Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shi'a Islam/Biographical articles

Ali

• Added some new sections to the Ali article --Striver 22:50, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

• And Zora deleted them as non-sense... surprise... --Striver 02:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Salam

I want to add some references to Imam Ali article. I become glad if you help me with this. There is some problem about pictures like this [1] . As I know drawing the portrait(Shamayel) wasn't common in Muslim society until Mongols and Safavid's. So all of the pictures like this give misinformation and we shouldn't use them. --Sa.vakilian 02:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Please look at this article and check my editions.--Sa.vakilian 03:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I scanned the talk page of that article. That's terrible. You always have editorial war and somebody does authoritative edits. But the article is very weak. There isn't reffrence for most of the article. It is weak and it is defective. Why this article should be so terrible although most of the Muslims accepts Ali's position even Tabari has written a book about Ghadir!!!--Sa.vakilian 06:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

yeah, i know. I was very active on that article for a while, but i quited it. Maybe ill return to it. Regarding the picture, do you have any reference for that? --Striver 15:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

There isn't any pictures from Imams. You want reference for what?--Sa.vakilian 18:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

maybe references for "As I know drawing the portrait(Shamayel) wasn't common in Muslim society until Mongols and Safavid's. " ? --Striver 00:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

There is debate on Hadith of Ghadir Khumm in the Talk:Ali. Please come and write your idea there.--Sa.vakilian 07:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Bro, i am on a break, so don't count on me for a while.--Striver 11:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

We can use Nahj al Balagha

We can use Ali's quotations to complete Ali. For example we can use " Sermon of ash-Shiqshiqiyyah" to complete Ali's life after Rasoolallah.[2]. Fortunately this site debates about the trustworthy and validity of sermons. If you agree, I can say each sermon or letter is suitable for which issue.--Sa.vakilian 12:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Abdullah ibn Abbas

• Subject raised on talk page, time to take the "lier, sinful, treacherous and dishonest" hadith to its full lenght. Time for a full-scale justification of it, aimed at a future inclusion in all relevant articles. --Striver 07:02, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Muawiyah_I

Is this accurate? --Striver 01:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Yazid I

Dont have time to follow up on this --Striver 01:09, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Hujr ibn Adi

Just created it --Striver 05:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Malik bin Nuwaira

Should be added --AhmadAudi a sahabi killed by Khalid bin Al walid by the orders of Abu Bakr.

Look here: Malik ibn Nuwayra. We tend to write "ibn" rather than" "bin". Take a look here for a list of Sahaba. Good to see you work :) --Striver 15:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Assessment

Discusion

The Donia(یا دنیا)! What are you doing with Ali? Why we should put similiar importance for Ali and Muawiyah_I articles. What is the relation between Them. - User:Sa.vakilian

I dont mean that Muawiyah is important in Shi'a Islam, only that he is important in encyclopedia about Shi'a Islam.--Striver 12:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

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High	Subject contributes a depth of knowledge
Mid	Subject fills in more minor details
Low	Subject is mainly of specialist interest.

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Individuals
Importance	Quality	Issues	Article name	Description, why this is of interest for this project
Top	B		Ali	First Shi'a Imam
Top			Abdullah ibn Abbas	One of Ali's students
Top			Muawiyah_I	One of Ali's staunchest enemy
Top			Yazid I	For becoming Caliph after Muawiya and his role in the Battle of Karbala.
High	B		Shaykh Ahmad	founder of Shaykhís.
Mid			Malik ibn Nuwayra	For becoming a martyr due to defying Abu Bakr and his general.
Mid			Hujr ibn Adi	For becoming a martyr due to defying Muawiyah
Mid	Start		Al-Mukhtar	Ledd rebelion
Low			Abu-Lu'lu'ah	Killed Umar

Organizations and groups
Quality	Importance	Issues	Article name	Description, why this is of interest for this project
	Mid		The Aalulbayt (a.s.) Global Information Center
	Low		Ahlul Bayt Digital Islamic Library Project