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== If Indie Rock's stylistic origins are in both Post-punk and New Wave... ==
== If Indie Rock's stylistic origins are in both Post-punk and New Wave... ==

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If Indie Rock's stylistic origins are in both Post-punk and New Wave...

Why is Indie Pop only in Post-punk? 18:45, 26 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theburning25 (talk • contribs)

Possible sources for a twee pop article

Twee pop is sorely lacking on Wikipedia. I don't think we can simply dismiss it as being synonymous with indie pop, as it's a movement in its own right. There was a conversation about starting a twee pop article here a few years ago, but nothing seems to have come out it. Right now I'm trying to find sources on which we can base a twee pop article. After a quick search, I found these:

Surely there are more sources? I'm not very good at finding them. Help would be appreciated. Carbrain (talk) 10:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree...Twee was its own separate movement, not just "indie pop" 76.171.240.103 (talk) 15:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No such thing as twee pop. It's just a term coined by American music journalists to describe UK indie pop to their readership. --Ef80 (talk) 14:35, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"No such thing as twee pop. It's just a term" — Huh? Make up your mind, does it exist or doesn't it? Almost every western genre from the last 30 years has been "just a term coined by journalists".--Ilovetopaint (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OR issues

This article has a lot of problems. While I don't disagree with some of the statements, they are not sourced and appear to be only opinions on for example the origins of the genre. The importance of the C86 compilation (and the reissues) is repeatedly overstated, and the term 'C86' was only retrospectively used for bands from the late 80s that had little similarity to most of the bands on the C86 album - the article states that these later bands were influenced by the compilation, but that simply isn't true - they may have been influenced by some of the bands on the compilation (and undoubtedly many others that weren't). This article shouldn't be about the C86 compilation - it really wasn't all that important at the time. The whole 'Roots' section is unsourced - C81 had nothing to do with indie pop (it just had a similar name to C86) and the rise of independent record labels was related but not the same as indie pop (take a look at some of the indie charts from the era - mostly not indie pop). The article states that Talulah Gosh and Razorcuts were yet to emerge in 1986, but Razorcuts had been around since 1984 and were already having indie hits in 1986. --Michig (talk) 06:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an expert on the genre but I had almost all of the same feelings. C86 is overstated. What is indie pop? I still don't really have a clue.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 14:32, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Source for TVU distorted music page

@179.7.100.72: See here --Ilovetopaint (talk) 22:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative pop

Why are "alternative pop" and "alt pop" redirects to this page. Whenever I see either term (and as I've exemplified in pages for albums like Spiders and The Beta Band), it is used to describe a very different style(s) of music than indie pop. - TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 01:30, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Alternative pop" is a term that has no currency. The only source I've ever found that attempts to define it is AllMusic, which calls it "essentially a catch-all term for post-punk bands from the mid-'80s to the mid-'90s." The closest thing to that is indie pop. Other people might think of "alt-pop" as a synonym for art pop, experimental pop, avant-pop, progressive pop, and so on.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, here are a couple of other appearances of these terms: Merriam-Webster.com has an entry for "alternative pop," defining it as "pop music that has broad appeal but that is produced by performers who are outside the musical mainstream and that is typically regarded as more original, eclectic, or musically or intellectually challenging than most pop music...called also alt-pop." Last.fm has a category for "alternative pop" whose "top artists" include Björk, Kate Bush, Tori Amos, Fiona Apple, Garbage, and the Cardigans. I suppose those two conceptions are compatible with each other; and if the "indie" in "indie-pop" is to be taken at all literally, I guess a major-label artist who made non-mainstream pop might be "alternative" but not "indie" (as with "alternative rock" vs. "indie rock"?). Jcejhay (talk) 18:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've since changed my opinion and think that Alternative pop should remain a redirect to Alternative rock. Ilovetopaint (talk) 08:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

History stops after the '80s?

Hmm... There's only history of the subject before the '90's, nothing afterwards. Indie pop has gone a long way since then, and most people that lick a link here probably want to know more about the recent history of indie pop as well. Anyone have any good ideas of places for sources for more recent history?Awsomaw (talk) 03:30, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised that this article doesn't link to List of indie pop artists, but I'm not sure where such a link should be situated in the article, so I haven't made that edit myself. Jcejhay (talk) 21:39, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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