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New algorithm for unanswered PRs?

Instead of the algorithm detecting the next edit after the page's creation, could we make it so that the algorithm detects when a user other than the person who created the page edits it? That way we wouldn't need the small box on the WP:PR/UA page. I'm not necessarily a tech person, so this might not be possible, but let me know if there are any other suggestions or queries. Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 09:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Hey, that is a good idea. Sadly that's beyond me (I created the current script). Currently the script does a simple calculation that doesn't take into account the editor. Maybe ask at the village pump? --Tom (LT) (talk) 04:21, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

MoS RfC on tense for describing periodicals

There is a MoS RfC that editors here may be interested in, about whether to use "is" or "was" to describe periodicals that are no longer being published. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Slight issue arising from above

As a consequence of the above, it has turned out that some peer reviews have never been actually opened (by which I mean the initial "Please select a topic" template has remained on some talk pages for years (see eg. here Special:Permalink/919439770). I've requested a bot to help remove any of these unopened requests: Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Bot_to_fix_up_some_blank_peer_reviews. Cheers --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:51, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Alas, we have been advised to do this manually. Here we go... --Tom (LT) (talk) 03:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I happened to see this and removed about 20 of them from the list of 'pages that link to "Template:Peer review"'. There are some I wasn't sure about; I've left those for you. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

(Oops, forgot to ping you: Tom (LT). BlackcurrantTea (talk) 11:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC))

@BlackcurrantTea this is waaaayy overdue but, thank you for your earlier edits :). --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Mullum Malarum/archive2

Can someone please close this PR? I had opened it because I wanted help in identifying and clearing "problems" pointed out by Fowler&fowler before taking the article to FAC for the fifth time. Now that I've cancelled all future FAC plans, there's no reason to keep the PR open. --Kailash29792 (talk) 09:53, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Done. Sorry to hear your experience was below what you were expecting. --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Automatic closure script

Some here may be aware there's a script to automate the process of closing a review. Now, for most reviews you just need to click a button (hurray!)

Developed by User:WritKeeper, to whom we are all very thankful (!!), there is a script to help automate closing peer reviews. To use the script:

• Copy importScript('User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/peerReviewCloser.js'); into your Special:MyPage/common.js
• When you view a review, click on the tab that says "More" and then "Close peer review". The tab can be found near the "History" tab

I've added it to the list of tools here: Wikipedia:Peer_review/Tools#Closure_script. Cheers, --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:28, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Redirected pages

When closing some reviews, I've noticed that the articles have moved and so the peer review is not linked anymore. Because of the way peer reviews are stored (which is in the Wikipedia:Peer review namespace) rather than as subpages of articles, over time a lot of these reviews are going to be lost or disconnected from their articles. Contrast Wikipedia:Peer review/Blond Ambition World Tour Live/archive1 (in our namespace) to Talk:Thymus/GA1 (a good article review in the article's namespace).

I'm going to explore whether it's possible for reviews to be within an article's namespace (ie Article/PR1) rather than in our namespace. That way they can be subpages of articles and (1) move along with articles, as well as (2) retain functional links from the talk pages. Otherwise parts of article histories will become lost :(.

From previously exploring our namespace (see the tools subpage - technical details), I think this would be quite achievable. In general the domains that I'll need to look at will be - will this work with templates, what aspects of templates will need to be updated, will this break the autogenerated lists (unlikely as these are generated from categories), will the bot need to change (unlikely as it is based on categories), will this break our archives (also unlikely as these are generated from plain text previously, and categories now), will anything else need to change (yes - Writ Keeper's wonderful closing script will probably eventually need updating) and how will we move old peer reviews to subpages of articles (likely to require a bot request). I won't actually do anything but I do want to explore this for the reasons above.

I'll keep you all updated and have a more concrete proposal later this year, or maybe next year depending on my glacial editing style.

Any thoughts on this from other editors? --Tom (LT) (talk) 07:43, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Don't Start Now

I have been advised to put this here. I made some comments for the peer review of the Dua Lipa song - Don't Start Now. However it appears that the user who started the peer review has since retired for Wikipedia. If nobody is wishing to take the article and peer review on, then the review can be closed. Wna247 (talk) 14:49, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. Because nobody WP:OWN's an article, my feeling is to let this review remain open for the normal time period, then close if after a few weeks. --Tom (LT) (talk) 06:12, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

That makes sense to me. I had advised opening a thread about this on the "Don't Start Now" peer review as I have never seen a case like this one. I agree that since the peer review is already open, it would be a good time to encourage other editors to improve the article further. Aoba47 (talk) 20:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/FC Bayern Munich/archive2

Hi it has been over a month since I requested a peer review for this article and it still hasn't appeared on the unanswered list. Why? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 12:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

• @REDMAN 2019. Second sentence on the unanswered page: Because of this, this list won't identify reviews which have been subsequently edited by their requester. Though such reviews are still displayed in full on the peer review main page, peer reviews that haven't been reviewed and aren't listed here can be added to Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog/items. Your review was edited so it didn't appear. That's just how the list is coded unfortunately (it displays reviews that haven't been edited at all since they were created, as these are definitively unanswered). I see you also removed your review from the backlog list. Unfortunately, reviews sometimes linger for quite some time, as we just don't have that many reviewers around. Apart from adding your review to the backlog list, I recommend directly asking some people to review your article - potentially contacting some FA regulars who have reviewed similar articles, or maybe posting at Wikipedia talk:Featured articles. Good luck! --Tom (LT) (talk) 11:17, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks I didn't realise that it did that when I edited it. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Peer Review newsletter

Depiction by Raphael of Aristotle in the School of Athens receiving some useful feedback during an active peer review

Hello to all! This is the second Wikipedia Peer Review newsletter, containing some updates relating to peer review since the initial newsletter in August 2018. I intend these as infrequent newsletters that can be used to interact with interested editors and also let people know about relevant changes.

Thanks again to everyone who has been responding and helping out at peer review, it's great to see the venue so active.

I value feedback, and if you think I've missed something, want to include something in the next newsletter, wish to receive these, or don't wish to receive this again, please leave a note on my talk page, or add / remove your name from the mailing list.

Yours, --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:22, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

What's new?

New closure script

There's a new script you can use to automate the process of closing a review. Now, for most reviews you just need to click a button (hurray!)

Developed by User:WritKeeper, to whom we are all very thankful, there is a script to help automate closing peer reviews. To use the script:

• Copy importScript('User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/peerReviewCloser.js'); into your Special:MyPage/common.js
• When you view a review, click on the tab that says "More" and then "Close peer review". The tab can be found near the "History" tab

I've added it to the list of tools here: Wikipedia:Peer_review/Tools#Closure_script

Volunteers list contacts

Editors can now choose to be contacted periodically by User:KadaneBot with unanswered peer reviews in specific topic areas. If you'd like to be contacted, please visit the volunteers page and update your preferences

Peer reviews on "Article alerts"

If you're a member of a WikiProject, you may have noticed peer reviews getting included in the article alerts lists, which is sure to enhance our subject-specific visibility.

How can I contribute?

1. Answer some reviews! A list of unanswered reviews is here: (WP:PRWAITING)
2. Add yourself to the volunteers list, and receive regular updates about unanswered reviews here: (WP:PRV)
3. Or, if you only want one request a blue moon, Click "watch" on the list of items that somehow missed getting added to the unanswered list (here). Sometimes, these reviews linger for months!!

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