Talk:Communist Party of Britain

Electoral results

User:217.158.116.234 wrote: At the last general election in 2001 the CPB ran six candidates whose total vote came to 1,003. Is there a source for this? DJ Silverfish 20:19, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

CPB election results

2001 elections -- CPB vote reported in the Morning Star early May 2005 elections -- Full details of CPB vote and all other left candidates can be found at: [1]

I'm in the process of collating the election results from 2010 with sources from the electoral commission. If anyone has details on the candidates who stood in 2005 that would be great. Extua (talk) 10:25, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

2010 and 2005 done. Extua (talk) 21:44, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

only English-language socialist daily newspaper in the world

The Morning Star is exactly that. See [2]. All other socialist newspapers are either not in English (ie. Granma) or not daily (ie. the Weekly Worker). The Morning Star can claim to be definitely socialist because, unlike those who may be socialistic or left-leaning, the editorial board of the newspaper have to abide by Britain's Road to Socialism, and is, therefore, consistently socialist.

So what about Newsline, published by WRP? --Soman 19:30, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

It's not availible in newsagents, consists of no more than half a dozen articles or pieces and is, effectively, a mouthpiece for the WRP's leading members rather than a newspaper per se. In addition to this, it's also a pile of poo... Drky500 13:18, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

I've changed it to "One of the only English-language socialist daily newspapers". Despite what you say above, I feel that the case for the Newsline not being a newspaper is very POV.

"One of the only..." is a meaningless phrase -- it could refer to one of two or one of ten million. Manormadman 23:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)Manormadman

Does Newsline publish a daily print edition and if so, exactly what does it look like? If it lacks the following, maybe it isn't a paper, but only a newsletter or bulletin.

• Columnists (Morning Star features non-party members like Tony Benn as regular columnists.)
• Local, national, and international reporting
• Regular Sport, Entertainment and pop (non-party) Lit Review sections
• Editorial columns distinguished from news articles

The last might be tricky to define, but its a standard pretence for newspapers. If Newsline is only a few pages long it really isn't a paper. DJ Silverfish 19:57, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

http://www.wrp.org.uk/news/index.shtml is Newsline. Make your mind up...

newsline is more then a few pages.

Newsline is certainly a socialist daily. Furthermore, what about the Italian left dailies: Il Manifesto, L'Unita, and Neues Deutschland, the paper of the PDS? --Duncan 01:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahem, I believe they are not in English...Troublemaker1973 (talk) 13:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Long term rivals

I have removed the reference to the SWP as a "long term rival" making claims that the CPB has an elderly membership, as those claims dont particularly come from the SWP. Anyway, the wording is not very Wiki, and should not be part of an article.

Hammer and dove?

The hammer and dove, wich I had never heard of before, should be properly explained - especially as the article hammer and dove redirects here. Does anyone know anything about it? --Axel Löfving 21:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The hammer and dove article was - apparently - deleted. I have rescued its content and put it in the hammer and sickle article under "Other similar symbols". Also I have altered the redirect so that it now points to hammer and sickle.

Given that the result in the vote for deletion was only two in favour with none against, this demonstrates the value of setting a watch on articles that are felt to be important. Rugxulo 20:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Userbox

I created this Userbox for any supporters to put on their user page.

This user supports the Communist Party of Britain.

{{User:Willy turner/Userboxes/Communist Party of Britain}}

Willy turner 05:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

This is a online encyclopedia, not a political party drive. Highcount. 12:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Innacurate Name

They should rename themselves Communist Party of GREAT Britain seeing as BRITAIN includes Ulster! It's very offensive that a so-called British party does not consider Ulster British. A seperate party for each of the main islands in the British Isles is nonsense anyway particularly how small each one of the parties is. One party to cover the whole of the British Isles is plenty. YourPTR! (talk) 16:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:SOAP. --Soman (talk) 16:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, actually Britain, or Great Britain, doesn't include "Ulster". The official name of our current state is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". From a Communist perspective, Ireland, including the six counties in Northern Ireland, is covered by the Communist Party of Ireland. But as is pointed out, Wikipedia is not a soapbox... Grmdy (talk) 21:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

THere already is a Communist Party of Great Britain, which is a different organisation, from what I understand. Ground Zero | t 17:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The UK (which "Britain" usually refers to) includes just 6 of Ulster's 9 counties. And even if you were right, it's completely irrelevant - unless you want "At least 1 Wikipedian feels that the party should be renamed" stuck in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.36.119 (talk) 17:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Can this discussion be removed or archived somehow? We are here to write about the party, not rename it or offer it advice Olørin (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:CPB Logo.gif

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Political position edit

User: Political Dweeb is responsible for putting this edit into the CPB's policy on their position on religion. I just wanted to understand like any other person this political party's position on religion. Please tell me if this edit on this political party's position on religion needs improved in a way that is suitable. Hope someone replies thank you. Political Dweeb (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.235.228.121 (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I've updated your edit for grammar. Grmdy (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Some revisions

Areas of this page are a bit of a mess. Many of the references are now broken links, a simple fix. The party has also this year released a new version of its program "Britain's Road to Socialism" - this should be reflected, especially in the areas that reference party policy.

Other areas are merely out of date. The University section makes reference to events now 6 years old, surely more generic information is better for this section.

Similarly the publications section seems rather irrelevant - do we really need a list of pamphlets - this is an encyclopedia, not a shop.

I am willing to do this work, but would like to know people's opinions before I begin. Olørin (talk) 22:10, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I have now updated the publications section. Extua (talk) 15:57, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Union activism, I think, should include a link to http://employees.org.uk/union-failure.html#7 "Dragons Den on Drugs", but I know this is a ya-boo kind of subject and will leave the decision to those who look this page often. My personal interest is as a person let-down by a bad union, rather than someone for or against anything else about CPB; I just saw this page by accident. Veganline (talk) 11:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Facebook links

Links had been added to Facebook. I've changed them as follows: Removed the links to the Morning Star Facebook Group - these should be on the Morning Star page. Removed the link to the "old" Facebook group because it is old. Moved the link to the Facebook supporters group into the list of links and kept consistent styling. Olørin (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Ideology: Socialism or Communism?

For simplicity's sake, although the Communist Party of Britain, whom operate within the Marxist-Leninist tradition, seek the creation of a socialist society (socialism), their ultimate aim is the withering away of the socialist state altogether and the consequent creation of a communist society (communism), therefore their ideology is Communism, not Socialism, as they do not wish to halt progress at the socialist stage (transitional stage), but wish for the full emancipation of the proletariat via the communist stage. Netsurfer123 (talk) 09:04, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Agreed Olørin (talk) 08:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

History section

Seems to contain a lot of information about the breakup of the CPGB rather than directly relevant information on the CPB. I'm thinking especially the stuff about the cpgb-ml and the NCP, this has nothing to do with the CPB. Olørin (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

True, edit it out. Extua (talk) 10:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Done Olørin (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Size and electoral information

The electoral information is relevant, but could be expanded. Will need to do research to get full figures for more elections. While size is important, I don't think "claimed membership in 2004" is very useful at all. Plus I've looked at other political parties and very few reveal financial information on Wikipedia - I don't see why we should Olørin (talk) 08:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I've streamlined the membership information down to a table for now, and included a comment about branches. I will ask the office for more accurate information to fill in the missing years. Also, how many branches are there in total? Remove the financial information if you want as it's not so relevant. Extua (talk) 10:45, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

CPB candidates stood in elections recently so we could do with updating the election information. Unlike some parties on the left the CPB has a strong electoral history and that should be reflected in the article. Extua (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I've updated the membership info with official figures - although these aren't published online and I'm still not sure about revealing them. Financial information tidied up to what is published in the electoral commission website. Don't have any electoral figures to hand and don't have the energy to compile them! Olørin (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there's anything particularly dangerous about the official membership figures, they should be public anyway, if it's a breach of information somehow then we can get rid of it. I've added the 2010 and 2005 general election results and plan to carry on with by-elections and local election results. Extua (talk) 21:52, 28 March 2013 (UTC)