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Revision as of 01:27, 26 May 2020

Macuto Bay raid

  • ... that an American sought donations from Venezuelan migrants to fund his attempted invasion into the country? Source: "Goudreau said he never received a penny from the Guaidó team and instead the Venezuelan soldiers he was advising had to scrounge for donations from Venezuelan migrants driving for car share service Uber in Colombia." (AP [1]) (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: WYCB
  • Comment: Note that there's a potentially controversial move discussion ongoing.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 16:37, 8 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment This event is so bizarre that I'm confident that there are plenty of alternative hooks that can be considered, if any user disagrees with the current one. --Jamez42 (talk) 12:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes, agreed. We have to find a better one. --cyrfaw (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Remember it has to be neutral and indisputable. Kingsif (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Reviewing with template below ☆ Bri (talk) 01:00, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - fail verification this seems to be the correct source instead of the one used in article. I filled it in for the DYK nomination above.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Newness OK, created May 5 and nominated May 8
Length OK, 51 kB >1,500
Sourcing: 141 sources nearly one per sentence, no controversial statements or quotes unsourced
Passes Earwig's copyvio detector
QPQ good, WYCB promoted by Yoninah 12 January

See comments above. One might note that the claimed seized condoms could be considered military purpose, as are sometimes used to prevent water from entering gun barrels. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

I note that there is an open RfC on the talkpage of neutrality in the section Analysis especially about the use of the term "coup attempt", and the section is still marked POV. I don't see an intractable problem here, and consensus appears to have formed around "keep and rework". Not a showsotpper for DYK in my opinion, in fact more readers might help to reformulate it as requested. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC)