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Audi Field Photo

Can a photo of the exterior of Audi Field be added to Wikipedia? SportsFan007 (talk) 12:47, 16 July 2018 (UTC)SportsFan007

@SportsFan007: If you own the rights to it (i.e. you took it yourself) you can add it. If it's copyrighted, then no. I already uploaded a free image I took myself, it's further down in the main article, but if you or any other Wikipedians live in or near DC, you're welcome to head over there yourself and take a better one. But using copyrighted material is a major no-no. Smartyllama (talk) 13:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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Allan Okello

Do you have:

1. A source for this claim?; and
2. Consensus/policy that states playing in that competition confers notability?

Thanks! GiantSnowman 15:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: [1] indicates he played in eight games in the CAF Champions League in 2017 and 2018, seven as a starter. Smartyllama (talk) 15:13, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Transfermarkt is not a reliable source, as established at RSN... GiantSnowman 15:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Then why is it cited in his article? 15:19, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

It's been removed as non-reliable. GiantSnowman 15:19, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

In any case, [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6] all confirm it as well, and all but the second one count towards GNG too. When combined with the sources in the article, NFOOTY is moot - he clearly passes GNG. Smartyllama (talk) 15:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, could you point me towards the discussion that says Transfarmarkt is not a reliable source? I've seen it claimed it's unreliable before but I haven't actually seen the discussion or an explanation as to why. Smartyllama (talk) 15:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

There have been a few discussions - it's basically a Wiki and can be edited by anyone. Q1 is satisfied - what about Q2 please? GiantSnowman 15:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I seem to recall a discussion a while back that playing in a major continental competition established notability, but I could be mistaken. I have to go to a training session in a few minutes, but I'll try to track it down later. But it's moot in this case since there are more than enough sources to establish GNG. Smartyllama (talk)

I'm not sure about GNG, most is ROUTINE transfer and/or 'wonderkid' coverage. No rush on this, I'm not going to AFD until we exhaust this discussion. GiantSnowman 15:31, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I stand corrected. There was a discussion about conferring inherent notability about players who play in continental club championships, but it was rejected. See [7]. However, most of the opposition appeared to be based on misunderstanding of the proposal, concern about the specific phrasing, or the rather bizarre rationale that NFOOTY is already too restrictive and the proposal would make it more restrictive, when in fact it would do the opposite (though one user also supported it for precisely that reason, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.) So it may be time to revisit the issue. I still think Okello meets GNG, though, making it moot in his particular case. Smartyllama (talk) 20:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for correcting my English in the Tysons section. Yes I meant formerly not formally. Shakbok (talk) 12:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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