User talk:Theroadislong

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Mike Peden Wiki Page

OK, thanks for your help I understand. Sadly seems too complicated. I only wanted to try and make the page look more appealing.

Hey I lost touch! I was blocked for only editing about one person I had no info on anyone else Jaleelpick (talk) 07:44, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Moses Olufemi

HI Theroadislong. I'm sure you are doing pretty fine. You left a message for me on my talk page related to the above draft article. On the above draft article, you said IMDB is not a reliable source. I have just fixed the issue and put a reliable source. You can go review it. Thanks.

Article Dragos Iliescu

Hello, thank you for your comment on my article Dragos Iliescu. I ammended it according to your feedback. Looking forward for your reply.

Draft: DC Comics Complete Reprint

Hello. Hopefully, this is a good place to leave a message.

The goal of the titular draft (that I hope becomes a webpage) is to help new comic fans or collectors quickly find comics to read. For instance, all Silver Age Flash comics spanned from Showcase #4- Flash #199. Having a webpage that allows readers to quickly locate comic collections that reprint all the comics within that Era would benefit. Some overlap, such as the Omnibus reprinting Showcase in black-and-white. But, the goal is to let readers know if they like a specific format, which character/team or age has a complete run. Does that clarify matters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Trade_Finance_Technology_(TradeTech)>

Hi there,

You gave some good comments on the draft of the TradeTech page before (including some valuable pointers on "solutions"). I have since amended the page. Would it be I impossible to spare a few minutes and give it another once-over? Apologies, appreciate you will be busy but any pointers are super helpful and very welcome.

Thanks so much and all the best.

Response to "Paid Editing"

Thank you for informing. I just read the terms and conditions related to paid contributions/editing. According to it, i added the required details, both on the talk page of the article Draft talk:Razi Ahmed and my user page. I'll just edit the requirements on my user page, according to what you have mentioned. Please let me know if it's correct. Thank you!

Page Jonathan Kubben

Hi, thank you again for your feedback. I one question following our exchange :

I would like to add 4 other article links in the Notes and references section : 2. Can you tell me if this is correct? And if otherwise, how should I use it?

Here are the link in question : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jonathan_Kubben#Notes_et_references

Many thanks.

Tinius Olsen Group

Can you please tell me where this is propagandist, all the information written is correct and very useful for students and engineers. So can you publish it, if this article is showing the purpose of promotion, please refer to the given Wikipedia page- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwick_Roell_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimadzu

Tinius Olsen Group's article is not for the purpose of promotion, it is only for materials testing information sharing and is very helpful for all Wikipedia users and readers. So please publish it.

Thank you so much.

Compensation disclosure Telekom Serbia wiki article

I hereby claim that I receive no direct or indirect compensation for my edits on the Telekom Srbija wikipedia page, nor do I expect to receive compensation in any form from any company.

Nevaeh Saga Novels

Becbec814 (talk · contribs) No draft specified! "I am not a Wikipedia page writer, and I want the best for this writer that has shown that he should be on here, for a mastery of works, and pending world records, that should be seen and shard via a Encyclopedia, via online refences and public webpages, I have done all that I can at this point. I would like to ask kindly to make changes that best help make this page happen as it should. Thanks!"

All notable things asked for have been added.

Happy Holidays

Everything is Going to be Alright, Martin Creed, 2015.

Thank you for all your edits and contributions this year. I wish you a happy holiday and good health! Possibly (talk)

Draft:Webull

Hi @Theroadislong, nice to meet you! I noticed you've reviewed a few previous drafts of Draft:Webull. I wanted to let you know I rewrote the article and I would like to see what you think. Cheers! —FORMALDUDE^(talk) 07:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Theroadislong —FORMALDUDE^(talk) 04:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year 2021 I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

Happy New Year!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Theroadislong: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. Starzoner (talk) 15:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message

I wish you a prosperous 2021! Starzoner (talk) 15:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Theroadislong!

Happy New Year!

Theroadislong,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:07, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for continuing to help after I reached my limit. The casual "we'll work on it next week" was my final straw. See here; I need to push back :) Happy New Year! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

SandyGeorgia It's all looking like it will be much better now, it's a steep learning curve for new users. Happy new year to you too! Theroadislong (talk) 18:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I hope so; they are good faith editors, but there are days when I need to acknowledge that my mentoring efforts have maxxed out :) I do enjoy mentoring new users, but today I had so planned to do a lot of content work, and that just kept going. Well, others are helping now, so hopefully my lack of patience will work out in the longer run. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Resubmitting Arctic Wolf Networks Article Submission

Hi, Thank you for your feedback on my initial Arctic Wolf Networks submission. I edited the original submission to remove the "Leadership" section that might be considered "commercial" and did some other miscellaneous polishing. Note that I included the Deloitte Fast 500 award mentions along with the Gartner mention to substantiate that Arctic Wolf is a significant firm that justifies a Wikipedia entry. Arctic Wolf is a major player in managed security services industry according to Gartner and Forrester, the two major IT industry analyst firms. I think the article is neutral and compares favorably to other cybersecurity articles I read for reference like Secureworks and SentinelOne. If you have any issues, I would appreciate any specific comments you might have so I can address any issues. Best wishes for 2021! Cryptodd (talk) 23:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey

So I saw you removed my system which isn’t a problem but you also removed a notable person I had put on there... any chance I can add it back? ByronPH (talk) 19:40, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Your edit at List of people from the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames added a non notable person, the list is only for people who already have Wikipedia articles. Theroadislong (talk) 19:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Gianfranco Iannuzzi

Hi I've been declined with my draft for the artist and art director "Gianfranco Iannuzzi" and I've received this message:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

I understand it, but I have a question about it: What kind of coverage do you need? Because the subject in question has his name mentioned in all of his works published, but all the interviews, articles and publications are mostly in papers and magazines. Online you can find a very little about it, only the "passing mentions" written above. I can have proofs, if are needed, scans of the articles, but online it is hard to find something long and useful all about the subject of the page, (not to mention an homonymous person). So, how many mentions do we need to validate the page? Or how much internet coverage?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Immersivearteditor (talk • contribs) 14:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Sources don't have to be online you can just use the title, publisher date etc of any offline source. Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Second Draft Review Request

Good afternoon! I'm wondering if it would be possible for you to take another peek at my submitted draft here. You declined it back on December 1, and I've since made changes to it and resubmitted for review. Thank you for any feedback - I appreciate your help! --Jcollinsycc (talk) 18:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

My initial comments still apply, there is still unsourced content there which needs to be addressed and please remove all instances of "Dr" they are not required. I will leave it for another reviewer to decide. Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Jcollinsycc (talk) 19:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

George Gadson Article - For Review

Hi Theroadislong,

I am enquiring about the Approval of Article for Creation "Artist George Gadson" (Submission at Articles for creation: George E. Gadson (September 5) Which was created as an article by Swan Communications, Inc.

I have created Articles for clients before and did not have to file a Disclosure. So I am curious if this is a new guideline, as well as there are many companies out there, that write Wikipedia articles for compensation.

I few points to note: I am Editing the Page now, however I did create it in the first place.

We are now seeking Approval for Publication and it has been in the works since September.

I don't want to say that I am being paid for this publication for financial stakes; as I am the Writer of this Article. I write all Mr. Gadson's work that requires Writing.

However, I don't feel that there is an undisclosed financial stake in promoting this subject, nor is the article promotional. It is a clear Wikipedia type review of this national artist's Life, and Work, with more than forty[five online sources and references. I don't consider this a promotional endeavor by any means. Mr. Gadson is a national artist with Encyclopedia worthiness and more than 20 year's in artworks, experience, market value. press and notoriety.

I would be thankful if you can let us know what necessary steps we can take soonest, to get this page published. It has been more than six months.

And also so that I may know if I am ever to write again for future clients, I can assess the pitfalls ahead of time.

Thank you so much, Swancomm13

You say "We are now seeking Approval" Wikipedia accounts are very strictly for single person use, paid editing is allowed if grudgingly by some of us, undisclosed paid editing will almost always result in being blocked. Theroadislong (talk) 19:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Malformed request?

This seems mal-formed.

Try again by expanding the "How to open an investigation [show]" line here and filling it out. You may need to have the original deleted for the fill-in-form to work right though. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:32, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Untitled 4 January 2021

I disclosed to you about my other Writing for Wikipedia, and instead of helping me you Flagged and Rejected my Article? Why? I am trying to do the right thing, not HIDE a CRIME.

What can I do to save the Article George Gadson, that has more than forty-five references, yet you say it is not noteworthy?

Please help... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.96.210.100 (talk) 19:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Clean Up George Gadson Article

Please tell what I can do to save this article from Rejection? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You can do nothing until you respond by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Theroadislong (talk) 19:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

George Gadson Article - For Review

I haven't made any more edits.

I am trying to understand what I need to do to save this article from being Rejected.

If I file the Disclosure, can I re-submit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 19:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

George Gadson Article - For Review

I said We, because I am his Writer. So single person use means that every Wikipedia item is written by the Subject? Presidents, Artists, Businesses, all write their own Wikipedia Entries? This is where I am confused.

There are a multitude of companies selling Wikipedia Article Submission. Do they all work for Wikipedia?

I have no problem Disclosing my Paid Writing. I write his words.

It is not an advertorial, which is usually where a journalistic conflict of interest arises. Hence my confusion.

I disclosed in earnest, not by Accident.

It is not a journalistic conflict of interest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

It appears you have entirely miss-understood how Wikipedia works you say "single person use means that every Wikipedia item is written by the Subject?" Virtually nobody writes their own Wikipedia article, people completely unconnected write the articles, we have zero interest in what the articles subject wants to say about themselves. User accounts are for single person use only, they are not to be shared with anyone else including the article's subject. You have conntinued to edit Wikipedia here without first making the required declaration on your user page, you are also abusing the system by editing with other accounts or whilst logged out. Theroadislong (talk) 20:26, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Theroadislong, you may want to read the username- and file-upload-related notes I left on User talk:SwanCom707, User talk:SwanComm13, Commons:User talk:SwanCom707, and Commons:User talk:SwanComm13. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 01:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing While Logged Out

Ok, I need you to stop being RUDE and treating me like a criminal.

1. I didn't know that leaving messages in Talk was an Edit, because that is the only "Editing" I am doing!

2. I am trying to decide, by talking to Wiki Editors, whether it is worth it for me to continue to get this page Published, as it is Rejected and we are assessing the subject's Notability.

3. Sometimes when you note comes in, I may answer from my email, forgetting that I am not logged in, and then Log In.

That is the only interaction I am having with Wikipedia! I am not EDITING!

And why do you continue to NOT help and talk to me like a dog! How were you raised?!

I am not doing anything belligerently or criminally. I may make mistakes from not knowing, but I am trying to educate myself so that I can stay on track. And to do that, I have to talk to people who can help me, which many Wiki Editors who have now become involved are doing. Except YOU.

You continue to be Rude, no information to help, accusative and suspicious.

What is wrong with you?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Undeclared paid editing is a breach of the terms of use that you have to agree to abide by when you edit here, and Wikipedia takes editing in areas where you have a personal or professional interest very seriously. Theroadislong (talk) 11:17, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Revision to ABC Bank Kenya page

Hi Theroadislong. Thanks for your help. Please let me know the exact statement and I will be happy to amend or pull it down to show factual information. Thanks.Ruth Mbugua (talk) 11:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Disclose

That is not true. Again you are being accusatory.

You didn't Discover me! I gave up this information, in earnest; not because I was trying to hide or be sneaky, but because I was trying understand WHY and IF, for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanComm13 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your review of Angela Clarke (British Writer, on Bahrain). I have updated it. Can you check again and let me know if any more updates are needed.

````mejoel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mejoel (talk • contribs) 06:28, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Robert Pearce Elworthy

Hi.

I understand that concern is raised about the neutrality (or otherwise) of the Start article on Robert Pearce Elworthy. It would be helpful to have a conversation about this issue. My phone number is 01892 525280. Philip Clarkson Webb (talk) 15:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC) Philip Clarkson Webb.

No thank you, anything you have to say can be said on the article's talk page for all to see, Talk:Robert Pearce Elworthy. Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

its reliable

isnt IMDB reliable pleasebro approve it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geroge Mason (talk • contribs) 16:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

IMDb is user edited so is not considered reliable sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 17:03, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Mother Teresa: The Saint and Her Nation

Thank you very much for reading the draft page. Mother Teresa: The Saint and Her Nation

Please note that all the information is correct and comes from the book published by Bloomsbury Academic in 2020: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Mother_Teresa/0aL8DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=alpion&printsec=frontcover

As you correctly note the information also available from Bloomsbury website: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/mother-teresa-9789389165067/

However, I though it would be better if I referenced the google book website mentioned above.

Happy to take on board advice how to resolve this issue.

Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penestet (talk • contribs) 20:46, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

The content is copyrighted and cannot be used, all content needs to be written in your own words, the draft has been rejected. Theroadislong (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I would have been happy to edit the draft page according to instructions but you or someone else had deleted it. All that work has gone for nothing! Is it possible to retrieve the deleted draft? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penestet (talk • contribs) 13:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Penestet You copied and pasted copyright content from elsewhere, you cannot do that, an admin is unlikely to undelete it for that reason. Theroadislong (talk) 13:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. This could have been easily rectified. The issue is can the draft page be retrieved so I can edit it accordingly. The excerpts from quotes were taken from the book and they were duly referenced. I do not mind starting the page afresh after a few weeks (I am afraid I am very busy these days) but it is a shame all that work yesterday went for nothing. I fully agree with your decision to delete the draft page, however. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penestet (talk • contribs) 14:35, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

You would have to speak to the deleting admin Jimfbleak, I am not an admin. Theroadislong (talk) 14:38, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Clay Millican

Thank you for reviewing my draft and for making notations. I have edited the references and I trust the changes are what is needed. Thank you again for the constructive criticism as this is my first attempt at submission of an article to Wikikpedia.Pastormikeu (talk) 21:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I have rewritten several paragraphs to show a more neutral tone. Again, I thank you for the advice Pastormikeu (talk) 23:09, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Request on 22:04:28, 7 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Madbradaustin

• Madbradaustin (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Sam Grow (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for your feedback on my submission. For a recording artist (music) most of the secondary sources will be music based such as biographical interviews, music profiles on music platforms, etc. Can you give an example or two that I can source for a suitable second source for this type of individual that IS acceptable? I've linked website articles, video and print interviews, news recaps of events, etc. I'm struggling to identify what that secondary source would be. Would it be safe to assume most of what I've added already is more a Primary source versus a secondary source based on this page? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary,_secondary_and_tertiary_sources

Thank you greatly for your time and feedback Madbradaustin (talk)Madbradaustin

Madbradaustin (talk) 22:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I think probably all your sources would be considered primary, independent reviews in the music press would be useful if you can find any. Theroadislong (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

eikoku roshukai page...

hi, I just realised the sample text I put in sounds more like an advert than a history narrative! I have no experience at this, so might need some help to link in to other pages etc... I would like it to end up something like the British Kendo association page, and also add some documents (as pdf's?) that people can read... I want to be able to link to Muso jikiden eishin ryu, but even the help page is a bit beyond what I understand about creating text on the web... any help appreciated...

regards, Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chidokan (talk • contribs) 22:39, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Article review

Hello Theroadislong ... i got the comment you left on the article contribution [Dratf:Chigan Madu] and i noticed the article was not approved for being notable...i followed all the notability guidelines before creating the article and the sources are verified sources and not a press release !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grhodig2017 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

You will need to demonstrate that you pass the criteria at WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 17:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Two of the three sources currently in the draft are in fact the same press release. The third source (Vanguard) reads exactly like a press release as well – even if it's not a PR, it is still not independent since it is entirely promotional in tone, and built around quotes from Madu himself. --bonadea contributions talk

Am sorry for the rough editing

Wealth ZZZ (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)Wealth ZZZWealth ZZZ (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Thomas Joseph Scanlon

Hi:

Thanks for your comments on my draft page about my deceased father.

I am not sure how to respond to comments, so I just left a message for Modussiccandi after he declined the draft page on Thomas Joseph Scanlon, who died in 2015.

As my father was recognized internationally for his lifetime contributions to the study of disasters, and a book he wrote (Catastrophe: Stories and Lessons from the Halifax Explosion) was just published, I thought he met the standard for a Wikipedia page.

I tried to keep the page objective and all of the information is drawn from indicated sources or from his own memoirs, which are not published (which I assume might be a problem).

The question I asked Modussiccandi is whether I should edit out the information I took from my father's memoirs and only cite available sources. I was under the impression it was okay to write about someone I knew if I kept the information objective.

Thanks for any feedback as I'm not clear how or if to proceed.

Sincerely

Not sure how to sign my posts Scanlonjd (talk) 00:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC) ?

scanlonjd

James David Scanlon (Dave)— Preceding unsigned comment added by scanlonjd (talk • contribs)

(talk page watcher)@Theroadislong and Modussiccandi: I noticed this draft and gave it a trim to remove the unsourced material. Seems like he might pass WP:NPROF, but I did not assess any of the sources. Possibly (talk) 03:14, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

More information added to Draft:Dana Distortion Yavin

Hi Nathan!

Happy New Year. I've researched some more and added new information I found on Dana Distortion's work. I think it's all legit sources? Also, I organized, cleaned, and fixed the draft according to your recent notes. Please let me know what you think?

Thanks, and looking forward to hearing back from you.

Nora — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nora Shelly (talk • contribs) 18:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Christoffer Harlang

Hi Theroadislong :) It was not translated for the danish page - but a lot of the info is also on the danish page ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopherhjortholt (talk • contribs) 19:00, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference, you have only one source for your draft, you need to reference every single substantive fact with an independent, reliable source. Theroadislong (talk) 19:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I wanted saw that you recently reviewed my article but it was rejected, I have looked at some of your articles and I have to say you are a very talented writer😁. Gianfranco is a man who has had a great impact here in Kenya and although I know that his article might not be what you were looking for, but I wanted to know if you could please do us a favour and accept this article to so it may be published, this would really mean a lot to us.

Yours Sincerely, Ben Aching. Achting428 (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni was declined NOT rejected, you need to add sources. No draft would ever be accepted by anyone without any sources. If he has had a great impact in Kenya it will be simple to find and add the sources that support that, good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 22:38, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok that sounds great I’ll add in some sources, thank you. Achting428 (talk) 11:29, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Gabriel Aduda

Hello, how are you doing?

I have made some changes and added more references to the article. I have also re-submitted for your kind review.

Seuntechnaire (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding draft: DanaDistortionYavin

Hi again, thanks for replying. I'm not sure what "independent of Yavin" means? Can you please explain?

Thanks Nora — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nora Shelly (talk • contribs) 00:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Dana Distortion Yavin

Hi again, Just a quick note. As I'm a fan of Dana's work and since this is the first time I write an article on Wikipedia I tried to look at other photographers I admire that seems to be in the same category and the sources seemed to be very similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katarina_Benzova https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Clinch

Would appreciate your input on what should be added or changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nora Shelly (talk • contribs) 01:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Article for creation

I will like to get some help from you and I would be glad if you can do so. I want to create a new page Name: Nbn by FiberMax and I just want to know if you would be able to review it when done for fast approval. Please kindly leave me a message Wealth ZZZ (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC) Wealth ZZZ Wealth ZZZ (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Wealth ZZZ That would depend on whether it met the relevant criteria, notability of a topic is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources.

Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage. Good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Shochiku Studio

Hi. I would like you to kindly re-view the subject again as I added additional contents and references I think enough for "significant coverage". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hama takashi (talk • contribs) 12:24, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Tomos Roberts

Hello, Theroadislong... Thank you, kindly, for reviewing my draft in such a timely fashion. I appreciate your hard work and diligence.
When my draft was initially declined, it was due, in part, to the same reason you've provided (non-neutral POV, peacock terms, etc.). I worked diligently to correct this issue because, indeed, I had "editorialized" in some areas. I am fully prepared to better my draft, though I'm not entirely sure where I've erred in adopting a non-neutral POV. If possible, could you provide me with some examples?
Also, would you say that this issue is the final stumbling block to having my draft accepted?
Once again, thank you for the work you do! Much appreciated!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 14:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC))

Hello Theroadislong... I'm highly discouraged. I have about four different reviewers coming at me from seemingly various directions with diverging critiques. I'm basically stuck staring at my draft not knowing where to begin or whether it's even worth it (after ~6 months of hard work).
I'm simply looking to volunteer my time and abilities in helping the Wikipedia community, and I feel under attack and even mocked. This was supposed to be an enjoyable experience and it's now bordering on "nightmarish". I see all sorts of variations (re: structure, style) on numerous Wikipedia pages. I see links to YouTube (on Wikipedia) that are far more questionable than the links I've provided.
I'm working to reduce the number of references, I'm attempting to ensure that the article is presented with a neutral POV and I intend to continue reducing the amount of Wikipedia links (I've already removed a good number of them). That said, a few times now, I've been told that something is non-neutral, when, in fact, I'm simply paraphrasing a reputable article. If the Washington Post mentions that the theme of one of Tomos' compositions (poems) is hope and optimism, that's not my POV; that's what the WaPo reported. If I watch one of his video creations (spoken word poetry) and I mention, for example, the background setting or the topic in question, I don't believe that's my POV; it is what it is (for lack of a better expression). I'm definitely not trying to be a wise guy, but if the sky is blue, then it's blue... this is rather objective. If I state that the sky is beautiful, then I'm veering more into subjectivity. These are just examples... nothing specific per se.
Insofar as YouTube links, the ones I've employed aren't opinion pieces about that particular topic; they are links to the projects themselves (in this case, the spoken word poetry videos). This is integral to my draft in many cases.
Lastly (and I apologize for seemingly whining), every time my page is submitted anew, a different reviewer is "assigned" to me or, like today, I have 3-4 different reviewers coming at me. It's inconceivable to expect uniformity and exact consistency from one reviewer to the next, so the continual back-and-forth could carry on indefinitely - or nearly. That's a bit daunting. Is it possible to have one reviewer assigned to me?
Again, I apologize if it seems as though I'm complaining, but as I mentioned, I'm just really discouraged.
Any help / guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, kindly!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 00:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC))

Creating an article is the most difficult task on Wikipedia and you have dived straight in. Once submitted anyone is free to edit a draft and as user Possibly has pointed out “A large draft such as the one you have created has zero chances of being published without help, as it contains literally hundreds of errors that are preventing that”

All the reviewers are saying the same things basically. You say that “If I watch one of his video creations (spoken word poetry) and I mention, for example, the background setting or the topic in question” no that is NOT allowed that is what we call original research. All of the links to Facebook need to be removed, likewise the YouTube links, we have no interest in them, Wikipedia only reports on what independent reliable sources say. The draft will not be accepted until it is hacked back to what is correctly sourced. You have reverted the most useful edits of User Possibly, so I’m not sure how I can help you? A single paragraph with three good sources would probably make an acceptable draft but not the current enormous tract. Theroadislong (talk) 08:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong... Thank you, once again! I've made many changes (including User Possibly's recommendations), though additional work still needs to be undertaken. I'm working to drastically pare down the content (of the draft), to eliminate superfluous and non-reliable references (I've removed nearly 50, I believe), to reduce Wikipedia links as well as to adopt, at all times, a neutral POV. I'm not done, but I've made steady progress - so far. I will continue abiding by your recommendations and by the recommendations of others. I do genuinely appreciate the help!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 01:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC))

Hello, Theroadislong... I can't thank you enough for your patience and all your help! It's truly appreciated!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 19:36, 17 January 2021 (UTC))

Please review draft

Hello, I updated my article as per your requirements. Please take a look over it when you get the chance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amina_Muaddi

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xforeverlove24 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

AfC reviewed

Hi there. I noticed you have recently reviewed my first AfC submission.. thank you! Before you reviewed it however, someone else had reviewed it and marked it as not accepted. What does your subsequent review mean? Do I need to do anything, like re-submit the page? Do I keep waiting for more reviews? thanks for any help! MurphCooper (talk) 15:37, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

MurphCooper I have not made any edits to your draft or reviewed it? I may have marked the page as patrolled maybe that is what you saw? Theroadislong (talk) 15:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Theroadislong No edits have been made, but I definitely have a notification saying "The page Draft:Broadwick Live has been reviewed". And then your username is underneath..

Tiz a mystery to me, I'm afraid, sorry! Theroadislong (talk) 16:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I have added in the sources for the article about Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni, I hope it’s all ok now, please let me know if I have to add anything else.

Yours sincerely, Ben Aching Achting428 (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I have also re submitted the draft.👍 Achting428 (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Very helpful, thorough and hard-working. Also, tough, but fair. Thank you! Ryancoke2020 (talk) 17:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I saw your comment about having a neutral approach and theme throughout the article so I have made the changes and published them, they should be fixed now. Please let me know if you would like me to change anything else, I am finding your guidance very helpful as I am learning new things that I will use when I take on other articles😁.

Thank you very much, Ben Aching. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Achting428 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Anna Foka Webpage!

Thank you ever so much for your comments. I have now edited the webpage and added sources and links.

Please let me know if the page is improved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MachineLurer (talk • contribs) 15:03, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much. The academic fits notability as is the director of the Centre for Digital Humanities at Uppsala University (Criterion 6) The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.

see relevant link from the institution for verification.

https://katalog.uu.se/organisation/?orgId=X96:3

Thank you ever so much for your work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MachineLurer (talk • contribs) 14:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Recent Article on Clarke Waggaman

Thank you for your feedback on my recent article. This is my first wikipedia submission, so I have been having difficulty contributing on this platform, but am enjoying the learning process. I recently rewrote the majority of the article so that direct quotes were removed to avoid any copyright infringements. I also added more citations and articles to help strengthen the article's integrity. If you could kindly review these changes, I'd love for this lost architect of DC to have a wikipedia page to get more people talking about his work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike0000145 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Same names

Thanks for your feed back Theroadislong. Can I take the page down? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernie Masterson (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

You can just blank the page which will indicate that you wish it to be deleted. Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Tomos Roberts

Hello Theroadislong... It's only been one day since the draft was last declined, but that said, I've already removed approx. 33 links/references and I've significantly reduced the content of the draft - with much more to go. I've also removed many Wiki links within the body of the text as well as an entire section (which didn't belong). Please keep in mind that I'm a first responder and it's a very busy & dangerous time, so I'm only afforded so much time in the course of a day or night to edit the draft. I will address the YouTube links shortly, but I'd kindly ask for your indulgence.
Thank you,
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 18:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC))

Hello Theroadislong... Update: I've removed the vast majority of the YouTube links, as requested. That said, I've spared a few because I believe they may be legitimate sources.

1. 14 - CNN (YouTube)
   
2. 31 - Constellation Dreamers (YouTube) ... This one's questionable, but perhaps?
   
3. 33 - BBC London (YouTube)
   
4. 39 - Sofar Sounds (YouTube) ... Perhaps questionable, but Sofar Sounds does have a Wikipedia page
   
5. 40 - Fuse TV Manchester - Manchester University (YouTube) ... Perhaps?
   
6. 44 - Britain's Got Talent (YouTube)
   
7. 45 - Good Morning Britain (YouTube)
   

At your convenience, please let me know if any of these YouTube links can be used as references. Thanks for your patience!
Ryan (Ryancoke2020 (talk) 20:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC))

I would not use any personally, I tend to think that if the content can't be sourced somewhere else then it probably shouldn't be included at all, but it certainly isn't forbidden to use YouTube in certain cases. Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

±== Draft:Sweet Cherry Publishing ==

Hi, sorry what do you mean by 'any independent sources?' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diviakainth (talk • contribs) 21:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Sources independent of the company or the awards. Theroadislong (talk) 22:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I have tried by best to find some new independent sources but it’s not easy to find any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diviakainth (talk • contribs) 22:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Acceptance is dependent on there being significant coverage of the company in independent sources. Theroadislong (talk) 22:20, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi - I've re-cited to independent sources. Please let me know if the article is now accepted :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dk36 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Please check my latest edits and let me know if this can go live yet

Help

You rejected my article, can you give me more reasons how its bad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidPlayzYT (talk • contribs) 22:37, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Your draft User:DavidPlayzYT/sandbox/Another Small Step (ROBLOX Movie was rejected because it has zero sources and no indication of how it might be notable. Theroadislong (talk) 22:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

DREXSPORT, Wild Whey, Wild Muscle

Hi

Thank you for taking the time to review my pages so quickly. I was not in any way trying to fraudulently post any articles. I receive no direct or indirect payment from DREXSPORT. I certainly don't have shares in the company since it is not public and just a small business.

As a freelance editor, I came across the DREXSPORT webpage, and I was impressed. I do a lot of copywriting for people on Amazon (where I found DREXSPORT), but DREXSPORT is not compensating me. I deal with many Amazon sellers who sell just junk and go from one product to another. Yes, I know the owner and worked with him in the past. He is not paying me to post on Wikipedia. He is in his early 30s and built DREXSPORT from scratch. This year his company, DREXSPORT, is sponsoring athletes who cannot afford protein powder by giving free protein powder to 10 Indian athletes for free--a roughly $7,000 value. I think that is notable and honorable. DREXSPORT (the owner always wants to remain anonymous) is a special company--it is helping people. The owner was broke eight years ago, and now he is successful. He is a minimally educated Indian man who grew up in rural India. That sounds like the American Dream to me. His company is based in Wyoming.

I believe it's pretty special for him to sponsor athletes. He is very generous and wants to give back to his country. I think he deserves a Wikipedia page. Period. He is not paying me to post on Wikipedia. Actually, it was going to be a surprise.

I can see how the Wild Whey and Wild Muscle read like sales copy, but not the DREXSPORT article. I will take out links to Amazon. I thought I looked at Wikipedia's TOS carefully. Apparently, I missed something. This is on me. My goal is to make people aware of a small business and owner who beat the odds and gives to his community.

Please tell me what I need to do to change the DREXSPORT article so Wikipedia will publish it. I will forget about the two product pages. I wrote the article myself. No plagiarism was involved, and my intention was not to advertise. Tell me what to do to correct the error.

Thank you,

Linnea Reilly — Preceding unsigned comment added by LinneaReilly (talk • contribs) 09:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Notability of a topic is judged by looking at the depth of coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources.

Novice editors are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage. Your drafts had zero reliable sources and were written like advertisements. They were rejected and will not be considered further, I think you may have miss-understood what Wikipedia is about. Theroadislong (talk) 09:22, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @LinneaReilly: I think you're putting the cart before the horse; Wikipedia articles do not exist to raise awareness of the subject, as you have hoped (I think he deserves a Wikipedia page), but only serve as a record of what makes subjects notable. No amount of editing can rescue a subject from a lack of notability. You may want to pursue alternative outlets to raise awareness, which could potentially have the side effect of reliable secondary sources writing about DREXSPORT. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:55, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Paruthumpara

Hi

Thanks for the comment.

I am pretty new to wikipedia edit and "Paruthumpara" is my first article.

I am on the learning process of creating articles.

Can you please tell me why the sentence "village is surrounded with beautiful greenery" is not neutral tone ?

I would like to learn more and will need help from experienced people like you.

Thanks

Ittymaathu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ittymaathu (talk • contribs) 09:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi! What do you mean by "None of the sources support information" or something like this? I woul appreciate you fixing that page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkateboardingWiki (talk • contribs) 12:53, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I think I have deleted that page now?

Hi there, I think I have deleted that page now. At least I hope I have as I don't want to cause any issue for anyone in the future.

thanks for your correspondence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bernie Masterson (talk • contribs) 16:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikilove goat

He's trying to get autoconfirmed. WP:NOTHERE I just reverted a series of useless edits. TimTempleton <sup>(talk) (cont)</sup> 20:27, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

Hope you are well, just wanted to ask if it would be Ok to accept the article, I have added all the sources and wrote it from a neutral stance. Also thank you very much for your help you have reall improved my knowledge about the requirements for article publishing.

Thank you very much, Ben Achting Achting428 (talk) 20:29, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Qualcomm Hexagon article

THe draft I have made is intended as a replacment for the article that is present now. It contains much of the same content but it intended to be more intelligibe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoenix-anna (talk • contribs) 21:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

You need to edit the actual article or post your suggestions on the article's talk page we don't replace articles by submitting new drafts? Theroadislong (talk) 21:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing my article

Hi! I saw that the article that I wrote has been declined. May I know what else I can improve to be approved. I also couldn't figure out adding image. When I try adding image, it says it is already exist but I do not know how to use that existing image.

I will be very much grateful for your help.

Thank you,

Khaye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaycelyn (talk • contribs) 22:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding an image is not important at this stage, but formatting sources inline is essential, please read WP:REFB as advised for help. Theroadislong (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Bob Gomel : Eyewitness page

Hi,

I am new at this.

I got a message that said the subject was not adequately references.

This is for a documentary that I made.

I added links to iMDB, the movie itself, social media presence, and several 3rd party reviews that speak specifically about the film.

Please let me know why these are not adequate and what else I can do to satisfy the requirement.

Thanks

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scarbrd2020 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

None of your sources on Draft:Bob Gomel : Eyewitness are reliable or independent. Theroadislong (talk) 22:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I have links to 3 independent 3rd party reviews. There is a link to the actual movie. I also have links to the web page, FB, Twitter and IG accounts.

Also link to the iMDB listing of the movie that has been vetted and verified.

What other types of references will fit the requirement?

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the requirement. Are the references to verify that the movie exists?

Or am I formatting them incorrectly? I could not find a template that worked for specific references, so I added the review links manually.

Thanks for your help on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scarbrd2020 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

How to insert ISBN

Thanks. May I know how I can out ISBN — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaycelyn (talk • contribs) 22:51, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I have added one as an example, but please aware that self published books confer little notability. Theroadislong (talk) 23:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Request on 09:35:44, 16 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Rathoredeepa

• Rathoredeepa (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mangesh Amale (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

i m really not getting it why my submitted draft was rejected can anybody help me

Rathoredeepa (talk) 09:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Gianfranco Cicogna Mozzoni

Hello Theroadislong,

I just wanted to ask what you meant by external sources.

Thank you, Ben Achting Achting428 (talk) 09:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

You have "external links" to Southern farms and Buckingham University in your draft, we don't use external links in the body of an article. Theroadislong (talk) 09:53, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Fedor Lavrov

Hello and Happy New Year, hope it's going to be the better year ever. Simply could not be any other way. Please, I have been waiting for the further supervision of my article since the last September. I hope the article has not gone invisible for review. And maybe soon it will be accepted and published. I amended everything. as it seems to me. Thank you in advance. Stay safe! raegandrop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raegandrop (talk • contribs) 14:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I will leave it to another reviewer to take a look, it's not clear how they pass WP:NMUSICIAN. Tumblr and Bandcamp are not reliable independent sources either. There are many thousands of other articles that require improvement whilst you wait. Theroadislong (talk) 14:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Mother bird

Why u rejected state clearly? Sarika9140 (talk) 20:57, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

The topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 21:01, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

So how to make it a sufficiently notable inclusion for Wikipedia? Plz tell Sarika9140 (talk) 11:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Un-archived section

Hi, I have noticed a section on the top of your talk page which has been put here in November. Possibly, if it was separated from the archiver's template by an empty line and given its own section title—say, “Reply from User:RSLLX on paid editing”—it would get archived finally...? --CiaPan (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks... I've done that. Theroadislong (talk) 22:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Would like help in editing my draft CallRail @Theroadislong

Hey there!

Thank you for the quick review of my page. I also sent a note via the Teahouse, but not sure I did it right. I'm pretty new to Wikipedia editing and I'm still getting a hang from this.

Apart from that, my recent article submission, CallRail, was declined by you. I would like your help in understanding how I can improve this submission.

When creating the article, I used an existing Wikipedia page—HubSpot— as my guide. I studied their sources and how they framed up the topic with the hope that my post would not get flagged. Can you help me further understand and point me in the right direction? I can strip the copy down to sound more neutral but would like some guidance in terms of source finding, etc.

Please and thank you! AzumSauce07

P.S - Is this the right way to work with a verified Wikipedia editor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AzumSauce07 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 17 January 2021 (UTC) AzumSauce07 (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2021 (UTC)AzumSauce07

AzumSauce07 It looks like other editors are already helping to improve your draft, be sure to disclose any conflict of interest you may have regarding the company. Theroadislong (talk) 10:54, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Mother Bird (sculpture)

Hey, you have rejected my Article simply because a user had included my article in his article named Momo Challenge hoax. You know it's logically wrong to include an article in another article. You can't include Blue Whale (fish) article in Blue Whale challenge article. The user had to write about Momo Challenge hoax not on Mother Bird (sculpture). Yeah, he could write that the horror figure of Momo is derived from a sculpture called Mother Bird.

You rejected my article because of this reason. Now plz accept it and remove Mother Bird (sculpture) part from Momo Challenge hoax article or tell me, I'll remove it.

Thank you.

Regards,

Sarika9140 Sarika9140 (talk) 14:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I have added back the submit button to Draft:Mother Bird (sculpture) it will need much better sourcing if it is to be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 15:00, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi thnx for editing my Draft and plz remove that part from Momo Challenge hoax article. I will do Good sourcing, sure!!! Thank u again Sarika9140 (talk) 15:05, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

And u r saying good sourcing. Plz can u tell which type of sources do I use for my article. Sarika9140 (talk) 15:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

reliable ones that actually mention "Keisuke". Theroadislong (talk) 15:18, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay sure!!! Sarika9140 (talk) 15:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

OKEY BUT HOW CAN I CHANGE THE TITLE OF DRAFT PAGE?

DJ JAYLON W HERE — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ JAYLON (talk • contribs) 19:58, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Jim Wirt

Hey there!

I'm the publicist creating the Jim Wirt page. Just wanted to let you know I originally had a huge page full of discography and facts about him, but it kept getting taken down because I couldn't cite my sources. I'll keep trying though! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarajanemorse (talk • contribs) 21:41, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Quite right too, Wikipedia only reports on what reliable sources have written about him. Paid editing whilst tolerated by some is despised by many of us, any content you add will be subject to intense scrutiny. Theroadislong (talk) 21:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

For Draft: Ben Hum

Hi theroadislong! :) I understand the reason was due to insufficient notability but I would like to clarify that in my country, said person is a singer-songwriter who has received media coverage from our local media news channel and even overseas news platforms. For Notability (music), I believe said artiste has fulfilled the following:

- Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself

- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.

- Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition.

Would like to seek some advice and would need some help right here on how you think I could improve on the article. Appreciate your kind assistance.

Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, profiles and spotify are not reliable independent sources sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 09:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Appreciate it!