User talk:Primefac

Women in Red World Contest

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Possible COI?

Can you please take a look at Draft:CoNetrix - especially the images. There is one of a fax from the Bin Laden group. It is clearly a private business communication, with names, etc. The article creator User:B Jamison963 says it is his own work. I'm not sure it is suitable for a number of reasons, but not sure what to do with it. 09:28, 7 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeraphWiki (talk • contribs) 09:28, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's not suitable for Wikipedia (let alone Commons) and I see that it's been nominated for deletion there. In the meantime I've removed it from the draft. If you think they have an undisclosed COI, you should ask them about it, but as long as the draft is written neutrally it doesn't really matter (unless they're being paid). COIN is always an option. Primefac (talk) 14:05, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Ejembi12

I'm wondering if we are getting to the point where talkpage access might need to be pulled. It's becoming a time sink with this editor and their numerous appeals and endless Wikilawyering. As you said, they have one edit to Wikipedia that is not to a talk page. The only editing they look to do is to promote their self it seems, and it's to the point that the community patience may be exhausted. RickinBaltimore (talk) 21:17, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

I think that might be the case. As much as I hate to lose an editor, I don't mind so much when they're a one-trick pony. Primefac (talk) 13:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of Draft:Samuel Rosenberg (artist)

This is my first submission article on Wikipedia. I got a notification that it will be deleted. I would like to rewrite it. Can I do it under the same title: Draft:Samuel Rosenberg (artist)? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iblum (talk • contribs) 23:36, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Iblum, there is no issue with you rewriting your draft at the same location, but you must write it in your own words. I've had to delete your second attempt because it was copied directly from other sources. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and any infractions are removed immediately. Primefac (talk) 13:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Help needed on AfC submission

Greetings Primefac. I recently encountered an AfC submission and would be in need of your help. Is writing articles about yourself allowed on Wikipedia? EROS ^message 01:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@Heliosxeros: (tps) Per WP:AUTO:

Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged.--S Philbrick(Talk) 03:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: I see, thanks. EROS ^message 03:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

OTRS request

Could I talk you into looking at ticket:2018010910001652. They have a question about IPv6, and I'm not sure why this site says Wikipedia.org os not fully compatible, or what that means.--S Philbrick(Talk) 02:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)Probably, because Wikipedia hasn't got any IPv6 DNS server.That's a problem for pure IPv6-only networks, without any tunneling (which are rare).Winged Blades^Godric 07:58, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

With respect to their latest question - I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if IPv6 users can edit Wikipedia, chances are pretty good they can view them... Who wants to answer the ticket with "yes"? Primefac (talk) 12:38, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

A little help, if you don't mind???

Hi ::@Primefac: !

You have been kind enough to respond to two of my previous inquiries to other users that I contacted about AFC and on your last advice about a week ago, you said the draft I created would likely be reviewed in just a few days but it still hasn't. I learned from your last message that there are only 200 or so reviewers for new articles so I realize it must be a monumental task to sort through all the new content created daily but still I have seen many articles that were written well after my draft was written and many of those are already approved or declined. Since I wrote my draft back in November and it is still sitting idle I was just hoping that perhaps you can give me a little help and push it forward for a faster review. I would really appreciate any assistance you can give. The draft I wrote is at the following link and it has been worked on by a few others in the Wikipedia community as well. Thank you very kindly in advance for your help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ian_Erix

Best Regards, Stefan 07:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruinsects (talk • contribs) 07:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Bruinsects, I do apologize, I misread the submission time on your draft - the backlog is currently about two months, and your draft was submitted just over a month ago. Thus, it is likely to be a while before it is reviewed. Thank you for your patience. Primefac (talk) 12:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi again ::@Primefac: :) As you may remember, we have chatted a couple of times while I had been waiting for a draft article I wrote some time ago to be reviewed and you were quite helpful in offering reassurances to me that it was not forgotten about and would eventually get looked over. After 8 weeks of waiting, it was finally reviewed yesterday but unfortunately declined. I do not believe this was a fair decision at all as the reviewer, by their own admission, only looked at 5 of the 43 cited sources and declined then declined the article for lack of notability that I believe is clearly established. I see that there is a possibility to resubmit my draft after making alterations to it but since I believe it clearly meets all the notability guidelines as it is, I would like to have it reviewed again if possible. I have already written to the Wikipedian who declined it just a few moments ago but wanted to reach out to you as well to see if there is any other appropriate measure I can take now. For your reference, please find the note I wrote below to the editor who declined my draft. Any help you can provide with this would be greatly appreciated.

Hi MadeYouReadThis - Thank you for your review but it does not seem fair at all for you to decline this submission with having admittedly just reviewed 5 out of the 43 citations. I waited for nearly 2 months after submitting this draft to have it looked at for approval and it is simply not right to have it declined after all of this time for not meeting notability guidelines when the vast majority of sources were not even checked, as you yourself have stated. It is true that you state that the Vanity Fair article does not mention Erix directly, but that particular reference was specifically included only to back up the claims that were written about Pearlman in this article. Pearlman was mentioned since his professional relationship is relevant to Erix's career and references to this were also cited. In regard to Broadway World, All Music, Daily Star and Talent Monthly, in my opinion, these references do seem to clearly support the claims in the article and the notability of the subject. Nevertheless, if you for some reason feel differently, there are 38 other cited sources that also seem to clearly establish notability of the subject in my opinion as per the notability guidelines that you cited as part of WP:MUSICBIO . Erix specifically meets the Criteria for musicians by matching the following 8 out of 12 Criteria for musicians and ensembles listed in the Wikipeida guidelines for what constitutes notable musicians. I copied the 8 criteria he matches below. 1-He has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and independent of the musician himself. 2-Has had a single on a country's national music chart. 3-Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country. 4-Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. 5-Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels. 10-Has performed music for a work of media that is notable 11-Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. 12-Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.

With the above in mind, I kindly ask that you reconsider the decline and review this article again more thoroughly if you have the time or alternately please ask another Wikipedian to take a look at the article as I have spent a lot of time trying to perfect this and follow Wikipedia's guidelines. I do believe it should be passed through based on it's merits and the fact that it does meet all the applicable thresholds. Thank you very much for your consideration. Stefan Bruinsects (talk) 06:37, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Bruinsects, funny you writing today, because about 12 hours ago I was looking at the decline on your draft and wondering if it was the right call. I see that another reviewer has marked your page as under review, and they're a solid reviewer, so I would wait for their response (which I expect to be much more fair). No guarantees as to whether it will be accepted, but it's very likely you'll receive better feedback. Primefac (talk) 12:07, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hey ::@Primefac: Thanks so much for your reply. I wish I was writing to you with the situation resolved but I have to say I am even more perplexed today than I was yesterday. It seems like the draft was edited significantly by the other editor you mentioned who put it under their review yesterday. He or she removed over 20 of the sources I had cited and I thought that editor was still working on the draft so I did not contribute at all in the last 24 hours as I wanted to be respectful and wait for them to finish what they were doing. However, I see now that another Wikipedian has come along and submitted the article for review and then another one declined the article yet again. The reason given, once more, plainly does not make any sense at all. I understand fully that Wikipedia must have strict guidelines and policies in place because otherwise people would write all sorts of untruths and nonsense that would go unchecked. I love the contributory nature of Wikipedia and respect the democracy of it all but that said, it seems totally unethical to have a clearly established set of criteria published on Wikipedia as a guideline for notability at WP:MUSICBIO and then have those very specific guidelines totally thrown out and ignored by multiple administrators. The subject of my draft clearly meets 8 of the 12 criteria for notable musicians and this has been established by reliable and independent sources, some of which have now been removed by the last editor who may or may not have been finished making adjustments to the draft. All and all, this has been extremely frustrating as I have been making an honest and sincere effort to contribute to Wikipedia in a proper manner and it seems as if the actual guidelines of the site itself are not being followed by admins. All I am looking for is a fair shake but my time and efforts keep getting dismissed with reasons that fly in the face of logic and reason. Any further help you can offer to resolve this would be so very appreciated. Thanks again. Stefan Bruinsects (talk) 07:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac:--Common sense is increasingly becoming uncommon.IDOH alone knows why he choose to remove the under-review tag, given that I was actively cleaning-up the draft and even by the wordings of the template, 12 hours has not passed from my last edit.I was actually preparing a detailed reply as to my removal of a chunk of sources along with some additional comments on the state of the draft when I noticed IDOH's de-marking and Chetsford's subsequent review.(I don't blame C at all:)).Anyways, the draft looks like borderline stuff to my eyes.Winged Blades^Godric 09:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

@Bruinsects:-- Your re-insertion of the bunch of near-worthless source(s) will further hamper the prospects of the draft, for no fly-by reviewer will wade through fifty non-reliable half-spammy sources to find one/two rel. source(s) and accept on the basis of those.Winged Blades^Godric 09:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi ::@Winged Blades of Godric:, I did not reinsert sources as an affront to your efforts but as you know another editor came in and declined the draft after your revisions, before you were finished, and I didn't even know if you were going to come back to the article at that point so I thought it was best to undo then. I've just read some of your notes though and I am taking them into consideration and trying to improve the draft based on your criticisms. I do believe there are still at least a few sources you removed that are valid and prove notablity. I hope that perhaps with the shortening of the article that will become more clear and succinct and I will address it as best I can upon my revision. Thanks for your help. Stefan Bruinsects (talk) 10:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I understood the motivation behind your re-addition of sources:) But as I said, that was unhelpful.Anyways, feel free to list the sources that you feel were wrongly removed and I will be happy to give an explanation.Happy editing! Cheers!Winged Blades^Godric 11:04, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit page?

Hi Primefac. I see today you deleted a page I had created. I from the initial Wikipedia review that I could edit the content and resubmit. Can I still do that? Or can I now create a new page with the same name and upload new content? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trix70 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Trix70, because the content was copied from elsewhere, the page cannot be restored, so you will have to start over writing in your own words. Primefac (talk) 00:32, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Template protection

Hi, is there any chance you might be able to remove the protection of Template:Languages of Indonesia? I can't recall seeing it vandalised and it has a history of helpful IP edits. On a general note, I don't think it's a good idea to protect navboxes, at least not the language-related ones: they're a real chore to maintain and are almost always out of step with all the article creations, mergers, splits and moves. IPs have been willing to help and vandalism hasn't really been an issue. – Uanfala (talk) 20:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Just please keep an eye out to make sure that any potential vandalism gets reverted quickly. Primefac (talk) 16:19, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh good, will do. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 19:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's: Revision history

Greetings please could you verify what should be the copyrights violation, because after your intervention I've rewritten the text from 1000 to 485 words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrodini2017 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

My apologies, when I did a check on the content I misread what you had added and though it was copyrighted. I have restored it. Primefac (talk) 16:17, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

May I ask for a few minutes' feedback on my AfC review process

I very much appreciate the time you've spent looking over my early reviews. I'm seeing this is very much like performing a reasonable WP:BEFORE on a potential deletion candidate. That process I feel comfortable enjoining. But minutes after I performed one review, the reviewed page was nominated for deletion. I have replied to that nomination, defending my choice to promote to mainspace. Would you be willing to look at my defense? The page is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liz Cooper & The Stampede. I'd specifically prefer you NOT participate in the AfD process. I'm not looking for !votes. I'd just like to make sure I'm on solid footing with my review rationale. Would you look? Thanks. BusterD (talk) 22:22, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply BusterD. I think giving your rationale for accepting the draft is a good thing, though if I were going point-by-point down the refs I'd probably use a numbered list rather than prose (just to make things easier to read). As for pages getting nominated right after acceptance - some people do that for borderline cases; there's nothing wrong with it (or with your accept), and over the last few months the % of accepted drafts that gets nominated has held fairly steady. Keep up the good work! Primefac (talk) 17:23, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Appreciate your eyes and your detailed feedback. I guess on rereading I felt I was coming across as defensive. I'm not trying to win any argument here; if I review and pass something, then I feel I should be able to defend my effort. BusterD (talk) 23:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm...

Need your eyes on Modoka Studios Entertainment. It appears the article creator may be connected. It doesn't meet notability and I noticed a lot of moving and deleting going on, but not sure if there may be some hanky panky involving a COI or not. ^{Atsme📞📧} 03:13, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Based on their edit history they're either a COI or just a fan of the company, but other than the declaration that they're a "freelance writer" there's no smoking gun. Primefac (talk) 17:31, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Self-note

Clean up Edenham High School / Orchard Park High School and Sixth Form (Croydon) merger/move dumpster fire. Primefac (talk) 19:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Now that we've reached the inevitable conclusion...

Would you mind restoring the oversighted material on Talk:Kidnapping of Joshua Boyle and Caitlan Coleman? Thanks. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

difficulty at Talk

I'm having a bit of trouble and am not sure what to do. Your hatting of Lacypaperclip's series of complaints about my AfD'ing the James D. Zirin article, while appreciated, has not resolved her concerns with me. Per your advice I've tried to encourage discussion on the Talk page, however, we are having some issues that are becoming increasingly destructive and seem unresolvable without an uninvolved persons' assistance.

• Lacy has used the AfD to imply that I am a personal enemy of Zirin and/or his family and/or the entire legal profession; I am concerned the interrogation she is now trying to use the AfD to conduct may be a bit derailing: "have you ever met him, do you know someone in the family? Is there any link to him, or maybe do you not like attorneys? Please just leave a simple yes or no answer" [1] The quantity of !votes are trending towards delete and these 11th hour allegations about the nom, without evidence, could be seen as a hail mary to derail the AfD. While I AGF that was not her intent, I'm concerned she may not realize some could perceive it that way.
• When I tried to initiate a RfC about a formatting question she told me I should "seek some help" [2] and then slapped "This RFC is flawed with a non-neutral statement!" [3] over the RfC template.
• After I removed a highly questionable "source" that the subject of the WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, User:JZirin, added about himself (the source in question was just the words "James Zirin" in parantheses) Lacy started a Talk page thread she titled "Disruption at this article by user Chetsford" [4]. I'm wondering if that specific title could be stricken or refactored? Using a thread title for the purpose of making an H2-size billboard of an accusation against an editor is not, I don't think, the correct use of the Talk page?

My first attempt at deescalation was to try to disengage completely from the article but that wasn't entirely effective as Lacy simultaneously developed a newfound interest in several pages I am active at. For instance,

• I was working to salvage SA Recycling LLC from deletion at which point Lacy - who had never previously edited that article - put an "unreliable source" tag on one sentence with the edit summary "Can you demonstrate editorial control" [5]. This came 40 minutes after I posed an identically-worded question (on the James Zirin talk page in a discussion of kentpresents.com - "Does it have editorial controls?" [6]). I expressed to her my deep concern that this edit could be seen as WP:POINTY and WP:WIKIHOUNDING.[7]
• Since you hatted the AfC thread she started about me, she has moved her discussions about me to other Talk pages. Again, that's fine and I respect her right to do so, but I wish she would ping me when she does it as they usually involve accusations about various intrigues which I'm allegedly masterminding, the factuality of which I would like the opportunity to dispute. [8])

I think bringing this up at ANI would be a waste of time over what is - ultimately - a very, very minor edit question. I was wondering if it would be possible to impose on you to just hang out check-in at the Zirin talk page for the next day or two? I think maybe just having a regular presence of an uninvolved person there would maybe help prevent this from becoming more intense than it has become. Chetsford (talk) 08:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Unsalting

Need un create protection of Global Payments so to move in Draft:Global Payments- though it has a checkered past, it is an S&P 500 company (apparently that's not enough to not be declined for being non-notable or to get deleted as A7!, though :) ). Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:13, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Galobtter, done. Primefac (talk) 14:42, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

NPR

Would you mind granting my alt (this account) the NPR flag? Thanks. TBallioni (talk) 16:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

No. Primefac (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Rude. TBallioni (talk) 16:52, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Um... you're welcome? Primefac (talk) 16:53, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I misread that as a joke saying you weren't after the fact (and obviously you did), so I was joking back. Self trout. TBallioni (talk) 16:55, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Your answer to my Q. about Good articles

Thanks for clarifying what the green circles were; who judges a "good" article; the user community in general? Noble Korhedron 19:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noble Korhedron (talk • contribs)

Good Articles must meet a certain set of criteria, which are evaluated by members of the community. See WP:GAN for more information about nominating pages for GA status. Primefac (talk) 19:06, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up the mess I created with the OTRS rmv confidential info caused by me, and thanks for reminding by mail. Dan Koehl (talk) 17:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Aye, no worries, it's easy to make that mistake (I've done it a time or two myself). Primefac (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Yellowman DoB

Hi Primefac. Regarding this, I've seen the OTRS ticket, but surely we still need a published source for WP:VERIFY purposes? Cordless Larry (talk) 19:09, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

You do raise a valid point, and I'm not honestly sure about the "proper protocol". However, as far as I've seen the extant sources don't give accurate information, so unless there's something that does give the proper date, I'd rather hold the OTRS ticket as verification of of the DOB. Primefac (talk) 19:12, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Cordless Larry, chatted with some other admins, long story short you're right. See the article talk for more. Primefac (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. See also my e-mails on OTRS. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:32, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Yup. Thanks for taking that over. Primefac (talk) 19:33, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

First adminship anniversary!

Wishing Primefac a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 21:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Primefac (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

"Congrats" Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of IEEE article history

• Every* revision of Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers for the last 14 years is a copyright violation? This is extremely unusual. Could you explain why you had to delete the article this way? --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

It was copied directly from the IEEE website, and despite the age I highly doubt the IEEE is copying their own information from us. Primefac (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) And on top of that, it has no encyclopedic value because it was incredibly promotional (see deleted revisions containing "we strive", "we do" etc...) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:23, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I provided a second set of eyes for Primefac on this. He is correct. This was a copyright violation since 2004. We come across old copyvios somewhat frequently, and unfortunately we have to hide the revision history once we are aware of it. William H. Keeler is one where Diannaa had to hide almost 12 years worth of history at my request (pre-admin days). It is unfortunate, but it is the standard practice on en.wiki for dealing with copyright violations, even if they are longstanding. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

I had never seen so many revisions deleted before. I can't see them, that's why they are deleted. Glad we have more oversight than the Hawaii civil defense system. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

See Padmashali for another example. Nearly 11 years:)Winged Blades^Godric 11:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

harassment has started or continued ...

[9]

Hi Primefac, could block and/or squash this ASAP? Perhaps have some "Checkuser" could check it's ip, and see by the location, who the person might possibly be, to see who the sockpuppet could possibly be?

Thanks! Lacypaperclip (talk) 20:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Blocked the account, nuked their edits/page creations. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Chinneylove Eze

Chinneylove Eze is a Nigerian movie producer Babatunde Adeniyi (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

That's cool. Primefac (talk) 22:24, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Template protection (2)

Can you explain why you protected this? I don't know of any relevant vandalism problems. (please use {{ping}} if you respond here.) ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Koavf, there has been a huge increase in the amount of drive-by template vandalism, and in an effort to cut down on the amount of gigantic phalluses (phallusi?) that pop up on pages I started a discussion about semi-protecting high-transclusion templates, and the general consensus is to go for it. Primefac (talk) 00:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

What's the rationale for which ones are protected? This one hadn't been edited in four years. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

See my reply above. Primefac (talk) 00:42, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Yeah sorry didn't fully read it before leaving here. I won't argue it. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Aye, no worries, you're clearly not the only one! Primefac (talk) 01:00, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

What transclusion count or other metric are you using to identify a template as "high-usage"? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:00, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

250+ transclusions. Primefac (talk) 12:28, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Not 200+? One of the protected templates I came across has 201 transclusions. – Uanfala (talk) 00:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

The original list was 200+, but I trimmed it down to only 250+. If any slipped through that was unintentional. Primefac (talk) 05:06, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I've only checked this template because it was near the top of the list in the protection log. The templates that immediately follow it are {{WikiProject Graffiti/class}}, {{WikiProject Hazara}} and {{WikiProject Galicia}}, with transclusion counts of 233, 233 (again) and 237 respectively. – Uanfala (talk) 05:22, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Template protection (3)

Hi, would you be able to unprotect Template:Language families, Template:Pama–Nyungan languages and Template:Tourism in Kerala? The situation is more or less the same as the Indonesian languages template from a few days ago. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 13:21, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

And can I also add Template:Sign language navigation, Template:Languages of Nigeria and Template:Languages of China. Cheers! – Uanfala (talk) 13:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 13:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Appreciated! – Uanfala (talk) 13:47, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Histmerge request

Hi. Thanks for the histmerge for Polo Reyes. Could you see if a histmerge is also possible for Draft:Devin Clark (fighter) and Devin Clark (fighter), which was also created by a copy-paste move of an AfC draft, which resulted in the AfC submission being declined? Bennv3771 (talk) 15:43, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 15:54, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Wow you work fast. Thanks again. Bennv3771 (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Why semi-protect this template?

Primefac, I was surprised to see you semi-protect Template:WikiProject Citizendium Porting "to combat systematic vandalism" when it has never experienced any vandalism. Indeed, the only edits since 2010 were related to a deletion nomination. RockMagnetist(talk) 18:27, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

See #Template protection (2) above. Primefac (talk) 18:29, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Rosen Heights - Fort Worth, Texas - community on North Side)

I've reapplied the copyvio review of Draft:Rosen Heights - Fort Worth, Texas - community on North Side). I see your point that the copied information is within quotes, and if this were a single long quote in the middle of an otherwise reasonably written article, I'd agree. But this makes up nearly the entire article, the article is a copy and past of the URL mentioned. I'm not asking that it be speedily deleted but am noting the copyright violation to the submitter.--MadeYourReadThis (talk) 21:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

MadeYourReadThis, fair enough, and in reading the decline reason "the whole thing is one big quote" does fall within the |cv| decline. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 21:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Unprotect Haryana template

Please unprotect the Haryana template. I wish to make some additions, forts, stepwells, etc. I do not have wikipedia account and not willing to register also but I do make edits from time to time as you can see from my talk page. Thanks. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 22:19, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 22:21, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Swiss flag in infoboxes

Hi, I noticed the Swiss flags are quite large in the infoboxes for nation at xxx games pages. Is there away to reduce the sizing? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:42, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

On another note, is it possible to add a link to closing ceremony flag bearers? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

It's the downside of having the Swiss flag being square. I suppose we could add in a size param to the template, but then we'd have to retrofit all hundred-odd instances of the flag. Not sure if it's worth it for that.

As for flag bearers, wouldn't it be possible to just add "(Opening)" and "(Closing)" to the param, e.g. |flagbearer=Joe Bloggs (Opening)(br)Jane Doe (Closing)? Otherwise, yes, it's possible, but it seems a little unnecessary? Willing to discuss it further though. Primefac (talk) 22:55, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

I agree regarding the Swiss flag. It isn't a big problem, but its huge lol.

As for the flag bearers, that is fine (this is what was done for Sochi), but the infobox does not link to the closing flag bearers page. I think it would be best if we had two lines one for the opening and one for the closing. Most, if not all countries have different flag bearers. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:18, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Ah, didn't realize that we started doing separate pages (I took a look at 2004 Summer and it just had the Opening). Yeah, I'll code something up. Primefac (talk) 23:29, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Perfect thank you! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Request on 00:23:24, 22 January 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Comics Creator Pages

• Comics Creator Pages (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Adam Riches (illustrator) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, this is the first page about someone I've tried to create, so I'm still getting the hang of things...

I see that you said it was denied on the basis of primary sources, but I'm trying to understand what exactly I was supposed to do differently? I got nearly all the information from interviews, which were either through larger publications like newspapers, or comic book news websites. Wouldn't the most reliable source of information be directly from the person's own words in interviews? There are many other sites that have written things about him, like the "most villains on a cover" piece, but those speak primarily to details like the release dates of his work, and not anything about him personally.

If the article were to only list information such as that (the books he has worked on and nothing else about him personally), while it would probably make for a far less interesting article, would that have a higher likelihood of approval, since none of the information was actually spoken by the person the article is about?

Sorry for the confusion, just trying to understand where I went wrong and how to fix it, because I put a lot of work into this as my first attempt at an article. Thanks. Comics Creator Pages (talk) 00:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Comics Creator Pages, the issue with using PRIMARY sources like interviews is that it's not independently verified. An interview is fine for verifying something like a birth date or other non-contentious material, but (to use an example from the draft) saying "Riches designed the costumes for X, Y, and Z" and only referencing his artwork is not verification; all it shows is that he designed the art (which anyone can do) and there is no indication that said artwork was actually used. I could write the plot lines for a hundred episodes of Dr Who but if they're never used on the show they're just fan fiction.

To ping on your second paragraph, we're not here to make "interesting" articles, but factually accurate ones. Sometimes that means it is "boring", but if Riches is as well-known as the current draft makes him out to be, then there should be no issue with finding sourcing in reliable, independent works. But at the end of the day, if you cannot find a non-primary source for verification, and someone might say "I don't think this is true", then the information should probably not be included on the page. Primefac (talk) 12:55, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Crystalball

Hmm...Predictions and all.....Remember it?Winged Blades^Godric 14:13, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Yup, entirely unsurprising. Primefac (talk) 14:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

​On that subject, though, this seems a bit like gravedancing, no? Primefac (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

That was a nice template:) never knew about it! And, yeah, that was badly-worded.What seems to be the case is that (in all probabilities) he has used throw-away accs. prior to the PE-Saga.The part. account was netted only because he re-choose to use it, very recently, after keeping it dormant for years, once his using it to cast a !vote in his own-nom-AFD was met.Winged Blades^Godric 15:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Railway in Haryana

Hi, I was wonder why my edits were revdel'd on the Railway in Haryana. All I did was added sections, and ce'd it a bit. I never even noticed the copyvio bit. scope_creep (talk) 16:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Sometimes copyvios don't show up on the report. I've done about 15 this morning already, but I seem to recall this one I had to manually input the URL into the copyvios tool to get a match. Primefac (talk) 16:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I never saw it, but why was my revisions revdel'd, is it not wide of the mark? None of the stuff I did, which were section heads, were copyvio? :::I looking more for the reason. It has happened to me before, with Diannaa, removing huge chunks of articles, which I don't mind. But all did I did was approve it out of Afc, and add section heads. There shouldn't be any revdel next to my edits. scope_creep (talk) 16:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Because the offending text was present before you edited, and removed after you finished editing. All revisions holding copyright violations are removed. Primefac (talk) 16:44, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Right, of course it must work that way. Reet. scope_creep (talk) 16:55, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

pings

Can anon editors ping others using {ping}, {u}, {re} or something like that? Neither WP:ECHO, nor mw:Help:Echo#Technical details are clear about it. —usernamekiran(talk) 22:57, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

pinging myself at Usernamekiran, while logged out.117.200.192.24 (talk) 22:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I just pinged myself as an anon. Anon can ping. Echo @Usernamekiran:—usernamekiran(talk) 23:03, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

One cant ping their own account. :-/
I apologise for using your talkpage as testwiki. Kindly dont get mad at me. I did it for the sake of science. See you around.
—usernamekiran(talk) 23:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Science is always an acceptable excuse! Primefac (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Rovshan Muradov

Hi Primefac. I saw yesterday you deleted a page I had created. Could you please tell me the reason why it was speedily deleted? There were written "variety reasons". Can I still edit that? Or can I now create a new page with the same name and upload new content? Thanks.Emmmka (talk) 07:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Emmmka

Emmmka, the primary reason why I deleted the page was that it was copied directly from another website. Wikipedia takes WP:copyright violations very seriously, and if the violation is serious enough the entire page is deleted. You are welcome to recreate the page, but you must write it in your own words.

As you rewrite your page, please remember to write everything from a neutral point of view. Superlatives like "prestigious institution" and mission statements should rarely if ever be used. Just something to keep in mind. Primefac (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)