sorry about that. Is that your dog? It looks identical to my dog. Do you have any other photos? Toertn 22:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

Hey there--It looks to me as if you've around on Wikipedia long enough to have encountered disambiguation pages and to have read the manual of style page on disambiguation pages, so I'm not sure why you keep futzing with the Martingale page to make it nonstandard. It's just a disambiguation page; there's nothing special about the introductory phrase that needs nonstandard formatting or phrasing. If you're annoyed because it's no longer the primary page about a mathematical topic, I'm sorry. It's still just a standard disambiguation page. Elf | Talk 00:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Why must disambiguation pages be a special exception to the standard rule that if one writes about a word, rather than using the word to write about what it refers to, then one italicizes it? That rule is stated in Wikipedia:Manual of Style and I think in the Chicago Manual of Style. Michael Hardy 00:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Elf

Hello Elf, I could certainly use the support of an administrator for my admin nomination. One more admin helping the dog project would be a good thing -:) Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Nomination cabal/SirIsaacBrock Cordially SirIsaacBrock 23:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Message rec'd... check out the article I just wrote Monkey-baiting SirIsaacBrock 22:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

i am sorry for our conflict on the dobermann section, but i refuse to back down from the truth, the truth is more important than pleasing the public, wouldn't you agree

Dog ancestry'

Opinion request: I notice the dog article has a section on the ancestory of the dog as a wolf. Do you feel it might be time to create a separate article Origins of the dog or of similiar title? Cordially SirIsaacBrock 17:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Will respond on Talk:Dog. Elf | Talk 20:46, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Your wikibreak

Your wikibreak is about like my wikibreak :) - Trysha <sup>(talk)</sup> 09:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Caps

Thanks for the correction. In one of my books the author (Charles Fergus) asserts that only references to proper nouns should be capitalized in breed names i.e. Boykin spaniel or Labrador retriever or poodle. I was about to ask a question about it on the dog project as I could not find a Wikipedia policy. I will stick with the caps from here on in.--Counsel 23:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Yea, I think the capitalization is better. When it is lowercase it catches your eye as being out of place. I think the Wikipolicy is the right way to go. BTW I worried abouot disturbing you Wikibreak by working on the dog pages :)--Counsel 01:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

No sympathy here. I am a FL boy in Spokane. It is cold!

PD

I think the release is the right way to go. I am going to make the switch.

Image:0407-06-06WeakSubway wb.jpg

Hi, Elf. Any idea why this image -- as used as Subway (underpass) -- will not allow itself to be re-sized? Should you answer this, please bear in mind that you will be addressing a technoramus... ;) -- Picapica 21:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

page move discussion

Hi! There's a page move discussion going on at Talk:State Route 2 (California) that you may be interested in. Thanks, Gentgeen 08:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Interested?

Being the only other person in the Wikipedians by alma mater category for SCU, I thought you might be interested in the userbox I just made, {{user SCU}}:

This user is a student at or graduate of Santa Clara University

Dave Runger 22:25, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Your dogs r soooooooooooooo cute! I don't have any pets:(--Divya da animal lvr 20:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Dobermann

it's not point of view it's matter of fact it happens all the time to me or anyone else with a dobermann, in England the official name is black and tanned and i didn't put half of the stuff on there so leave me alone.