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Rebbeca Marie Gomez, known by Becky G (Inglewood, March 2, 1997), is an singer, actress, model, rapper and dancer. Gomez first gained recognition in 2011 when she began posting videos of herself covering popular songs online. One of her videos caught the attention of producer Dr. Luke, who subsequently offered her a joint record deal with Kemosabe Records and RCA Records. While working on her debut effort, Gomez collaborated with artists will.i.am, Cody Simpson and Cher Lloyd. Her official debut single, "Becky from the Block" (2013), received a positive reception upon its release. She released her debut extended play, Play It Again (2013), later that same year. Her second single, "Can't Get Enough" (2014), featured guest vocals from Pitbull and went on to top the Latin Rhythm Airplay chart in the United States. <ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G |url=https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3121384/bio |website=IMDb |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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== Associated acts == |
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Becky's parents, Alejandra Gomez and FrankGomez , were high school sweethearts who met at Santa Monica High School. They had Becky, her brothers Frankie and Alex, and Becky's younger sister Stephanie. After the family lost their home due to a ballooning mortgage payment and went to live in a small converted garage, a nine-year-old Becky decided to start a career in entertainment to bolster her family's finances. She looked for child talent agencies, found an agent and began getting work in commercials, voiceovers and modeling. Becky has attributed being part of a large extended family with giving her the attention-getting skills that helped her achieve entertainment success, and she shared some details about her struggle with anxiety, crediting her family's support with helping her cope with this issue. <ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}]</ref> |
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In December 2017, Becky made a statement on social media about her half-sister, who had just turned 18. She had known about this sister since she was 13, but the two had had limited contact. After sharing her hopes that their relationship could further develop, Becky wrote,''I want you to know that I wish you all the best in life and that you find happiness wherever your heart takes you.''<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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Are any of the associated acts "Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together" ? -- [[User:Beardo|Beardo]] ([[User talk:Beardo|talk]]) 06:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC) |
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== Music Career == |
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Becky was writing her own music at 11 and learned to play the guitar at 13. Her cover of Kanye West and Jay Z’s "Otis," one of several cover videos she posted on YouTube, caught the eye of producer Dr. Luke. In 2011 she signed with his Kemosabe/RCA Records. Her EP, Play It Again, came out in 2013. |
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Among the artists Becky has collaborated with are will.i.am and Pitbull (their "Can’t Get Enough" reached No. 1 on the Billboard Latin Rhythmic Airplay chart); she has writing credits on Cody Simpson's "Wish You Were Here" and Cher Lloyd's "Oath." In addition, she's toured with singers such as Katy Perry, Demi Lovato and Fifth Harmony. <ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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Has she even worked with Austin Mahone ? -- [[User:Beardo|Beardo]] ([[User talk:Beardo|talk]]) 06:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC) |
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=== Spanish Music === |
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== Orphaned references in [[:Becky G]] == |
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Becky initially found success singing in English but began to feel disconnected from tunes that had been written by and for others. By making Spanish-language music, she regained inspiration while staying true to herself. Her Spanish singles include "Sola," "Todo Cambio," "Sin Pijama" (with Natti Natasha) and "Mayores."<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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The video for "Mayores" — a catchy song that features Puerto Rican rapper Bad Bunny — has more than one billion views on YouTube. Becky has said that videos for her Spanish-language songs should help the music reach English-speaking audiences, as they'll be able to grasp meaning via these "mini movies.". Becky has admitted her Spanish wasn't perfect when she started creating Spanish-language music. However, she was still proud and happy to get in touch with her heritag. <ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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== Television and Movies == |
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<li>From [[Jessie J discography]]: {{cite web|url=http://irish-charts.com/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Jessie+J|title=Irish Charts > Jessie J|publisher=irish-charts.com Hung Medien|accessdate=2011-05-12}}</li> |
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<li>From [[Cher Lloyd discography]]: {{cite web|url=http://irish-charts.com/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Cher+Lloyd|title=Discography Cher Lloyd|work=''irish-charts.com''|publisher=Hung Medien|accessdate=26 February 2012}}</li> |
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<b>Reference named "UK":</b><ul> |
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In 2015 Becky guest starred as Valentina on Fox's Empire. She made her big-screen debut as Trini, the Yellow Ranger, in 2017's film version of the 1990s TV show Power Rangers. Trini has been called the first LGBT protagonist to appear in a big-budget superhero movie, though the character's sexuality was only addressed in a brief bit of dialogue. Becky also voiced a character in Gnome Alone (2017) and starred in the family adventure film A.X.L. (2018).<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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<li>From [[Jenny from the Block]]: [http://www.chartstats.com/songinfo.php?id=30446 Chart Stats – Jennifer Lopez – Jenny from the Block] [[UK Singles Chart]]. Chart Stats.</li> |
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<li>From [[Cody Simpson discography]]: {{cite web|url=http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/_/cody%20simpson/|title=Cody Simpson > UK Charts|publisher=[[Official Charts Company]]}}</li> |
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<li>From [[Cher Lloyd discography]]: Peak chart positions for singles in the United Kingdom: |
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* For all except where noted: {{cite web|url=http://www.chartstats.com/artistinfo.php?id=12986|title=Chart Stats > Cher Lloyd|publisher=Chart Stats.com|accessdate=24 March 2012|archiveurl=http://archive.is/GEW7|archivedate=6 December 2012}} |
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* For "Heroes": {{cite web|url=http://www.chartstats.com/release.php?release=49707|title=Chart Stats > 'Heroes' by X Factor Finalists 2010|publisher=Chart Stats.com|accessdate=24 March 2012}}</li> |
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<font color="#888800">⚡</font>]] 17:06, 8 October 2013 (UTC) |
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=== Official Website === |
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Becky G Official Website<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G |url=https://www.iambeckyg.com/ |website=Official Website |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref>. |
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== Age == |
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<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G |url=https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3121384/bio |website=IMDb |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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Is there a particular reason why her date of birth / age were removed? |
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<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G Biography |url=https://www.biography.com/people/becky-g |website=Biography |publisher=A&E Television Networks |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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:Perhaps lack of [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 20:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC) |
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<ref>{{cite web |title=Becky G |url=https://www.iambeckyg.com/ |website=Official Website |accessdate=26 October 2018}}</ref> |
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== Use of the word "queer" to describe her character in Power Rangers film == |
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One or more editors are objecting to the use of "queer" in the article, like [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&type=revision&diff=772548897&oldid=772259794] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&type=revision&diff=772643900&oldid=772566823], and deciding to substitute "LGBT" in its place. While I myself would favor the latter, being less offensive and more neutral, the identified [http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/power-rangers-gay-character-storyline-yellow-ranger-plot-explained-987236 source] backing the info ("Gomez played the Yellow Ranger, Trini, in the 2017 superhero film ''Power Rangers''. Her performance was received positively and made universal headlines, being the first queer Power Ranger.") uses the more objectionable term clearly in the heading of the article, while it also uses LGBT in the body. So what do we go with here? [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 15:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC) |
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:I have transcluded a discussion about the same issue on another article. Unless someone can think of a reason otherwise, then I suggest we go with something similar here. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 15:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC) |
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=== Transclusion of related discussion === |
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{{#section-h:Talk:Power Rangers (film)|Queer VS Lesbian}} |
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== Flip-flopping between American and Mexican-American in the lede == |
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I've been seeing editors changing her from being American to Mexican-American and back several times in this article [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&diff=prev&oldid=770487697][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&diff=prev&oldid=770494891][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&diff=prev&oldid=779603272][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&diff=prev&oldid=788295631][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Becky_G&type=revision&diff=788646612&oldid=788295631], and I wonder which classification is correct? If we're talking about her nationality based on birth, it would be just American. But the article says she is of Mexican descent (thru at least one parent or grandparent, though it doesn't explicitly say in the article). My thinking is that if she is to be classified Mexican-American, she must have dual citizenship (U.S. and Mexico) and there is no mention of that in the article. I have hesitated to revert the wrong classification because I'm not sure. [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 15:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC) |
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:Mexican-American is an ethnicity classification and doesn't go in intro per [[WP:OPENPARA]]. She is a natural born US citizen and unlikely that she has Mexican citizenship also. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 23:33, 2 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::{{re|Geraldo Perez}} While this does not directly involve this article, I noticed in the article for her song "[[Mayores]]", it starts out like this: {{tq|"Mayores" is a song by ''Mexican-American'' singer Becky G featuring vocals from Puerto Rican Rapper Bad Bunny.}} Should this ethnicity classification be replaced likewise in the articles about her songs and other work (i.e., replacing "Mexican-American" with "American")? [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 23:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:::[[WP:OPENPARA]] is mostly about the nationality of the subject itself, basically the song, so doesn't really apply when talking about other things of importance. In the example I don't see how the nationality adjectives about either principal are really necessary. Just identify them as "singer Becky G" and "rapper Bad Bunny". [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 00:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== Suggestion == |
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In the introduction of the article Gomez's nationality (American) should be set apart of her ethnicity (Mexican) due to that the first one refers exclusively to where someone was born and putting both together would be unnecessary, plus her ethnicity is also implicitly mentioned further in the article and if needed her ethnicity could be added further in the article. [[User:Sebasdiazorozco|Sebasdiazorozco]] ([[User talk:Sebasdiazorozco|talk]]) 15:46, 28 October 2017 (UTC) |
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:Nothing in the article indicates that her ancestry has anything to do with why she is notable. Covered sufficiently in early life section. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 23:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== Occupation bloat == |
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Occupations are things she is notable for not everything she has ever done in her life. One genre listed is [[pop rap]] which is a singing genre not a pure rap one so [[rapper]] as an occupation is subsumed into singer which is sufficient for the article. She has no notability as a model backed up with nothing in the article mentioning it. Looking at her "songwriting" credits it looks like the normal courtesy ones singers get when they give input to a team of songwriters who actually write songs as a living. So songwriting is subsumed into singer again. Also notable songwriters generally write for other people too as well as write melody and lyrics. I'd expect something in the article if she were notable for that as an occupation. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 00:19, 3 December 2017 (UTC) |
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:Agreed. Generally speaking, occupations are continuous things. For example, Asher Angel from ''Andi Mack'' is an actor as he has been acting on the show since it started. Now, there's also a music video—"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fypc663-Mx0 Snow Globe]"—in which he's the only singer for Disney Channel's holiday month. That doesn't make him a singer as an occupation, though. If he starts doing more music videos, then probably yes. [[User:Amaury|Amaury]] (<small>[[User talk:Amaury|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Amaury|contribs]]</small>) 00:53, 3 December 2017 (UTC) |
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== New projects == |
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After the release of "Mad Love", updates on her new projects have stopped. There aren't any mentions of her two new films or new singles. This are all important and thus have to be added to the page's Career section. [[User:Beastbrat|Beastbrat]] ([[User talk:Beastbrat|talk]]) 18:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Rebbeca? == |
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Are we sure about the unusual spelling of her name? The cited reference is blocked in my country. It's late in my country and I must be up early, but there are [https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=KdtkW8SrNMGCgAa-7764Aw&q=%22rebecca+gomez%22+%22becky+g%22&oq=%22rebecca+gomez%22+%22becky+g%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3...0.0.0.4622.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.LA09y92aUCw 11,600 results] for ""rebecca gomez" "becky g"" versus [https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=PttkW_uvJqGKgAain7e4Bw&q=%22rebbeca+gomez%22+%22becky+g%22&oq=%22rebbeca+gomez%22+%22becky+g%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13i30k1j0i8i13i30k1j0i8i30k1.116260.119556.0.120436.2.2.0.0.0.0.209.365.0j1j1.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.2.362....0.U5sEby1FeuE 11,400 results] for ""rebbeca gomez" "becky g"".--<span style="background:#FF0;font-family:Rockwell Extra Bold">[[User:Launchballer|<u style="color:#00F">Laun</u>]][[User talk:Launchballer|<u style="color:#00F">chba</u>]][[Special:Contribs/Launchballer|<u style="color:#00F">ller</u>]]</span> 22:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Yes, her name is spelled Rebbeca. She has a picture of her on Instagram from about 2015 and it is spelled that way. Most of the time, editors for different magazines misspell her name. [[User:Beastbrat|Beastbrat]] ([[User talk:Beastbrat|talk]]) 22:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
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== Details on projects == |
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I see you have added her other releases to the main page. One thing we should add, though, are the peaks of her songs on charts and how much they have sold. For example, "Mayores" reached number 3 on the Hot Latin Songs Chart and number 1 in Spain (as well as other places), and has over 1 billion views. Similarly, "Sin Pijama" is also doing well. We should add some of the peaks and accomplishments the songs have. [[User:Beastbrat|Beastbrat]] ([[User talk:Beastbrat|talk]]) 22:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC) |
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== Single peaks, awards and nominations, and more == |
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Almost every other artist's page includes peaks of songs, views, certifications, and sales. "Mayores" has had high peaks worldwide and has over 1B views; similarly "Sin Pijama" will almost reach the latter milestone and, again, has been doing well in alot of charts. Both have entered the Hot 100, reached the top 5 on the Hot Latin Songs Chart, and both have been number 1 in Spain and other places. She has also been nominated in several award ceremonies this year such as the Latin AMAs and thus should be included in the page. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Beastbrat|Beastbrat]] ([[User talk:Beastbrat#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Beastbrat|contribs]]) 22:04, 2 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Not a redir to Oath_(song).
there is some missing closing tag on the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielMWoolnough (talk • contribs) 20:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Associated acts
The current list of associated acts in the inbox seems excessive and not in accordance with Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts- "The following uses of this field should be avoided: ... One-time collaboration for a single, or on a single song".
Are any of the associated acts "Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together" ? -- Beardo (talk) 06:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Has she even worked with Austin Mahone ? -- Beardo (talk) 06:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Becky G
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Becky G's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "ire":
- From Jessie J discography: "Irish Charts > Jessie J". irish-charts.com Hung Medien. Retrieved 2011-05-12.
- From Cher Lloyd discography: "Discography Cher Lloyd". irish-charts.com. Hung Medien. Retrieved 26 February 2012.
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Reference named "UK":
- From Jenny from the Block: Chart Stats – Jennifer Lopez – Jenny from the Block UK Singles Chart. Chart Stats.
- From Cody Simpson discography: "Cody Simpson > UK Charts". Official Charts Company.
- From Cher Lloyd discography: Peak chart positions for singles in the United Kingdom:
- For all except where noted: "Chart Stats > Cher Lloyd". Chart Stats.com. Archived from the original on 6 December 2012. Retrieved 24 March 2012.
- For "Heroes": "Chart Stats > 'Heroes' by X Factor Finalists 2010". Chart Stats.com. Retrieved 24 March 2012.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 17:06, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Age
Is there a particular reason why her date of birth / age were removed?
- Perhaps lack of reliable sources. Materialscientist (talk) 20:51, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Use of the word "queer" to describe her character in Power Rangers film
One or more editors are objecting to the use of "queer" in the article, like [1] and [2], and deciding to substitute "LGBT" in its place. While I myself would favor the latter, being less offensive and more neutral, the identified source backing the info ("Gomez played the Yellow Ranger, Trini, in the 2017 superhero film Power Rangers. Her performance was received positively and made universal headlines, being the first queer Power Ranger.") uses the more objectionable term clearly in the heading of the article, while it also uses LGBT in the body. So what do we go with here? MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- I have transcluded a discussion about the same issue on another article. Unless someone can think of a reason otherwise, then I suggest we go with something similar here. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
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The source calls Trini queer and not lesbian or gay. Which term should we use? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 16:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- This is rather confusing as "Queer" has been applied on either terms since they both mean "gay", whether male or female. Does a gay woman referred to as "lesbian" or a "gay woman"? Bluesphere 16:35, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Emir of Wikipedia and Bluesphere: Hi all. I'm here because at least two readers emailed OTRS about this issue. I may be missing something, but Becky G's character, Trini Kwan / Yellow Ranger, does not appear to be described as "queer" in any of the three sources that are cited: [3][4][5]. The Variety source has one paragraph which actually seems to indicate that her sexuality is mentioned only briefly in the film:
"Becky G portrays the Yellow Ranger, Trini, a teen who questions her sexuality in a brief and slightly opaque reference in the film."
(emphasis mine). I think we should remove the term "queer" or, barring that, find a better source that explicitly calls the character "queer". Mz7 (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2017 (UTC)- @Mz7: At the time this was the source.[1] As you can see the term is used in this source, but I would be open to hearing if you have anymore to share on this matter. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Emir of Wikipedia: Ah, thanks for that link. The readers' objections were more against the term "queer" itself, since, as you know, it was once considered derogatory. The Hollywood Reporter article only seems to refer to the character as "queer" in the article's title. I think the more relevant point that all of the sources are focusing on is the fact that the character questions her sexual orientation during one brief scene in the film, not having "figured it out yet". Perhaps we could rewrite the character description to something along the lines of:
I am personally not against using the term "queer", but I think this is a more accurate representation of the sources. Mz7 (talk) 22:20, 27 March 2017 (UTC)Becky G as Trini Kwan / Yellow Ranger, a Power Ranger who questions her sexual orientation during one scene in the film.[2][3]
- I can accept a rewrite along those lines. Please don't remove any of the other sources used there there though as they are used elsewhere in the article. Thanks for your cooperation. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:26, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for your quick responsiveness. Mz7 (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- I can accept a rewrite along those lines. Please don't remove any of the other sources used there there though as they are used elsewhere in the article. Thanks for your cooperation. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:26, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Emir of Wikipedia: Ah, thanks for that link. The readers' objections were more against the term "queer" itself, since, as you know, it was once considered derogatory. The Hollywood Reporter article only seems to refer to the character as "queer" in the article's title. I think the more relevant point that all of the sources are focusing on is the fact that the character questions her sexual orientation during one brief scene in the film, not having "figured it out yet". Perhaps we could rewrite the character description to something along the lines of:
- @Mz7: At the time this was the source.[1] As you can see the term is used in this source, but I would be open to hearing if you have anymore to share on this matter. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Emir of Wikipedia and Bluesphere: Hi all. I'm here because at least two readers emailed OTRS about this issue. I may be missing something, but Becky G's character, Trini Kwan / Yellow Ranger, does not appear to be described as "queer" in any of the three sources that are cited: [3][4][5]. The Variety source has one paragraph which actually seems to indicate that her sexuality is mentioned only briefly in the film:
References
- ^ "'Power Rangers' Breaks Ground With First Queer Big-Screen Superhero". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 27 March 2017.
- ^ "'Power Rangers' Helmer on LGBTQ Protagonist: 'We Were Truthful About Representing Teenagers'". Variety. March 23, 2017. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
- ^ Couch, Aaron (March 20, 2017). "'Power Rangers' Breaks Ground With First Queer Big-Screen Superhero". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved March 27, 2017.
Flip-flopping between American and Mexican-American in the lede
I've been seeing editors changing her from being American to Mexican-American and back several times in this article [6][7][8][9][10], and I wonder which classification is correct? If we're talking about her nationality based on birth, it would be just American. But the article says she is of Mexican descent (thru at least one parent or grandparent, though it doesn't explicitly say in the article). My thinking is that if she is to be classified Mexican-American, she must have dual citizenship (U.S. and Mexico) and there is no mention of that in the article. I have hesitated to revert the wrong classification because I'm not sure. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Mexican-American is an ethnicity classification and doesn't go in intro per WP:OPENPARA. She is a natural born US citizen and unlikely that she has Mexican citizenship also. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:33, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: While this does not directly involve this article, I noticed in the article for her song "Mayores", it starts out like this:
"Mayores" is a song by Mexican-American singer Becky G featuring vocals from Puerto Rican Rapper Bad Bunny.
Should this ethnicity classification be replaced likewise in the articles about her songs and other work (i.e., replacing "Mexican-American" with "American")? MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:39, 17 December 2017 (UTC)- WP:OPENPARA is mostly about the nationality of the subject itself, basically the song, so doesn't really apply when talking about other things of importance. In the example I don't see how the nationality adjectives about either principal are really necessary. Just identify them as "singer Becky G" and "rapper Bad Bunny". Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Geraldo Perez: While this does not directly involve this article, I noticed in the article for her song "Mayores", it starts out like this:
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Suggestion
In the introduction of the article Gomez's nationality (American) should be set apart of her ethnicity (Mexican) due to that the first one refers exclusively to where someone was born and putting both together would be unnecessary, plus her ethnicity is also implicitly mentioned further in the article and if needed her ethnicity could be added further in the article. Sebasdiazorozco (talk) 15:46, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- Nothing in the article indicates that her ancestry has anything to do with why she is notable. Covered sufficiently in early life section. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Occupation bloat
Occupations are things she is notable for not everything she has ever done in her life. One genre listed is pop rap which is a singing genre not a pure rap one so rapper as an occupation is subsumed into singer which is sufficient for the article. She has no notability as a model backed up with nothing in the article mentioning it. Looking at her "songwriting" credits it looks like the normal courtesy ones singers get when they give input to a team of songwriters who actually write songs as a living. So songwriting is subsumed into singer again. Also notable songwriters generally write for other people too as well as write melody and lyrics. I'd expect something in the article if she were notable for that as an occupation. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. Generally speaking, occupations are continuous things. For example, Asher Angel from Andi Mack is an actor as he has been acting on the show since it started. Now, there's also a music video—"Snow Globe"—in which he's the only singer for Disney Channel's holiday month. That doesn't make him a singer as an occupation, though. If he starts doing more music videos, then probably yes. Amaury (talk | contribs) 00:53, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
New projects
After the release of "Mad Love", updates on her new projects have stopped. There aren't any mentions of her two new films or new singles. This are all important and thus have to be added to the page's Career section. Beastbrat (talk) 18:31, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Rebbeca?
Are we sure about the unusual spelling of her name? The cited reference is blocked in my country. It's late in my country and I must be up early, but there are 11,600 results for ""rebecca gomez" "becky g"" versus 11,400 results for ""rebbeca gomez" "becky g"".--Launchballer 22:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, her name is spelled Rebbeca. She has a picture of her on Instagram from about 2015 and it is spelled that way. Most of the time, editors for different magazines misspell her name. Beastbrat (talk) 22:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Details on projects
I see you have added her other releases to the main page. One thing we should add, though, are the peaks of her songs on charts and how much they have sold. For example, "Mayores" reached number 3 on the Hot Latin Songs Chart and number 1 in Spain (as well as other places), and has over 1 billion views. Similarly, "Sin Pijama" is also doing well. We should add some of the peaks and accomplishments the songs have. Beastbrat (talk) 22:17, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Single peaks, awards and nominations, and more
Almost every other artist's page includes peaks of songs, views, certifications, and sales. "Mayores" has had high peaks worldwide and has over 1B views; similarly "Sin Pijama" will almost reach the latter milestone and, again, has been doing well in alot of charts. Both have entered the Hot 100, reached the top 5 on the Hot Latin Songs Chart, and both have been number 1 in Spain and other places. She has also been nominated in several award ceremonies this year such as the Latin AMAs and thus should be included in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beastbrat (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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