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On January 1, 2005 this page should be moved to Football Federation Australia - see [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IVoteTurkey (talk • contribs) 09:48, 19 December 2004 (UTC)

(Editor's note, it is not the governing body for soccer in Australia, although is it the most popular and powerful. Many state soccer organisations are not looked after by Football federation and it certainly does not own Soccer in Australia). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs)

The state federations are part of the national structure, and are looked after by Football Australia. Tancred 21:17, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I'll concede on that. But it does not govern THE sport in Australia, it is just the main one. It is A governing body, not THE governing body. There are many leagues who are not associated with them and I personally do not want it to look like they govern my side (which they certainly do not). By saying it is the governing body makes it look like they own soccer in Australia, which they do not.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs)

All the state federations come underneath the FFA - the FFA doesn't govern everything about the sport but they are the governing body. Is the Federal Government not the Government of Australia, even though we have state and local governments beneath them? Cursive 14:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

also see [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10] etc etc etc Cursive 14:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But the wording is wrong because you said they are THE govering body for soccer in Ausstralia. There are many soccer organisations that are not affiliated with them, by saying that football federation is THE governing body is saying that if they aren't associated witht them they aren't important. There are a number of people who although they love the a-league (like me) are really unhappy about losing alll their teams because of it they can no longger get enough members. Soccer clubs like Fitzry and carlton are very important and they should not be classified that they are not part of any governing sport just because football federation has a large monopoly at the moment. There is no single governing body for soccer alone in this country, but I will admit (begrudgingly) that is it the largest and most powerful and important (there i said it, happy?) But don't you underestimate the passion people still have for our local soccer clubs.

I'm willing to make a compromise. How about we refer to it as the MAIN governing body for soccer. Does that sound fair? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs)

That's not going to work. The governing body of football, soccer if you must, worldwide is FIFA http://www.fifa.com/ . It is organised into Confederations and within the Asian Football Confederation the body representing Australia and controlling the national team is FFA - http://www.fifa.com/en/organisation/confederations/associationdetails/0,1483,AUS,00.html?select=AUS -- Arwel (talk) 20:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'll concurr, because your statements do make a valid arguement. Doen't mean I'm happy with it's meddling with the local clubs, but I am man enough to admit that you make a better statement than me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Founding date

It says that this was founded as a new league. If this is not the same league as National Soccer League, we can't say that it was founded in 1961 on the picutre. Is it the same league?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 27 March 2006

The league's got nothing to do with it. The A-League, indeed, is completely different from the National Soccer League. However, this is about Football Federation Australia, not the A-League. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 11:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But is Football fedration different from the National Soccer league or is it the same one with a name change. If it is the same one, I reccomend the two articles be merged.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 28 March 2006

Football Federation Australia is indeed different from the National Soccer League.

By the way, are you have trouble working out how to sign your posts? It's not that hard: just use four tildes (that's the squiggly thing that appears when you hold down SHIFT and press the key to the left of the 1 key — ~). Cheers, fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 12:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well if it is different then the founding date should be 2005 not 1961. And what do you mean coach? Football fereration has plenty of coaches. He's the coach of the socceroos, not coach of the football federation. Football fereration is a league, not a team. That doesn't seem to make any sence. BTW this is sliat_1981. I just can't be bothered to sign. Cheers —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 07:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The league was the NSL, and is now the A-League. The body that governs football in Australia is Football Federation Australia.Tancred 07:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then why is the governing body listed as a coach? Gus is the coach of the socceroos. The socceroos isn't the Fedearation, it's IN hte federation unless you mean a coach by some sort of board position. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 07:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Because the federation basically owns the socceroos. Say if there was a country called NicCarBeland, and Bobby McPrescott was the coach of the national team, they would have COACH:Bobby McPrescott on the NCBFA page. Nic Car Bel 12:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finally you answered. Nearly a year after I posted and now don't care anymore. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it's pretty clear that the coach is meant to be the national team head coach...--Hack 00:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Teams

I'm adding a list of national level teams controlled by the FFA as it came a shock that there wasn't currently one, fell free to add any I forgot!

Simba1409 (talk) 04:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy

I expaned the section as it was extremely short. In fact it could be expanded further if you want to read the source it has quite alot of info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.213.253 (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use Australian English

The article opens with the following.

"Football Federation Australia (FFA) is the governing body for the sport of football (soccer) in Australia."

Per Engvar we ought to be using Australian English so what's with calling the sport football? If the FFA want to use the word, that's up to them, but we don't have to follow suit. If editors here can't cop soccer I'd be okay with association football but the word football generally refers to either rugby or Aussie rules in Australian English. JIMp_talk·cont 03:18, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Australian English changes, especially as immigrants bring in new words and values. I have no problem with Association football, because when I look at the media, I see "soccer" being used less and less. Perhaps we should see if we can gauge consensus on this? --Pete (talk) 22:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point, it does change. You're also right in saying that the media are using "football" more and more to refer to the sport. Still, I think that the majority of normal Australians would say "soccer". Also "soccer" is unambiguous. Jimp 07:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced, POV changes by IP editors

Two IP editors (who I suspect are the same person posting from two places) are repeatedly trying to impose on the article some undicussed changes which significantly alter the perspective of parts of the article describing the creation of the FFA. I reverted, with explanatory Edit summaries and after posting on the editor's Talk page, to no avail. No Edit summaries and no Discussion have been forthcoming from our IP editor(s). I've possibly already technically gone too far on the WP:3RR front, so I really need some backup here. HiLo48 (talk) 23:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Soccer Australia redirects here

It should not, while the two orginisations are pertinent to each other they are not the same orginisation, I suggest we create a new article for the discussion of Soccer Australia and that all content related to soccer Australia be forked to that article rather than having the current redirect page --Orestes1984 (talk) 13:10, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's normal for most sports on Wikipedia to have the article on a single peak national body incorporate the record of its historical precursors. Most readers simply want to read about the peak national body, and should not be forced to look at different articles. The article content will make it clear that the two that concern you are not the same body. HiLo48 (talk) 18:55, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with HiLo48, there's no need to split the content up, there has been 6 organisations in various forms and they should all be detailed fully on this article.--2nyte (talk) 23:55, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free use of File:Socceraustralia.png

There is a discussion at WP:NFCR#File:Socceraustralia.png regarding the non-free use of File:Socceraustralia.png in the article. All interested editors are welcome to participate. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 08:42, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems to me that this article is not up to date re the FFA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.211.33 (talk) 11:21, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it soccer?

Clearly there is some dissatisfaction with the way Wikipedia deals with the name of the sport. I have commenced discussion at Naming_conventions (Football in Australia) and I invite contributions. --Pete (talk) 06:52, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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