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* '''Comment''' - Unfortunately, there is no good redirect target unless one is willing to lose the information in a massive Republican Party page, which is really not sufficient. I will also note thatthere was some sort a high school "teen age Republican" organization that held national conventions in 1940, 1944, and 1948 (at least), which 1100 delegates to the 1948 model convention in Pennsylvania and there was organizing being done under this name in 1950 as well. So, yeah, there is work to be done here, I don't think the 1960 origination date is |
* '''Comment''' - Unfortunately, there is no good redirect target unless one is willing to lose the information in a massive Republican Party page, which is really not sufficient. I will also note thatthere was some sort a high school "teen age Republican" organization that held national conventions in 1940, 1944, and 1948 (at least), which 1100 delegates to the 1948 model convention in Pennsylvania and there was organizing being done under this name in 1950 as well. So, yeah, there is work to be done here, I don't think the 1960 origination date is necessarily correct. This should easily pass GNG with a little sifting, Newspapers.com is showing over 4,000 hits for "Teen Age Republicans" for the 1960 to 1980 period alone... [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 19:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:: [http://www.newspapers.com/clip/2834341/national_teenage_republicans/ HERE] is a piece from the ''Huron Daily Plainsman'' (Aug. 27, 1963) about the 1967 NTAR encampment in Wisconsin, which was addressed by a sitting Tennessee Congressional representative. [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 19:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC) |
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I couldn't establish that it meets WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 20:49, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete / Redirect to Republican Party (United States). Insufficient RS to pass WP:ORG. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 22:03, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per the policy of IAR (Use Common Sense to Improve the Encyclopedia). I am in favor of the lowest of possible barriers for articles about political parties, their youth sections, and their leaders, without regard to size or ideology — this is the sort of material that our readers have reason to expect to be included in a comprehensive encyclopedia. This is one of three official national youth organizations of the Republican Party in the United States, one of the two biggest political parties in the country (along with Young Republicans and College Republicans). Even if there were zero sources extant, this is enough for me. Carrite (talk) 15:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- According to Sabato and Ernst's Encyclopedia of American Political Parties and Elections, National Teen Age Republicans (note official name for a name change if this article is kept) is the "Under 18" organization for the Republican Party LINK. Carrite (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
this is the sort of material that our readers have reason to expect to be included in a comprehensive encyclopedia
-- This is an argument for having the material somewhere on Wikipedia, not a rationale for it having its own article, which would have to be supported by significant coverage in reliable sources. If those don't exist to a sufficient degree, what would we base the article on? Primary sources? Perma-stub? I would support a selective merge to mention it elsewhere (a mention seems about all that's merited at this point anyway), but you haven't given a rationale for why we should ignore all rules (a particularly hard sell at AfD except in very unusual cases, which I don't think this is). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 06:54, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 06:54, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - Unfortunately, there is no good redirect target unless one is willing to lose the information in a massive Republican Party page, which is really not sufficient. I will also note thatthere was some sort a high school "teen age Republican" organization that held national conventions in 1940, 1944, and 1948 (at least), which 1100 delegates to the 1948 model convention in Pennsylvania and there was organizing being done under this name in 1950 as well. So, yeah, there is work to be done here, I don't think the 1960 origination date is necessarily correct. This should easily pass GNG with a little sifting, Newspapers.com is showing over 4,000 hits for "Teen Age Republicans" for the 1960 to 1980 period alone... Carrite (talk) 19:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
- HERE is a piece from the Huron Daily Plainsman (Aug. 27, 1963) about the 1967 NTAR encampment in Wisconsin, which was addressed by a sitting Tennessee Congressional representative. Carrite (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC)