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'''Poe's law''' is an [[adage]] of [[Internet culture]] stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a [[parody]] of [[extremism|extreme views]] so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.<ref name="origpost">{{cite web|url=https://www.christianforums.com/threads/big-contradictions-in-the-evolution-theory.1962980/page-3#post-17606580|title=Big contradictions in the evolution theory, page 3|last=Poe|first=Nathan|date=11 August 2005|work=christianforums.com|url-status=live|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20170114124412/http://www.christianforums.com/threads/big-contradictions-in-the-evolution-theory.1962980/page-3#post-17606580|archivedate=January 14, 2017|accessdate=January 14, 2017}}</ref><ref name="aiken">{{cite journal|last=Aikin|first=Scott F.|date=23 January 2009|title=Poe's Law, Group Polarization, and the Epistemology of Online Religious Discourse|journal=[[Social Science Research Network]]|doi=10.2139/ssrn.1332169|ssrn=1332169}}</ref><ref name="tele">{{Cite news|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6408927/Internet-rules-and-laws-the-top-10-from-Godwin-to-Poe.html|title=Internet rules and laws: the top 10, from Godwin to Poe|last=Chivers|first=Tom|date=October 23, 2009|work=[[The Daily Telegraph|The Telegraph]]|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170519063836/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6408927/Internet-rules-and-laws-the-top-10-from-Godwin-to-Poe.html|archive-date=May 19, 2017}}</ref> The original statement, by Nathan Poe, read:<ref name="origpost"/> |
'''Poe's law''' is an [[adage]] of [[Internet culture]] stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a [[parody]] of [[extremism|extreme views]] so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.<ref name="origpost">{{cite web|url=https://www.christianforums.com/threads/big-contradictions-in-the-evolution-theory.1962980/page-3#post-17606580|title=Big contradictions in the evolution theory, page 3|last=Poe|first=Nathan|date=11 August 2005|work=christianforums.com|url-status=live|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20170114124412/http://www.christianforums.com/threads/big-contradictions-in-the-evolution-theory.1962980/page-3#post-17606580|archivedate=January 14, 2017|accessdate=January 14, 2017}}</ref><ref name="aiken">{{cite journal|last=Aikin|first=Scott F.|date=23 January 2009|title=Poe's Law, Group Polarization, and the Epistemology of Online Religious Discourse|journal=[[Social Science Research Network]]|doi=10.2139/ssrn.1332169|ssrn=1332169}}</ref><ref name="tele">{{Cite news|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6408927/Internet-rules-and-laws-the-top-10-from-Godwin-to-Poe.html|title=Internet rules and laws: the top 10, from Godwin to Poe|last=Chivers|first=Tom|date=October 23, 2009|work=[[The Daily Telegraph|The Telegraph]]|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170519063836/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6408927/Internet-rules-and-laws-the-top-10-from-Godwin-to-Poe.html|archive-date=May 19, 2017}}</ref> The original statement, by Nathan Poe, read:<ref name="origpost"/> |
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{{quote|Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly<!--do not "correct" back to the original "uttrerly", even with [sic]. Per MOS, obvious typos are silently corrected when quoting--> impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that ''someone'' won't mistake for the genuine article.}}An example of Poes Law would be the satirical news website, Babylon Bee satirizing mainstream media articles. Many of which are usually absurd articles with greatly exagerated claims, but when compared to actual articles written by the mainstream media there is virtually no difference in headlines or hyperbolic stories. |
{{quote|Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly<!--do not "correct" back to the original "uttrerly", even with [sic]. Per MOS, obvious typos are silently corrected when quoting--> impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that ''someone'' won't mistake for the genuine article.}}An example of Poes Law would be the satirical news website, Babylon Bee satirizing mainstream media articles. Many of which are usually absurd articles with greatly exagerated claims, but when compared to actual articles written by the mainstream media there is virtually no difference in headlines or hyperbolic stories. Many cannot see the difference in what is supposed to be satirical news and actual news. |
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Revision as of 01:35, 29 May 2020
Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.[1][2][3] The original statement, by Nathan Poe, read:[1]
Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.
An example of Poes Law would be the satirical news website, Babylon Bee satirizing mainstream media articles. Many of which are usually absurd articles with greatly exagerated claims, but when compared to actual articles written by the mainstream media there is virtually no difference in headlines or hyperbolic stories. Many cannot see the difference in what is supposed to be satirical news and actual news.
Origin
Poe's law is based on a comment written by Nathan Poe in 2005 on christianforums.com, an Internet forum on Christianity. The post was made during a debate on creationism, where a previous poster had remarked to another user: "Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious".[4] Poe then replied, "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article".[1] The original statement of Poe's law referred specifically to creationism, but it has since been generalized to apply to any kind of fundamentalism or extremism.[3]
In part, Poe was simply reiterating common advice about the need to clearly mark online sarcasm or parody (e.g. with a smiling or winking emoticon) to avoid confusion. As early as 1983, Jerry Schwarz, in a post on Usenet, wrote:
Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks.
Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously.[5]
In 2017, Wired published an article calling it "2017's Most Important Internet Phenomenon" and noting: "Poe's Law applies to more and more internet interactions." The article gave examples of cases involving 4chan and the Trump administration where there were deliberate ambiguities over whether something was serious or intended as a parody, where people were using Poe's Law as "a refuge" to camouflage beliefs that would otherwise be considered unacceptable.[6]
See also
References
- ^ a b c Poe, Nathan (August 11, 2005). "Big contradictions in the evolution theory, page 3". christianforums.com. Archived from the original on January 14, 2017. Retrieved January 14, 2017.
- ^ Aikin, Scott F. (January 23, 2009). "Poe's Law, Group Polarization, and the Epistemology of Online Religious Discourse". Social Science Research Network. doi:10.2139/ssrn.1332169. SSRN 1332169.
- ^ a b Chivers, Tom (October 23, 2009). "Internet rules and laws: the top 10, from Godwin to Poe". The Telegraph. Archived from the original on May 19, 2017.
- ^ Harcoff, Pete (August 10, 2005). "Big contradictions in the evolution theory". christianforums.com. Archived from the original on January 14, 2016. Retrieved January 14, 2016.
{{cite web}}:|archive-date=/|archive-url=timestamp mismatch; January 14, 2017 suggested (help) - ^ "Emily Post for Usenet". Newsgroup: net.announce. November 1, 1983. (Emily Post)
- ^ Ellis, Emma Grey (June 5, 2017). "Can't Take a Joke? That's Just Poe's Law, 2017's Most Important Internet Phenomenon". Wired. Archived from the original on January 25, 2019. Retrieved May 21, 2018.
External links
- How to Tell a Joke on the Internet, The Atlantic