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I used to think this was a great program and I was a member. Now, I have realized how wrong I was. The Birthday Committee is a group whose main purpose is to give out make a formal committee to wish people a happy birthday with robotic templates and eCards. So, I encourage you all to kill off this project. JorcogaYell! 02:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep-In my opinion, this project is not harmless to the encyclopedia. It can actually be helpful, since a Happy Birthday wish can brighten up an editor's day. Wouldn't you be depressed if no one said a word to you on your birthday???--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?}Reviews? 02:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; wishing an editor a happy birthday makes them happy, and a happy editor is an editor who will keep contributing. The amount that the one edit that it takes someone to wish another editor "happy birthday" or "congratulations on having been at Wikipedia for two years" will take away from the encyclopedia is miniscule in comparison to the positive effect that it has upon the editors. -- Natalya 02:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- A clarification, though I think the whole project is valid, the most important part is the calendar, which should be kept regardless of what happens to the organization itself. -- Natalya 03:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Um... why? -Amarkov ^blah_edits 03:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - It carries the birthdays, first-edit days, admin anniversaries of a massive number of users, which has certainly taken years to compile. If it is decided that an organization dedicated to wishing people congratulations is not to stay (which I hope does not happen), at least saving the calendar will allow people to do so on their own accord. -- Natalya 03:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Project does not harm encyclopedia at all. The reasons given to delete this article (meaningless edits in the Wikipedia namespace) have historically been rejected as long as the page is harmless (BJAODN, etc). --- RockMFR 02:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
BJAODN is for funny stuff... (including "so bad that it's funny", etc). I fail to see the funny here. -- Ned Scott 03:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete We shouldn't formalize birthday greetings.. Talk about taking the spirit out and making it a robotic process. Those templates look like eCards too. This.. is not a good direction to be in. This idea makes me cringe. -- Ned Scott 02:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You can still wish people a happy birthday. You do not need a formal committee with templates to wish people a happy birthday. Would you rather have a robotic template like this:

Happy Birthday, Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Birthday Committee, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

or a nice, informal, personal greeting? JorcogaYell! 03:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Vague comments about formalization and roboticness aren't all that persuasive. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 03:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I didn't write my comments to be persuasive.. it's what I honestly think. -- Ned Scott 03:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's fine, it's just that I disagree with you. If you don't care very much, fine by me, I don't have to use brainpower processing arguments. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 03:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I personally don't care what kind of birthday greeting I get. If you do get rid of this, please keep the calendar.--C J King 04:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Srong Keep By getting rid of this noone or hardly anyone will get any greeting because we will hardly know anyone's birthday date. If noone greets these people a happy birthday that makes an upset user, an upset user makes bad (or not top quality) edits, bad edits make a bad encyclopedia.--¿Why 1 9 9 1 ^{ESP. | Sign Here} 04:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above is a prime example of why we should delete this. -- Ned Scott 04:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, you couldn't really ask for much more than that as a prime example of why. I still am not convinced, but I'm closer. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 04:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep, perfectly valid (and quite harmless, before anyone starts on that tack) tool for keeping up editor morale; I'm frankly disturbed by the recent trend of deletion nominations which seem to assume that Wikipedia is being written by a brigade of automatons. The use of form-letter greetings is a valid topic for discussion; but MFD is hardly the best place to have that debate, as it wouldn't entail deletion of the page. (In any case, the important part of this effort is the calendar, not the various templates that people have put together.) Kirill Lokshin 05:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I have no problems with the Calendar. The templates and concept of forced birthday greetings is what I wish to be deleted. And like so many things, we have no evidence whatsoever to show that this helps anything other than helping us look like myspace. I like community, I even get off topic every now and then, and sometimes I joke around. I've supported keep for many fun things on Wikipedia, so please do not group us all into the "fun police". -- Ned Scott 05:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 ***Yeah, you couldn't really ask for much more than that as a prime example of why. I still am not convinced, but I'm closer. -[[User:Amarkov|Amarkov]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Amarkov|blah]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/User:Amarkov|edits]]</sub></small> 04:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * '''Strong keep''', perfectly valid (and quite harmless, before anyone starts on ''that'' tack) tool for keeping up editor morale; I'm frankly disturbed by the recent trend of deletion nominations which seem to assume that Wikipedia is being written by a brigade of automatons.  The use of form-letter greetings is a valid topic for discussion; but MFD is hardly the best place to have that debate, as it wouldn't entail deletion of the page.  (In any case, the important part of this effort is the calendar, not the various templates that people have put together.) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 05:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
+**I have no problems with the Calendar. The templates and concept of forced birthday greetings is what I wish to be deleted. And like so many things, we have no evidence whatsoever to show that this helps anything other than helping us look like myspace. I like community, I even get off topic every now and then, and sometimes I joke around. I've supported keep for many fun things on Wikipedia, so please do not group us all into the "fun police". -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 05:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)