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No Means No (film)

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Currently fails WP:NFILM, unreleased, no evidence that production itself is notable. Since it will be released within 6 months, I recommend a result of move to Draft: with a requirement that it go through WP:AFC. After 6 months, if it is not edited by a person and not approved through WP:AFC, it will be "soft-deleted" through the normal WP:G13 stale-draft-deletion cleanup. No evidence it meets any other notability criteria at this time. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment by nominator: I also nominated the page about the lead actor, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dhruv Verma. Currently, I do not think either the actor or this film meets Wikipedia's notability criteria for inclusion. It is possible that one or both will do so within 6 months. If either one does, the odds of the other doing so are significantly higher. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Draftify WP:TOOSOON Donaldd23 (talk) 23:10, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Draftify per above. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 23:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. There was some coverage in Polish media in 2018: [1] (Dziennik Zachodni), [2] (Super Express, but that's like Polish Daily Mail...)... nothing since. Borderline IMHO, but could be rescued? Also it supposed to have a premier in two months, which might generate coverage. Wish there was a way to check back on such drafts in 2-3 months. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  As nominator, I am recommending draftification with a firm AFC requirement instead of deletion specifically because the movie will premiere within the 6-month time window and, if it does become a notable topic, there's no need to "start from scratch." There IS a way to check back on drafts in 2-3 months, I'll leave details on your talk page. Regarding Polish-language sources, if there are reliable, independent sources that provide significant coverage, please provide a rough summary translation on the article's talk page and post a note here. Also, if the film currently meets the criteria for an article on the Polish-language Wikipedia, please write one and link it to the English-language one, even if the link will be broken if this page is deleted or draftified. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Keep - appears to pass both GNG and NFILM. There is no rule that we cannot have pages on unreleased movies, and we often have pages before filming even begins. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 21:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Comment Actually, User:El cid, el campeador, there are rules for unreleased films...WP:NFF. One of the points is "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." This film doesn't appear to have a notable production. Donaldd23 (talk) 23:10, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Keep - I have extensively researched the first Indo-polish movie “No means No” also known as "Nie Means Nie"  and have found articles from the notable sources:

   01. Bennett & Coleman’s 100 years old leading newspaper The Times of India articles covering the production house and the project “No means No”
       Article in Times of India
       Article 02 in Times of India
   02. Mid-day Newspaper Article 
       Article
   03. Cineblitz
       Article in Cineblitz
   04. Interview of Mr. Vikash Verma on Republic TV, Poland
       Interview
   05. Start of Filming of the Movie
       Start of Filming of the Movie
       Title
   
     The production can be classified as notable with finding of my research as below:
     A. As the government officials of Poland mentioning in their tweet
       Tweet
     B. The cast of the film are notable actors with vast industry experience of more than 400 films, like Gulshan Grover, Sharad Kapoor, Armaan Kohli & Hariharan the legendary Music Director & Singers like Shreya Ghoshal are working with this production house.
     C. The content can be supported with various articles and pictures showing up on google search which can be counted to be more than 200 articles from notable sources.
     D. These articles and sources are also listed on the IMDB Pro page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archiedesai (talk • contribs) 19:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC) 

@Archiedesai: Thank you. While the sources aren't the best (even The Times of India is not always reliable per WP:TOI), this is exactly the kind of "rescue effort" that could save this topic, if the sources check out as being reliable, independent, and in-depth. If you find anything in-depth from a source listed as reliable in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources or which is NOT listed as unreliable there and is well-known enough as a reliable source that nobody will question it, that might just do the trick. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Keep - “No means No”,  searching on google, found the first Indo-Polish film "No Means No”.  Article on reliable sources like Zee News of Zee Media, India’s one of the biggest News Website ABP Live and also there are youtube video on India’s two biggest news channel name as ABP Bihar owned by ABP News Network and Bihar tak owned by India Today Television. Everyday there is a news reporting about the movie and its production house G7 Films. With the prominent Film Personalities like Gulshan Grover (worked in more than 400 Hollywood & Bollywood movies), is an actor in the film, Shreya Ghosal is the singer in the movie, whose statue is placed at Madam Tussaad’s Museum, and Mission Impossible famed choreographer Shiamak Davar has choreographed this film.

1. Zee News article of 18th December, 2020
2. ABP Live is an Indian Hindi news website owned by ABP News Network which has covered the Movie "No Means No"
3. ABP Bihar is an Indian Hindi news channel is owned by ABP News Network speaks about the movie "No means No"
4. Bihar Tak is an Indian Hindi News channel owned by India Today Television also provide information on the movie "No means No". ~~