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Reviewer Notes

May have to be excessively trimmed in order to not include WP:FANCRUFT. I'll make some edits, feel free to revert if you'd like.--Prisencolin (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I will probably accept this draft, and the removal of the WP:FANCRUFT can take place in article space. There already is an article for one of the characters. The AFD had to do with a list, and the comments in the AFD seem consistent with adequately developed character articles.

I will however be declining this draft first because a reference error needs correcting. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon: I apologise if it's out of place to comment on a draft review, but I would strongly argue against accepting this draft. The notability here seems to be entirely inherited, both from Grand Theft Auto V and Trevor Philips. The "Character design" section (almost entirely copied from the Development article) consists of seven sources: four about the game, and three about Trevor with peripheral mentions of Michael. The "Reception" section has one useful quote from a game review, but the two others are simply about his relationship (or comparison to) Trevor (one of which literally comes from a review of Trevor). All other sources are primary. The character is not independently notable and I would suggest declining the draft outright. I should also add that the AfD only had one (weak) mention of separate character articles. – Rhain ☔ 23:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 I will however be declining this draft first because a reference error needs correcting.
 [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 22:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
+:{{ping|Robert McClenon}} I apologise if it's out of place to comment on a draft review, but I would strongly argue against accepting this draft. The [[WP:N|notability]] here seems to be entirely [[WP:INHERIT|inherited]], both from ''[[Grand Theft Auto V]]'' and [[Trevor Philips]]. The "Character design" section (almost entirely copied from [[Development of Grand Theft Auto V|the Development article]]) consists of seven sources: four about the game, and three about Trevor with peripheral mentions of Michael. The "Reception" section has one useful quote from a game review, but the two others are simply about his relationship (or comparison to) Trevor (one of which literally comes from a review ''of'' Trevor). All other sources are [[WP:PRIMARY|primary]]. The character is not independently notable and I would suggest declining the draft outright. I should also add that the AfD only had one (weak) mention of separate character articles. – [[User:Rhain|<span style="color: #008;">'''''Rhain'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Rhain|☔]] 23:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)