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No indication of notability. He has never played in a fully professional league. Sources largely are trivial or unrelaible, at times outright promotional ("We do the following at Libstars.com: 1. Promoting Liberian Players playing home and aboard."). Huon (talk) 22:57, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

• Weak keep I passed it through AfC, not because of WP:FOOTY auto qualifiers, but because I believed it scraped by WP:GNG. Coverage is notable in Liberia. Combined with mild, passing coverage in college and Denmark was enough to show it not to be regional. Sulfurboy (talk) 23:08, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Can you please point out the specific coverage you're referring to? I saw only promotional websites from Liberia, no reliable sources, plus some Danish sports coverage explicitly listed as "local sports". Huon (talk) 00:41, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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• Keep The player has played in full profession games. if not he wouldn't be listed with the Danish D2 topscorers of 2015 season http://www.dbukoebenhavn.dk/turneringer_og_resultater/resultatsoegning/poolTopscorer.aspx?poolid=194712&showall=true also, the sources you are referring to as unreliable is one of Liberia's top online news websites. Note that Liberia (where the player is from] is the 4th poorest country in the world, so may not be as advanced as other countries to have many reliable news by your standard or view Huon so double check your facts, the player has also played in competitive college football in the USA, and Google attest to that. For a new player in Europe, the page has standard source to be kept

• keep ´he is a player playing in the Danish league system away from his home - Liberia. yes you can say not much is covered on him as sources yet, but remember not much is covered on Liberia or its player in general ( as its a small and very poor country ). So the source (libstars.com) is one of Liberia's top news sources for years. also other stats from the Danish league association,NCAA college

sports website, colleges the play played for should be regarded...

Please do not !vote more than once. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

• keep the player is listed here in the gamesheet as a svebolle b&I player ( which is a dnaish pro team) http://fchnet.dk/?p=210

Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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• Delete - He has not played in a fully professional league, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT, and the coverage he has received is run-of-the-mill sports coverage, which is insufficient to meet WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:12, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

• low KEEP yes the article may not have high sources but I have researched the player, and he is one of his country's (liberia) highly monitored players abroad. The player is broadcast on liberia'a many top radio stations and monitored by top news stations in liberia alone with other Liberians playing abroad. I understand that liberia is a poor country and has limited access or experience in technology so most of their local news are either in news papers or on the radio ( which don't usually get on the internet). And given the fact that the Danish Football Association listed the player as a player in their league, (don't matter the league as long the player is paid and the club is listed as a pro club that should surface) I think the article merates "keep"

We could recommend edits maybe but definitely keep cause the player appears to be a player that the public seem interrested in, and citations were made in the article backing where the player has played (college and in Denmark) *KEEP

Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

• keep the player seem to be one of Liberia's highly monitored footballers (by Google search), and some sources in the article seem pretty reliable ( the website libstar.com, colleges official websites and so). Also, per the Danish league, the player has officially played in games in the Danish league 2. And given the player's heritage, d2 in Europe is a high standard (expecially when the league is classified as "pro" by Fifa or the local FA) I think the article should be kept.

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@Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik I have made few edits to other pages too, accuracy is what interests me and validity. I do not wish to rubb on with this discussion, but as mentioned in my earlier comment, the player or individual seems to meet some standards to set him up for a page. I researched, he is a registered player of the club (which is a pro team in Denmark), and he is one of the highly monitored footballers from his country per Google searching. I know I am new to Wikipedia and edits and so ( but there many other pages on here that don't have even as close as information as this page has, yet they are still running fine for years), so it's not about anything else then saying what merits - and I think, based on the records from the Danish football association, the club, a local online news website (which @houh thinks is not "much reliable"), and other sourceses from his previous college, I think this page merits keep. Like I said before, maybe fee adjustment could be recommended or even made via your expertise but not deleting the entire page when clearly there is evidence that this page merits keep. I do not wish to sound offense in anyway, neither have I ever met the player in person but as a member of the local Danish sports news channel, thought I'll share my view on the matter. Either taken to consideration or less regarded, I'm sure you could find some logic and facts in my opinions. Thanks for your time

Sportsnation213 (talk) 09:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

• Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. I am concerned that a lot of of superficially looks like signfiicant coverage is in fact overtly promotional. Fenix down (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

• WEEK KEEP So far looks like the writer who made the page is inexperienced with Wikipedia's style as there may be a few wordings that sound a bit promotional, but looking at the page itself I think that it should be kept. I double checked the sources provided, I wouldn't say they are "weak" as they also seem to be reporting accurate headlines of "Liberian players" and have been credited as one of Liberia's reliable news sources. I'm new to Wikipedia too, but I will suggest the page be kept (reason being: the argument on here so far is about "the player playing in a 'full professional game'), so far it looks like the player is playing for Svebolle B&I, and if so then he has played in a professional game. I am not sure what your definition of "professional " is but if the Danish Football Association itself lost a club or league division as a pro or semi-pro team, why dispute? I also check out a like provided on here by the previous comments and the player is listed as a scorer for the said team by the Danish football Association official website. I recommend the article be kept, but you might suggest other - before then, check the facts again...double check cause so far the source may not be as strong as u wish, but seems legit. God bless

Dreamguy2014 (talk) 20:50, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:59, 24 July 2015 (UTC)