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== Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2018 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Irony|answered=no}}
ADD to the list of historical irony

First Lady Melania Trump promoting "Be Best," an anti-bullying campaign to combat the harmful effects of social media, while her husband, President Donald Trump, is considered by many to use social media to insult and discredit people who are perceived as his political enemies (references 1 and 2).

References:

1) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/melania-trump-delivers-remarks-at-bullying-prevention-summit-live-stream-today-2018-08-20/
2) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-childlike-strangeness-of-melania-trumps-be-best-campaign

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The Actual Definition of Irony

Person 1 implies A. Person 2 infers B. Observation C contradicts B. Irony is tragic when C also contradicts A.

Example: Bob says to Jim, "Nice day, huh?". Jim replies, "It's raining, ain't nothing nice about it.". Bob was not talking about the weather, he was talking about the attractive woman who just walked by.
Example + Tragic: Bob later notices that, because of the bad weather, attractive women rarely walk around outside.
Irony is dramatic irony when the true audience is privy to the knowledge that person 2 is wrong.

This definition satisfies the need for a double audience, explains the confusion around the contradiction, and shows how sarcasm can be a useful component of irony. It also explains that there is a marked and objectively observable difference between sarcasm, contradiction, coincidence, tragedy, and irony. Epigeios (talk) 14:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the actual definition of ironic is a unique relationship between two entirely different events. Lightbodyslady (talk) 20:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Oatmeal's take

This Oatmeal comic theoatmeal.com/comics/irony, and especially the final point, ought to find mention somewhere.

Support. The themes of the comic are so valuable. Stop treating pedantry, or trying to make yourself look smart, as the main point of a given conversation that happens to mention irony. It's not the main point, it's only your insecurely obsessive misplaced focus. — ¾-10 16:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fire extinguisher factory destroyed in massive blaze [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.54.244.173 (talk) 13:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oedipus Rex

I didn't see anything on Oedipus Rex, which was an ironic masterpiece written by the Greek playwright Sophocles. This should be in there somewhere, as it is a perfect example of irony in literature. --Danny Starman (talk) 17:17, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2017

A current example of irony is the ideology of preventing free speech and freedom of expression while claiming to be anti-fascist. WritefulChange (talk) 17:10, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 19:03, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also, WP:SOAP. Prinsgezinde (talk) 13:07, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2018

ADD to the list of historical irony

First Lady Melania Trump promoting "Be Best," an anti-bullying campaign to combat the harmful effects of social media, while her husband, President Donald Trump, is considered by many to use social media to insult and discredit people who are perceived as his political enemies (references 1 and 2).

References:

1) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/melania-trump-delivers-remarks-at-bullying-prevention-summit-live-stream-today-2018-08-20/ 2) https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-childlike-strangeness-of-melania-trumps-be-best-campaign

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