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Thanks for posting a warning to my userpage. I'll try not to be overly aggressive, although it can be very frustrating at times in AFD. However I am confused about this one https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Sam_Chui&diff=prev&oldid=844364126 I don't see how it's abusive to give an opinion on AFD policy? Is it the argument (we shouldn't delete drafts so easily) or the tone of what I say that you object to? If it's the former, I have to confess that I don't understand as I see users regularly using abusive language to deride other editors particularly non-english speakers drafters. If it's the latter I apologise and will try to explain myself more clearly. [[User:Egaoblai|Egaoblai]] ([[User talk:Egaoblai|talk]]) 21:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC) |
Thanks for posting a warning to my userpage. I'll try not to be overly aggressive, although it can be very frustrating at times in AFD. However I am confused about this one https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Sam_Chui&diff=prev&oldid=844364126 I don't see how it's abusive to give an opinion on AFD policy? Is it the argument (we shouldn't delete drafts so easily) or the tone of what I say that you object to? If it's the former, I have to confess that I don't understand as I see users regularly using abusive language to deride other editors particularly non-english speakers drafters. If it's the latter I apologise and will try to explain myself more clearly. [[User:Egaoblai|Egaoblai]] ([[User talk:Egaoblai|talk]]) 21:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== ''BLP issues on British politics articles'' arbitration case opened == |
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You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles]]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles/Evidence]]. '''Please add your evidence by June 22, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]]. For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]] '''·'''  [[User talk:L235#top|t]] '''·'''  [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) via [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 14:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC) |
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- I generally reply inline to comments posted here, and only rarely use {{replyto}}.
- As of 18:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC), I consider myself aware of the following Discretionary Sanctions: American Politics, Eastern Europe, India-Pakistan, BLPs (Biographies of Living Persons), and Infoboxes. I am also aware of the Arab-Israeli conflict DS, but attempt to avoid editing in that area. Please feel it necessary to alert me to any other Discretionary Sanctions that I should be aware of. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Ohio gubernatorial election, 2018
Apparently fair play is not going to happen on Wikipedia. Constance gadell-newton has specifically give me permission to use her photograph but apparently sock puppets don't like it cause it challenges their agenda. I have the right to publish it and I'm not going to relinquish it Wikipedia is a public accessible news product then any RFC allowing third parties access should be finalized. Dael4 (talk) 23:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)@Dael4:: Assuming we're talking about commons:File:Img-constanceprofilesml.png. Do you hold the copyright to this work? Not "Did she give you permission to use it?". Did you take this picture? Did you, and only you make all alterations to the version uploaded? Regarding the sockpuppetry - have you made a report to WP:SPI? SQLQuery me! 23:46, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
NO need to have any copyright here other than CC. The owning party would ask for adjudication. You or any others here are not authorized to question it when it is in wikicommons as a CC picture. I am personal friends of the owner. Should I make a report to WP:SPI that is my business. If you would like to help. That would be great. Dael4 (talk) 04:58, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've got a lot of issues with this editor, but I'm willing to take them at their word that they have the proper licensing for this photograph. I also trust that they don't know what they're talking about with "sock puppets".
- As far as "third-party candidates" in general, there are two things going on. The first is that political candidates are generally not considered notable based on campaign coverage. This is to combat promotion and POV issues. Second, these types of things are determined by consensus. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a repository of all campaign information. You should check out Ballotpedia if you want that. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:04, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Is it ok with you if I withdraw this from Afd? There's no way it will get consensus to delete or redirect. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 10:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
German war effort arbitration case opened
You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 30, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/German war effort/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
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- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 May. It will be on all wikis from 24 May (calendar).
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17:34, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
A quick message from DemocraticSocialism
Hello! Just thought you should know that I undid your revision in the Cold War 2 page, and forgot to put down my reasons. My reasoning is that it's always good to have a map of a conflict (or pseudo-conflict, I should say) handy on an article about a conflict. (For example, a map of the world in WW2 in the WW2 article). If you disagree, let me know, and I can take the subject to the talk section of the Cold War 2 article, for other editors to decide on a consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DemocraticSocialism (talk • contribs) 03:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
- I do disagree, I feel the map is unhelpful, WP:OR, and WP:SYNTH. I intend to comment on a noticeboard as soon as I have time to do so. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've pinged you to my thread at WP:NOR/N. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:56, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Undoing my contribution
What exactly was it that motivated you to undo one of my changes? For the readers of the article it would be very informative to know about the newspaper's scientific skills. 80.71.142.166 (talk) 06:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Vital article counts
Do you think it would be a good idea for a bot to calculate the total number of vital articles per section? It is a pain to update article counts in different section headers whenever adding an article, and I think a bot would do the job quicker and much more accurately. Such a bot can tabulate the article counts daily, or maybe twice daily. feminist (talk) 14:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've done this for the per-page counts on the main page (semi-automated for now). I'll look at updating the section counts by bot when I have time, probably not for another week or two. (Holiday weekend in the US means less editing time) power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, and take your time. feminist (talk) 03:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've taken this to WP:BTR, looks like Firefly is doing it. feminist (talk) 06:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018
ACTRIAL:
- WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
Deletion tags
- Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.
Backlog drive:
- A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.
Editathons
- There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
Paid editing - new policy
- Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
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- The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.
News
- Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
- The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.
Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much
The RfC discussion to eliminate portals was closed May 12, with the statement "There exists a strong consensus against deleting or even deprecating portals at this time." This was made possible because you and others came to the rescue. Thank you for speaking up.
By the way, the current issue of the Signpost features an article with interviews about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.
I'd also like to let you know that the Portals WikiProject is working hard to make sure your support of portals was not in vain. Toward that end, we have been working diligently to innovate portals, while building, updating, upgrading, and maintaining them. The project has grown to 80 members so far, and has become a beehive of activity.
Our two main goals at this time are to automate portals (in terms of refreshing, rotating, and selecting content), and to develop a one-page model in order to make obsolete and eliminate most of the 150,000 subpages from the portal namespace by migrating their functions to the portal base pages, using technologies such as selective transclusion. Please feel free to join in on any of the many threads of development at the WikiProject's talk page, or just stop by to see how we are doing. If you have any questions about portals or portal development, that is the best place to ask them.
If you would like to keep abreast of developments on portals, keep in mind that the project's members receive updates on their talk pages. The updates are also posted here, for your convenience.
Again, we can't thank you enough for your support of portals, and we hope to make you proud of your decision. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 07:12, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use global preferences on most wikis. This means you can set preferences for all wikis at the same time. Before this you had to change them on each individual wiki. Global preferences will come to the Wikipedias later this week. [1][2]
- It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked. [3]
- Wikidata now supports lexicographical data. This helps describe words.
- There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups. [4]
- Some rare invisible Unicode characters have recently been banned from page titles. This includes soft hyphens (U+00AD) and left-to-right (U+2066) and right-to-left (U+2067) isolate markers. Existing pages with these characters will soon be moved by a script. [5]
- There's a new Wikimedia Foundation team to support the Wikimedia technical communities. It's called the Technical Engagement team. Most of the team members did similar work in other teams before this. [6]
Problems
- Some translatable pages are showing old translations instead of latest ones. The cause of this issue has been fixed. We will update all pages automatically to show the latest translations. [7]
Changes later this week
- There will be a new special page named PasswordPolicies. This page gives information about the password rules for each user group on that wiki. [8]
- A new way to see moved paragraphs in diffs is coming to most wikis. This is to make it easier to find the moved paragraphs and the changes in them. [9]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 May. It will be on all wikis from 31 May (calendar).
- Wikis can enable Citoid to provide automatic reference look-up in the visual editor and the 2017 wikitext editor. This is complex. The tool will now disable itself if the configuration isn't correct. It has warned about this in the JavaScript console since February. Check that your wiki is configured correctly. You can ask for help if you need it. [10]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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Future changes
- Content Translation drafts which have not been updated in over a year will be removed. This allows other users to translate those articles. [11]
- A survey is collecting information on what users think about how Wikimedia wiki pages are loaded. This information could be used in future development. [12]
- Some wikis will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 30 May and 13 June. Wikis with fewer than 100 linter issues in the main namespace in all high-priority linter categories will switch. This includes Wikidata. Tidy will probably be removed on all wikis in the first week of July. [13][14]
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12:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
General Sanctions notification - Cryptocurrencies
A community decision has authorised the use of general sanctions for pages related to the blockchain and cryptocurrencies. The details of these sanctions are described here. All pages that are broadly related to these topics are subject to a one revert per twenty-four hours restriction, as described here.
General sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimise disruption in controversial topic areas. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to these topics that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behaviour, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. An editor can only be sanctioned after he or she has been made aware that general sanctions are in effect. This notification is meant to inform you that sanctions are authorised in these topic areas, which you have been editing. It is only effective if it is logged here. Before continuing to edit pages in these topic areas, please familiarise yourself with the general sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fortibus (talk • contribs)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The MonoBook skin has been optimised for mobile devices. It now looks different. [15]
- Planet Wikimedia collects blogs about Wikimedia. It will now use the Rawdog feed aggregator to do this instead of Planet. [16][17]
- Redirect links in Special:WhatLinksHere now link to the original page and not the target page. This was done earlier and changed the used messages on some pages. This was a problem for wikis that customized the message. A new change fixed this by using the old messages with one more parameter for customization. Wikis that already changed their customized messages will have to move the customization back again. [18]
Problems
- You will not be able to edit some wikis between 06:00 and 06:30 UTC on 13 June. You can see if your wiki is one of them.
- MassMessage did not work 24–28 May. This is also why last week's Tech News was late. [19]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 June. It will be on all wikis from 7 June (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 5 June at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
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Future changes
- The new filters for edit review tools and interface for watchlists will leave beta. This is planned to happen in June or early July. [20][21]
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21:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Kate Spade
On 6 June 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Kate Spade, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:30, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred Hubbell has been accepted
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.
You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.
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Calliopejen1 (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2018 (UTC)Power, I'm surprised to see you using the AfC process to create articles. Is this just a preference of yours? You are qualified to create articles directly. In fact you are also qualified for the WP:autopatrolled user right, which would automatically mark your articles as patrolled. Is there some reason why you don't have that user right, some restriction or something, or shall I give it to you? --MelanieN (talk) 15:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't create the Hubbell article; staffers from their campaign did; as notability was disputed the first time and I'd removed a lot of promo before re-submitting, I didn't want to approve the article myself. I simply haven't bothered to ask for autopatrolled yet; I think I crossed the 25 article barrier 2 weeks ago (depending on how you count). power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- OK, I have given you the Autopatrolled right. The “articles created” utility gives you credit for creating 46 articles. Sure, some are stubs or forks or DABs, but the bottom line is that you clearly know what you are doing when it comes to article creation. BTW this doesn’t really add anything to your own abilities; it mostly just lifts a tiny bit of the load from the New Page Patrollers. --MelanieN (talk) 17:11, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- Also of note is that 12 of the pages were created in 2004, and I wasn't counting them for creations for auto-patrolled purposes. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter. We are allowed some discretion, and you obviously know how to create (and self-patrol) an article. You are a New Page
PatrollerReviewer yourself for heaven's sake. --MelanieN (talk) 18:22, 7 June 2018 (UTC)- *nods* I was just explaining why I felt I had only met the official criteria very recently. Thanks for the extra bit. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:27, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter. We are allowed some discretion, and you obviously know how to create (and self-patrol) an article. You are a New Page
- Also of note is that 12 of the pages were created in 2004, and I wasn't counting them for creations for auto-patrolled purposes. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:14, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- OK, I have given you the Autopatrolled right. The “articles created” utility gives you credit for creating 46 articles. Sure, some are stubs or forks or DABs, but the bottom line is that you clearly know what you are doing when it comes to article creation. BTW this doesn’t really add anything to your own abilities; it mostly just lifts a tiny bit of the load from the New Page Patrollers. --MelanieN (talk) 17:11, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Arguments to make at AFD
Thanks for posting a warning to my userpage. I'll try not to be overly aggressive, although it can be very frustrating at times in AFD. However I am confused about this one https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Sam_Chui&diff=prev&oldid=844364126 I don't see how it's abusive to give an opinion on AFD policy? Is it the argument (we shouldn't delete drafts so easily) or the tone of what I say that you object to? If it's the former, I have to confess that I don't understand as I see users regularly using abusive language to deride other editors particularly non-english speakers drafters. If it's the latter I apologise and will try to explain myself more clearly. Egaoblai (talk) 21:37, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
BLP issues on British politics articles arbitration case opened
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles/Evidence. Please add your evidence by June 22, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:17, 8 June 2018 (UTC)