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Club 20

Hello amigos! Im approaching my first 20 years at Wikipedia, my anniversary officially (I had done articles without being a member for about 2 weeks prior) on September 17, 2022....I was just wondering is there a list of wikipedians who have been working for 20 years? And if there isn't, should we have one?

Also, this being a Teahouse, how come we don't have a coffee house, perhaps a Starbucks, which I absolutely love!!?

Thanks and God bless you! Antonio Starbucks Addict Martin (Dimelo!) 08:33, 29 January, 2021 (UTC)

AntonioMartin, well we have a Ten-Year and Fifteen-Year Society. I'm not sure if there's a twenty.... but you can make one if you wish! There could also be a redirect from Wikipedia:Coffee house to here. God bless you too! GeraldWL 08:09, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Geraldo Luis! Sorry for the late reply! Antonio Hooked on Wikipedia Martin (tell the loser here) 12:18, 1 February, 2021 (UTC)

@AntonioMartin: Note: WP:Fifteen Year Society and TYS mentions and Bruce The Deus' logo for it: File:Twenty Years Society (2019, square edit).png.

I remember a discussion somewhere about the term coffeehouse having a somewhat different connotation in some places (e.g., the Netherlands). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

haha Alan...Iwant to go to an Amsterdam coffee house! (its on the red light district, right?) Antonio Red Light District client Martin (tell the loser here) 12:21, 1 February, 2021 (UTC)

hello everybody. If you create the twenty Year Society, I will be so honored to see my logo used 😊.--Bruce The Deus (talk) 17:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, Bruce, we shall if we do...(I hope me or someone else does it anyways) Antonio Pediaddict Martin (tell the loser here) 12:22, 1 February, 2021 (UTC)

Nancy Pelosi

I like to write and have enjoyed looking at your articles as of late, and especially the editor notes, seeing how everything works. I was just perusing the Nancy Pelosi main TALK page & noticed what appeared to be a Sheriff Badge Square & an Editor whose profile did not seem in line with other edits/editors. I believe the name was "Sons" or Sans or similar to that - not completely sure. His profile said he would be leaving for Japan for 9 months and the content seemed entirely out of place from others. When I went back in to review, I could not see it posted any longer, which is also strange. I believe this was vandalism of some kind, or perhaps some virus & was hoping you could review your data storage, as I would not want to see Wiki be exploited, or for any mischief to occur. Or maybe I just clicked back into the wrong place? Thank you. Assistance1026 (talk) 11:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Assistance1026, I can't seem to understand your query. You seem to link an editor real-life activity with his nature of edits? Can you clarify your point to give other editors an easier time understanding? GeraldWL 14:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I may be able to help. I will take a look because it can be removed however it will be in history.20footfish (talk) 12:18, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I can't find your user as there are many. Take a look at the talk page but view history and the top. You can look at prev on the left side of each edit to find it. If you find it and think it was removed by someone else, you can see their reason. If you disagree, you can ask here again and some-one experienced will help you. I apologise if you have already done this as I may have misunderstood but I wanted to help. Someone will check this conversation soon :)20footfish (talk) 12:22, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Likewise. @Assistance1026: Due to the way Wikipedia works, pages can be and are often edited while one is browsing, so I would not consider this anything out of the ordinary. It's entirely possible that it was removed as vandalism, that the user removed it because they've made it there/came back, or for any other number of completely legitimate reasons. I would not consider this anything nefarious in the slightest. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 21:31, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Assistance1026: Looking at [1], Mubogshu removed and hid an edit (what's called "revision deletion" or "revdel") at 22:37 on the 29th, if I’m doing my timezone maths correctly. But that's after you posted here. The one before that was 16 Jan, so I might be barking up the wrong tree. Pelagic ( messages ) – (17:50 Sun 31, AEDT) 06:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

State legislatures

All 50 states have state legislatures. State legislative elections have been held and new members and leadership have been elected. Unfortunately, nearly 3 months after the election, significant updates have not been done. A lot of information is out of date. So Will any concrete step be taken to update the house and senate pages of all 50 state legislatures? Regards, Ppt2003 (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Ptp2003 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people do what they can when they can, based on what interests them. If you would like to see particular work done, I invite you to pitch in and lend a hand. Requests of others to update articles are rarely effective. 331dot (talk) 13:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Ppt2003. As I expect you may know, Wikipedia has no central authority that monitors gaps and dispatches editors to fix them. Rather, Wikipedia is entirely a volunteer project, whose editors edit what interests them. In the absence of such central organization, we can only hope some volunteer like you notice a gap and decides to roll up his or her sleeves to fix it. I mean that earnestly. Since you are the one who noticed this gap, and you appear concerned it exists, you are likely one of our the best bets for filling it. Nevertheless, we do have Wikiprojects that may have aspirations for addressing gaps and doing such updates you are here about. So, one tack you can take is to go to articles on state legislatures, look to the talk pages to see if there's a Wikiproject that has proclaimed it within its ambit, and post to that Wikiproject's discussion page about this. I took a look for New York, and found Wikipedia:WikiProject US State Legislatures (which appears to me to be the most centralized place to post about this issue globally), as well as Wikipedia:WikiProject Capital District and Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Ppt2003 I updated Arizona's state legislatures. Their isn't a lot of Wikipedians that are interested in state legislatures or making their districts. Like Fuhghettaboutit said, you are more than welcome to fill it. Dillon251992 (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Nyerere Ogbonna

I had a tough time with a reviewer who accused me on many issues. I have tried as much as possible to prove my innocence, even to the extent of re-editing my draft, especially on the issues of neutral tone and primary sourcing. First, are articles on Opera News Nigeria not a third party independent sources good enough to be cited on Wikipedia article? Why did the reviewer Theroadislong fail to recognise that the subject of the article and the news reporter on Opera News are not the same person? Anyway, for the sake of peace, I have removed the sources and allowed the remaining seven sources to stay. I believe they are good enough to support the article since I have elsewhere justified that the subject was given enough treatment in the reportage. So, I resubmitted the article for possible review. Please I need your help at least to see that my efforts since morning see the light of the day. Thank you as I believe no one is a monopoly of knowledge. Wikipedia bestows everyone freedom to make contributions with the armpit of its policies and guidelines. No one should use their position to frustrate the genuine efforts of others, especially the young ones. I am not new on Wikipedia and I have two articles I have created own my own and I have made some edits in other pages. I await your review on my newest draft Draft:Nyerere Ogbonna for an inclusion into Wikipedia space. Thanks you once again.Nwachinazo (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC) Nwachinazo (talk) 00:09, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy ping for @Theroadislong:. GoingBatty (talk) 00:33, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Nwachinazo: Note that the yellow template says "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,060 pending submissions waiting for review." While you're waiting, you can add references to replace the [citation needed] messages. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:42, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Nwachinazo: I have commented twice on your desire for haste on having your draft reviewed, and yet you persist, so now I will shout: TEAHOUSE HOSTS ARE NOT DRAFT REVIEWERS. YOU CAN ASK HERE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT AND THAT WILL NOT SPEED A REVIEW. You have resubmitted your once-declined draft after addressing comments. Could be days. Could be weeks. Could be months. Is what it is. David notMD (talk) 02:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

David notMD you are very funny with your shouting. Anyway, I am patient. But you know what it is to see your work come to pass. It is not overdesperation, but a belief that there is dignity of labour. Hahaha.

GoingBatty citation needed given by that reviewer is overstretching the whole issue. Must content creator cite every statement made? The two statements in which tags are added do not always need citation. Or does the reviewer want me to remove the statements because there is no references for them. Meanwhile, the reviewer does not look into the two other newspaper articles (references in the draft) which do not have online sites. I have continued to prove that Wikipedia does not make room for every sentence be cited. In fact, how many sources can make a draft pass for a Wikipedia page? Does Wikipedia give a number? Let me know, friends.Nwachinazo (talk) 07:27, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Nwachinazo, it's not the number of citations that matters, so much as the quality. To establish that the subject is notable, you'll need several reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of him. Maproom (talk) 09:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Maproom for your explanation. I have tried to establish in my various comments here and elsewhere that the article'ssubject has been given in-depth coverage. To cite up to 7 third-party quality sources with four given enough treatment on the subject, is this not enough for an inclusion into Wikipedia space? Of course, all of us know that Wikipedia article once approved is an article in progress. More and more facts and sources emerge every day. No article was published on the Wikipedia is self-sufficient. I repeat, I have used quality and "several references" in Draft:Nyerere Ogbonna good enough to warrant a positive review. But someone is there including redundancies in the space provided for the place of birth and education of the article'ssubject. This is quite unprofessional and unnecessarily bureaucratic, my brother. Anyway, I am positive!Nwachinazo (talk) 09:37, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How do I undo a redirect? Follow-up to My article was removed! Please Help!

Hello, I was able to retrieve my article that was redirected by another editor after I moved it from my sandbox. Can someone advise me on how to undo the redirect? I'm working on it in my sandbox to expand it and make it better and give it more solid sourcing. Do I need to remove the old citations and re-enter the citations? Any other suggestions? RegardsCheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC) Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cheryl Fullerton: I think you're referring to A Thousand Pictures, which now redirects to Craig Chaquico. You can go to https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=A_Thousand_Pictures&action=history and undo the last edit, and then move it to Draft:A Thousand Pictures so you can continue working on it. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:49, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I moved it back to my sandbox but I didn't undo the last edit. Should I redo? Thank you for your help!Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 00:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cheryl Fullerton: I don't see the article at User:Cheryl Fullerton/sandbox. Your sandbox now redirects to Craig Chaquico. My suggestion above stands. GoingBatty (talk) 01:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

[[User:|GoingBatty}} I followed your instructions, but I think I did something wrong. The article lost all the formatting it had previously. I hate to be a pest, but Going Batty, you seem to have a better understanding of the techy part of Wikipedia and if you can guide me a little, I might be able to get it right. I undid the redirect which appeared to be the last edit. Was I then supposed to publish then copy and paste to the Draft? Any help is most appreciated.Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 19:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Move IP edits onto this account?

I made a number of edits and created an article as an IP before making this account.

I can demonstrate that the IP in question is mine.

Is it possible to get the contributions log for that IP reattributed to this account? It also includes some notes on talk pages for edits that I think should be done at some point. Intralexical (talk) 02:42, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

It's impossible to reattribute IP edits to those of an account, and I'm fairly certain it's impossible to merge the contributions of two accounts as well. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 03:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

but you can say on your User page that those edits were yours, if you like Intralexical. --ColinFine (talk) 14:41, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the info folks. I'm not sure I want to publicly associate an IP I've used with my account (that's actually a reason to want to reattribute those edits), so I guess that's that. Intralexical (talk) 22:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

minor vs. major edit question

Hello, Long-time reader, first-time editor. I think I mostly understand the difference between major and minor edits. But if you just simply find a source for one of the sentences or sections, especially when there was no source before, would that be considered a minor edit? Thank you for your answer! Gilfanon (talk) 06:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gilfanon: That would be a major edit. A minor edit is anything that would in no way be controversial, like a spelling correction, removing an extra line break, fixing a broken Wikilink etc. Good advice is that when in doubt, don't mark it as a minor edit. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:48, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Gotcha, thanks! Can I go back and change the label from minor to major? And if not should I do something else? It is for a minor page (the year 993) Gilfanon (talk) 07:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gilfanon: You can't change it anymore, but don't stress out about it. We all mark our edits wrong from time to time. Just be careful next time. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 07:24, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How to report vandalism

There is a number of people who keep deleting content on a page that is cited and appropriate.

How do I handle the situation when that happens?

Sorry if I’m asking a stupid question, aim just knew and finding it hard to understand how to do these things. BomiRustomji (talk) 07:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

BomiRustomji Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. There are no stupid questions here, we are here to help where we can. If you are having a content dispute with another editor or editors, you should first attempt to discuss the matter on the article talk page to attempt to arrive at a consensus as to what the article should say. If discussion fails to resolve the matter, there are channels of dispute resolution that can be used. Users should not simply continue to revert each other's edits to protect their preferred version of an article, that is called edit warring and is not permitted. Being correct is not a defense to edit warring, as every user in an edit war thinks that they are correct. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Royal Canin

The page for Royal Canin is completely false. The company was originally Medi-Cal. That pet food is what was sold in veterinary clinics for years. It wasn't made by Mars, it was made by Medi-Cal. It had nothing to do with Royal Canin or Mars. The entire article states that it was originally Royal Canin and every change or issue in the company's history was as Royal Canin. That is totally false.

This is a problem because as a vet diet, it had a completely different presence than it did once it was bought by Mars. It takes the trust of millions, if not billions of pet owners and manipulates that trust. It basically uses Wikipedia to scam those people. Royal Canin after they bought out Medi-Cal introduces a non-vet line and sold that for a few years. This let the public get used to seeing it. They eventually dropped the name Medi-Cal from the vet line and replaced it with Royal Canin. Making people who didn't buy vet food think they've always produced two lines, one vet, one not. A complete snow job by Mars. Now Mars has bought out VCA, the largest vet chain in the USA and with the other vet chains they've acquired, makes them the largest veterinary chain in the world. That gives them billions of additional customers to sell their food to, all under false pretenses.

This is not some small error. This is major. This page completely rewrites history. The only one who benefits from doing that is Mars. It makes it sound like Mars has been in the business of making vet diets for years which is crap. It looks like they've scrubbed the entire web. You have to dig deep to find the real truth anywhere. That's pretty scary. I can't change this page by myself as I don't know when Mars bought the company or dropped the name. There must be previous versions of the page when it was Medi-Cal and the real page + edits existed on Wikipedia. How do I find someone to help me change it back to say Medi-Cal in the right places? Wikimakeitright (talk) 07:42, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikimakeitright Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state If the sources in the Royal Canin article are not being summarized accurately, please discuss those concerns on the article talk page. The same goes if you have independent reliable sources to support what you state- posing your personal views on the conduct of the company is not appropriate, but we can post reliably sourced content. Wikipedia does not deal in truth, since truth is in the eye of the beholder, but we do deal in what can be verified. If you just want to tell the world about how you see the company, you should do that on social media. 331dot (talk) 07:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

What is a third-party source: The Case of Opera News Nigeria

Are Opera News sources reliable, independent, fact-checking enough to be cited in Wikipedia draft?Nwachinazo (talk) 08:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC) Nwachinazo (talk) 08:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

If you mean this "Opera.com site introduction in 2019"., Nwachinazo, the answer will be "NO" as the site states it is for bloggers from Nigeria. As such, this is entirely a user-generated site with no editorial oversight. Wikipedia does not consider such sites a reliable source. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:14, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Now, you have clarified my thought. I have removed such from my article Draft:Nyerere Ogbonna. Glad to hear that Opera News is a news blog.Nwachinazo (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Adhering to policy

Hi all, I created an account in here many years ago to add content to the page on Dame Vera Lynn (now deceased June 2019). Dame Vera kindly became our patron and we were asked to update her page on Wikipedia accordingly. We did but it seems I broke a policy(s), although I am unsure what policy(s) were broken, I do not wish to make that same error.

I wish to add the term "Moccasin Approach®", not to Dame Vear's page, but to ensure that the term is present on Wikipedia. My concern is that whilst I am doing this for what I believe are the right reasons, I am reluctant to just go ahead as I clearly upset some policy enforcement through my earlier transgression.

The Moccasin Approach® is registered in both the UK and the US. It is in reference to an Emotional Intelligence approach when communicating with others. It was the focus of my master's degree in 2017 which I completed in 2019 (Middlesex University London UK - Professor Brian Sutton).

I would really appreciate some guidance on how to proceed if in fact I am permitted to, as my account flags up in red too I can only assume this is because of my transgression all those years ago).

Thank you very much for your time.

Regards

Mac Mac Macdonald (talk) 10:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Mac Macdonald Your User name was showing up in red because you had no content on your User page. What you had put there in 2019 was not allowed for User pages, hence deleted. I put a few word there, to turn it back to blue. You should delete what I added and replace it with a brief description of your intentions as a Wikipedia editor. Your Sandbox is a place you can work on creating an article. David notMD (talk) 11:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

From your website https://www.lapd.solutions/ it is clear that you developed and trademarked "Moccasin Approach." It appears that other people - not connected to you or your business - have not written/published about your endeavor. For this reason, it cannot meet Wikipedia's concept of notability. WP:PAID and WP:COI also apply. David notMD (talk) 11:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Mac Macdonald: Just to expand a little... When, back in 2010 you made this edit the problem was that we don't accept external links to organisations within article content, only within references. It would have been better to have made that statement, supporting it by a reliable reference to an independent source, or including the latter within an inline citation at the end of the sentence as a reference. I see the latter approach to citing the flowforall.org website is now present in the article, but I can't check it for accuracy as my browser reports the site is unsafe, with a dubious security certificate - so I'm not prepared to go there to check. I did notice that your userpage was also deleted around the same time - the policy broken there was one of putting in too much promotional material about yourself and your organisation (see this page for gudance on what is not allowed on userpages. Further up that page, you'll see what we do permit.) As David says above, you can't add your 'Moccasin Approach' concept to Wikipedia because it is a non-notable term that you appear to have created, which hasn't been noticed in any significant way or been written about by the world at large. Until it is, it just remains a neologism, which has no place on this encyclopaedia, I'm afraid. See WP:NEOLOGISM for policy more detail. I hope this explanation helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you all for your advice/comments, but think I will give Wikipedia a miss, but a sincere thank you for your time. All the best, Mac. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mac Macdonald (talk • contribs) 16:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Dark mode

How to enable it on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.181.116.105 (talk) 10:07, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Are you using the Android App for Wikipedia? It has a light/dark mode toggle in its display settings.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Where can i practice?

Where can i practice? --윤은강 (KOREA) 10:20, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@윤은강: On your user page you should have a sandbox tag. In the sandbox you can paractice wikipedia edits, pages, templates and ererything else and it will published there on your sandbox page. From there you can copy and paste to reader-visible pages. So you can use the sandbox to experiment, to construct complex stuff, new pages, &c and then use the contents in the "real" wikipedia. Good luck, best wishes. Brunswicknic (talk) 11:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@윤은강: You could also create a subpage of your userpage if you like. GoingBatty (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

ask about my contributes

hi i sent a change in Knowledge page snowed send me : (Please don't use wikipedia to write down your own opinion) snowerFor reference ----- i dont sent my opinion i sent Ph.d Farhang Mehrvash opinion about knowledge But since his opinion has not been published yet, you can search the internet for [personal information redacted], an associate professor at the Islamic Azad University of Gorgan, and write to him about his opinion on science and ask for his opinion or article. Get my confirmation from them on your site Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by معین پورصادق (talk • contribs) 11:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Two experienced editors have now reverted your addition to an article. The reason is that the content you added does not reference what is considered a reliable source publication. You say above that Mehrvash has not published the work. If you wish to have a discussion on what belongs in the article in question, the right place is on the Talk page of the article. David notMD (talk) 11:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@معین پورصادق: welcome to the Teahouse. Please do not post any personal information or contact information for yourself or other people here. Wikipedia articles are based on information that has been published in reliable secondary sources, and Wikipedia cannot be used to publish such information unless other, independent, sources have written about it first. You can't require that other editors (or Wikipedia's readers) should contact another individual to have any information verified. Please read more about this important principle here. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 11:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Images for the UK Internal Market Act Article

Hello

I was pointed in your direction for some advice on what sort of images would be right for the article UK Internal Market Act 2020. I thought some maps, graphs and images of debates in parliament would be good.

For example I thought the graph of trade in this article would be a good inclusion https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/trade-uk-internal-market

I'm new so I not sure about the rules around copyright etc about getting images (so far I'm just using ones already on wikipedia)

Thanks! 80.42.39.51 (talk) 11:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC) 80.42.39.51 (talk) 11:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. The article in question (United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020) is about the Act itself, not about UK trade. Hence in my opinion the graph about UK trade should go in a more relevant article (such as Economy of the United Kingdom), if anywhere. You are correct that copyright will be an issue for any image and that those already stored on Wikipedia Commons are fine for a start. You should discuss additions to articles on their Talk Pages, if you are unsure what warrants inclusion. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Michael. I take your point on the article being about the act rather than the market, so perhaps a new article specifically on the UK Internal Market would be appropriate to focus on the trade and economics as opposed to the legislative history and impact of the bill? thanks again 80.42.39.51 (talk) 18:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Horst Stump

I want to create a page for boxer Horst Stump who won a Bronze medal at the 1971 European Amateur Boxing Championships, he is also known as being used by the Romanian Communist authorities to to harass and beat up anti-communist writer Paul Goma but I don't know if that is enough to meet Wikipedia's notability rules. Sebi1990TheSecond (talk) 12:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Sebi1990TheSecond: Per Wikipedia:Notability (people), it depends on how much significant coverage you can find. If you like, you could gather all the sources you have and start a draft listing every source as a reference, and then ask for the editors at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing to see if they would be willing to help you. Also see WP:Your First Article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:16, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Sebi1990TheSecond, and welcome to the Teahouse. Notability does not depends on what a person has done, but on what has been published about them. You need at least three sources that are published in reliable sources (such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers), independent of the subject (not based on interviews or press releases), and contain significant coverage about him. See NSPORTS. I see that Paul Goma contains the claim about Stump, which is cited to a book. My guess is that the book does not say much about Stump, just mentions him, but I may be wrong: if it has significant information about him, that could be one of your sources. You will need to check that book yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 15:16, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

hanoldclaqueyu

 Hanold claqueyu (talk) 12:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Note: very similar section without a question added at the help desk.

@Hanold claqueyu: Do you have a question about how to use or edit Wikipedia? Eagleash (talk) 12:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

article move from sandbox problem

After moving article from my sandbox I have this message at the top of page and do not know how to rectify "This sandbox is in the article namespace. Either move this page into your userspace, or remove the template." Torchbearer-Ted (talk) 13:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC) Torchbearer-Ted (talk) 13:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Torchbearer-Ted: Looks like you resolved the issue in this edit by removing the {{user sandbox}} template. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Review scores box reference | Need to link a reference I created in the Review scores box

Hi, I would like to add the reference #4 that I created in the 4th source of the Review scores box. How do I do that? Also, can I link Colin Larkin's Wikipedia page to the 4th source (The Virgin Encyclopedia of 60s Music) since there are no page for the book itself, but it's mentionned on Colin's page ? Here's the page Work Song (Nat Adderley album). Thank you! The Music Guides Playlists (talk) 14:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@The Music Guides Playlists: In this edit, I named the reference and duplicated it in the Review scores box. In this edit, I added a link from the reference to Larkin's Wikipedia article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

So the name ref was simply Larkin! That simple. All good, learning each day. Thanks for your help and the edit :@GoingBatty:

adding a page

hi, Am new here, I will like the process and steps to take when adding an individual and an organisation. i will also appreciate any help that can make this process faster. thank you Rileydanerd (talk) 14:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Rileydanerd, Welcome to the teahouse. If you are associated with the organization than the first thing you should read is wp:Coi. If you have no association with the individual or the organization, then WP:MFA is the place to go, after reading the info on your talk page. S Philbrick(Talk) 14:49, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding a person and his NON governmental non profit philantopic organistion

please I need help adding a notable person and his organisation here. he is a medical doctor by profession and he runs an NGO that helps the poor in Africa with medical bills amongst others. he is has a large following on social media. if we can communicate via email that will be really helpful. please I really need help with. I will grateful for any help provided Rileydanerd (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Rileydanerd Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. A person merits a Wikipedia article if they receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to do so, showing how the person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. The same goes for organizations, which must be shown to meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. Social media followers are not usually relevant. Wikipedia is not for telling the world about good works; we're just here to summarize what independent sources say. If that's something you are able to do, you may submit a draft using Articles for creation. You may wish to read Your first article.

If you are associated with the person or organization, please read about conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 16:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I would add that most Wikipedia business should be conducted on Wikipedia, for openness and transparency. 331dot (talk) 16:02, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How to Correct Misleading Information

I had a worse experience today when I wanted to update the information of my Director. Firstly I am not getting PAID to update his information, its just that I WORK as an Asst. Director with him.

There are information which are incorrect and few references are added from unrecognised blogs and bot links. how can we correct the ENTIRE Article?

We further have an official website and all relevant information to justify the information which we provide. Kindly guide us in the right way to make wiki articles a source of Genuine Information. Thotanthillaya (talk) 16:10, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

First, if the person is your direct supervisor in your employment situation, you are considered a "paid" editor by Wikipedia even if you were not told to edit Wikipedia. The financial conflict of interest is just unavoidable.

But back to your question: Read WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Paid-contributions disclosure, the details should be there. The short answer is to use the Template:Requested edit template on the TALK page of the article in question.

Disclaimer for the benefit of Teahouse readers: I have been one of the editors reverting major undiscussed edits by Thotanthillaya. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:51, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Davidwrl, Will use that feature and try to resolve the conflict and for the benefit of Teahouse Readers, We just provided FACTS and sadly few editors dont have the sense to go thru them in the right spirit but we will not give up and try to make wiki a clean source of verified information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thotanthillaya (talk • contribs) 16:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Thotanthillaya. If you are employed by the subject of an article, then you certainly meet Wikipedia's criteria for being a paid editor, whether or not it is specifically part of your job to do so. You must make the declarations explained on that page.

Secondly, you also have a conflict of interest, and should not edit the article, but may make edit requests on the article's talk page.

Thirdly, Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Information which is to be found only on your website is unlikely to be appropriate for Wikipedia's article about him. (It may be used a source for a limited range of information: see Primary sources). Generally we require citation to independent sources. --ColinFine (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Thotanthillaya: Also, be careful using the term "we" - each editor is responsible for his or her own edits, and "shared" accounts are not allowed. You can say "My company has asked me to..." or "On behalf of my company I want to..." but when you say "we" it makes it look like more than one person may be using the account, which can only lead to trouble. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks a Lot Team now this is actually helping me to understand how exactly Wiki works. Definitely I will provide the updated links under the Editing Talk Section of the Page in question. Hope this will clear all OUR concerns and lets work together to resolve the misinformation. Happy that the team is active and supportive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thotanthillaya (talk • contribs) 17:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Team, I have updated the Talk Section in the page as suggested, Many Thanks for the assistance. Thotanthillaya (talk) 17:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Thotanthillaya: I suggest you make one suggestion at a time, using {{request edit}} and providing a reliable independent source. When some editors see a dozen paragraphs, they find it overwhelming and move onto other things. GoingBatty (talk) 18:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Concerned about what reads as a very POV article

I mostly focus on WP:HED and recently ran into Symington W. Smith who someone had just pruned off King's College London's alumni list, with a relatively pointed edit summary. I was making sure they were right to remove them given the person had an article so may be notable enough.

Whilst the sources for the article seems to (maybe¹) be sufficient for notability, the extent of the coverage and the detail which seems at times to exceed the given source coverage², I find quite concerning. I have tried to remove the WP:SPS from the article which were behind some of the stronger claims, and tagged it with a few clear concerns, but am unsure if this is too far/not far enough, given it reads right now as a great personal advertisement.

Am I being too harsh on the article, and if not, to what extent should it be pruned and sorted out?

Note 1: I'm not sure if it is, as most of the WP:RS coverage seems to focus on their parents?
Note 2: It might just be picking up details I couldn't find that are hidden in cited long, mostly irrelevant, news articles

Thanks! Shadowssettle _{Need a word?} 16:27, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Writing articles on new mathematical discoveries

Hello everyone, Thank you tremendously for inviting me to Teahouse. I had one doubt in my mind: Are we allowed to write articles on new mathematical formula which is oroved in paper and calculation but not yet published in any journal or paper? Also, how can we use mathematical equations in articles? Does wikipedia support LAteX files or other format? Looking forward to hear from you. Regards Bipin Bhaskaran Nair Bipin Bhaskaran Nair (talk) 16:27, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is more interested in whether it has received coverage other than by its creator/discoverer. Most academic research is considered a "primary source." Much more useful would be discussions of this in general-interest/layperson science/math magazines or non-science/math reliable sources such as "news magazines" or newspapers. Without such coverage, it might not be considered "notable" as Wikipedia defines the term. WP:Your first article might also be useful.

As far as math, please view the "source" for articles that use math formulas. Help:Math may also be helpful. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Images on Wikipedia

Hi, I wanted to put pictures of Tati Westbrook, Jodie Comer and Clare-Hope Ashitey on their respective pages. All of the pictures got rejected because they weren’t licensed. How do I get licensed pictures to go on their pages? KaitlynneLimberg (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

You typically can't unless the copyright owner releases them under a Wikimedia-commons-compatible "free" license. Copyright owners of commercially-valuable photos are unlikely to do so unless they see that it is to their advantage.

That said, Wikipedia does allow non-free images to be used under very specific circumstances. See WP:Non-free content criteria for details. However, for public figures who could be plausibly photographed by you or another editor, this exception almost never applies unless the photo you are trying to use looks significantly different than the current person. For example, a photo of a person who was a public figure a generation or more ago who is either no longer making public appearances or who looks significantly different might qualify for an exception, but a current-day celebrity who makes public appearances where photography is allowed almost certainly would not. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:30, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@KaitlynneLimberg: There are additional suggestions at Wikipedia:Image use policy. GoingBatty (talk) 19:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Why are some many people here hostile to new users?

I've started editing an article recently and I just get attacked from all sides by established users. Why do people automatically assume the worst here? Only one person a user Arcturus was just and welcoming from the get go. A few others later apologised for their initially hostile behaviour and becaome geniunely helpful. Though some even verge on what feels like bullying? It just all feels somewhat extreme for what in my case is quite a niche article. Why can't everyone be like Arcturus? 80.42.39.51 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC) 80.42.39.51 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, "because we're human volunteers" is the best answer I can offer. Every day, literally thousands of people may edit Wikipedia for reasons, and in ways, that are incompatible with its purpose. That's because it's one of the most-viewed sites on the web, which makes it attractive to promoters, vandals, those who think it's a social media site, or those who want to (even with good intentions) share their opinion, or that of others, with the world. It's really hard for us to separate the good from the bad, and we sometimes fail. (Disclaimer: My opinion (ironically I suppose, though this is a talk page), not a comment on any particular case; I haven't looked at the OP's edits.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I somewhat understand your situation, when I first joined Wikipedia. I felt like some people were hostile/somewhat rude to me. I think it could be because they may mistake you for another person, one person who was kind of rude to me thought I was a troll trying to avoid a ban by creating a new account. Of course, your situation is different than mine, but here are a few tips. Stay civil, be understanding of their point of view, and respond back to them kindly on your point of view. I hope this helps! Toad64 17:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Salem Witch Museum Post

 Courtesy link: Draft:Salem Witch Museum

Hi there to all Administrators of the Wikipedia community. I wished to install the new page that describes another museum that is present in Salem, Massachusetts. Unfortunately my proposed page was declined and I need help here. How can I post this without getting bombarded with declined notifications and contribute properly to the community? SCPdude629 (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: You could add more references that provide significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the museum in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the museum. The two gray boxes at the top of the draft have several links to Wikipedia pages that provide lots of information. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty, thx but unfortunately The page seems out of whack and even I am struggling to fix that, could you help me edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: Draft:Salem Witch Museum looks ok to me. What is the specific issue you are struggling to fix? GoingBatty (talk) 23:19, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty, Apparently everytime I try to submit this it declines despite the accurate info I installed and sourced as mentioned. It makes no sense, is there a sabotage IDK abut here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 04:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: Looking at the history of the draft, you haven't edited it since January 14. Also, adding the @ sign in front of a user name doesn't notify the user - you have to use a template like {{ping}}. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: As for why the article was declined: You might, for example, want to include this source here and this also, as these are about the museum specifically. You may also want to take a look at this, which touches on the history of the building etc. Really, just do a google search (for "news"), and you will find plenty of material. I sadly don't have time to work in this myself. --LordPeterII (talk) 10:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@LordPeterII:, I will see what I can do and as for GoingBatty I appreciate your help in pinging. I will use this as responsibly as possible and only for important matters. I will take a look and use these sources presented to me today but if it declines again, I give up. Also can someone post another notice of the decline so I can resubmit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: I see you added some references to the draft. You could summarize/paraphrase the information in those references to add more sentences to your draft, and then use those references as footnotes. I see you also removed the Submission declined template - please don't do that. Instead, click the blue [Resubmit] button at the bottom left of the template when you're ready for the draft to be reviewed again. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I removed it cause I thought it would intervene in the profile's coding but now I know not to, sorry. Also I have no clue what to do what footnotes and how to add them despite my previous experiences. How can I fix my problem to resubmit it and how can I repair the references properly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: See Help:Footnotes, and follow the example used in the one footnote already in the draft. GoingBatty (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty:, I'll try but I feel lost still, I need to resubmit this before it's permanently erased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SCPdude629 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@SCPdude629: There's no rush - you have six months to work on it before it's erased. Also the ping template doesn't work it you don't sign your posts. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Declaration

I just added a declaration on the top of my contribution. Is it sufficient to satisfy the Wikipedia and Wikimedia requirements? Ggae1885 (talk) 19:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Ggae1885 Right idea, sort of, but wrong place. Your description of your relationship to the subject of Draft:Rita Asfour belongs on your User page and/or on the Talk page of the draft, but not at the draft itself. Please move your NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE accordingly. David notMD (talk) 20:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I followed your instructions and added my notice to both my user and talk pages. Is this okay? If not, what else do I have to do? Is what I am typing right now the proper way to communicate with you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggae1885 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Ggae1885, your communication method is fine (we're loose here), and it's now better. However there are some errs. You stated that "All the material I will publish in this article is owned by me", which per the policy WP:OWN is contradictory to our spirit. You should know that all content (yes, even your replies here) on Wikipedia are licensed under Creative Commons. If you are ready to publish content from the website here, you must state in the website "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply", so that admins on Wikimedia Commons can have an easier time. You can remove the fourth and sixth line in the notice. GeraldWL 03:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ggae1885: Since you asked: Please sign your messages on discussion (talk) pages by adding a space and four tildes to the end of the last line of your message, like this:

This is the last line of the message. ~~~~

The four tildes will be automatically converted to a signature that contains your linked username and a timestamp, which helps readers understand who said what.. Thanks! —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 14:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Where to report bugs?

I have come across a couple of bugs in templates.

• I have used the template {{User lives in|England}} in my user page where it forms part of a table. In order to get the table to display correctly, I had to add </td><td> after the template to start a new cell, instead of just putting ||. This still happens when I remove the England parameter (and live on Planet Earth). It does not occur for any of the other four userboxes I currently use. I assume this is a bug in the template, but I have no knowledge of template programming and the source code is very discouraging.
• @Ira Leviton kindly corrected the punctuation in three {{cite book}} entries on a page I created, where a stray comma had been left after the publisher's address. As far as I remember, all three were created by using the cite book template, entering the ISBN, and accepting whatever it returned. Obviously, in future I shall keep an eye on the punctuation that it leaves lying around. I am wondering, though, if this is a problem with the cite book template, or with the Wikidata content on which (I assume) it relies?

I left a note on Template talk:User lives in and on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Userboxes about the first error. I'm at a loss about reporting the second error. Is there somewhere I could/should report this sort of problem?

Verbarson (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Verbarson as far as I know "cite book" content comes from the worldcat.org database. The technical village pump is a good place to discuss such issues. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Roger. And it has pages of instructions on how to report a bug! --Verbarson (talk) 20:14, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Reference Type and Reference Quotes

I've noticed that when I use the visual editor's automatic citation feature it often chooses "cite website" over "cite news". I almost exclusively use references found by searching Google News and was wondering if the automatic citations are wrong or whether Google News sources are just not always considered news by Wikipedia.

I was also wondering what the proper usage of the "quote" field is when making citations. I assume quotes are necessary most of the time so when is it appropriate to use and if I have a source being referenced in multiple places and a quote isn't relevant to both should I make a separate reference? Also it says something about including punctuation and I was wondering whether this meant that quotes should always include full sentences. Additionally, how big or small of a quote is acceptable? And do standard quotation rules regarding changes to the quotations apply (i.e. using ... to omit content and using [example] to add content)? TipsyElephant (talk) 20:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant, my understanding of Cite news/doc is that the distinction between Cite web and Cite news would be of no importance (and indeed of no consequence whatever) for Google News (whereas it would be if, say, you were citing the NYHT via microfiche). Quotations aren't necessary most of the time, but they can of course be helpful. "Featured articles" have been subjected to the greatest amount of effort and criticism (some of it beneficial), so you might look through the list of these to find articles about subjects similar to your own, and examine how quotations have been dealt with there. (If it matters: I never use the visual editor.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:15, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Please help - draft is ready to be moved onto Wikipedia

Re: Draft: Nicholas Jennings

Hi. I have completed the draft for an article on Author Nicholas Jennings and wish to move it to the main Wikipedia page. I believe it is currently in my Sandbox. How do I accomplish this?

Thanks for any assistance. Octopus69 (talk) 21:06, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Octopus69, welcome to the Teahouse, I did move your draft into the Mainspace as requested. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you CommanderWaterford Octopus69

This doesn't look remotely ready for mainspace, what happened to submitting for review? Theroadislong (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like it's been moved to draftspace. The use of the image in the infobox is dubious, as I don't think whoever shot the video released it under appropriate licences for use on Wikipedia, and as far as I'm aware YouTube doesn't do that either. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there was some confusion because the author itself moved the draft also into a namespace Wikipedia: and I thought there was consense of the author and the reviewer of moving it into mainspace but sure it is not ready for it in its current state. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Sent to Draft:Nicholas Jennings. David notMD (talk) 21:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Question for title

I am currently creating a new article for a visual novel called WorldEnd Syndrome. There is some confusion about its title as the publishers website refers to the game as World End Syndrome but the actual software of the game is titled WorldEnd Syndrome. My question is How could I resolve this confusion?

P.S. Thank you for answering my question as I am still rather new to editing/creating on Wikipedia Vessel of Domination (talk) 21:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Vessel of Domination Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Articles are typically titled with whatever the most commonly used name for a topic is, as used by independent reliable sources(which is what all articles summarize). If most independent sources use one title or the other(with the space or without), you should go with that. If it's unclear from independent sources, I personally might default to what the publisher itself calls the novel. 331dot (talk) 22:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Is my draft encyclopedic enough to get published?

Hello, I recently came across Tex Earnhardt article and noticed that the company he built that got him to prominence does not have an article so I decided to start writing one. Here is the draft I recently submitted for review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Earnhardt_Auto_Center . Please do let me know if this is an acceptable article for publishing or not. I used most of the references from Tex Earnhardt. Thank you very much. AlikotoSam (talk) 22:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

AlikotoSam Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. In looking at your draft, I'm not sure that you have established that the company merits a separate article from that of its founder. For the company to merit an article, there must be independent reliable sources about the company itself, not just its founder, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. 331dot (talk) 22:17, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your quick response. Yes there are independent sources on the company itself which have also been used on the founder's page. And since these sources were not flagged, i thought they would be equally good for the company's as well. Thank you.--AlikotoSam (talk) 22:21, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@AlikotoSam: I'm going to have to agree with 331dot. After doing a quick Google search, I'm not seeing much coverage of the company in independent third party sources. You'd be better off creating a redirect to Tex Earnhardt#Earnhardt Auto Centers, and merging any substantial info there. You can also consider putting the infobox in that section if you wanted to. If eventually there was enough coverage to demonstrate notability, you could then do a content fork and turn the section back into a standalone article on the redirect page. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:35, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

TimTempleton thank you very much for your input. I do not have a lot of experience with what you have suggested. I think I would need help getting that done. thank you very much.--AlikotoSam (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@AlikotoSam: I just created a redirect for Earnhardt Auto Centers. I initially also put the infobox in the article but then deleted it. It was unnecessary - all the info that is in the infobox is already in the company's short section in that Tex Earnhardt article. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:50, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

TimTempleton thank you very much for this. Hopefully an article gets created for the company some day.--AlikotoSam (talk) 22:56, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Saving Incomplete Drafts?

I mentioned earlier that I'm currently creating a new article however I will not be able to finish mu article in one sitting how do I go about saving the incomplete draft.

P.S. Thank you for your time. Vessel of Domination (talk) 22:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: you can build it in your sandbox until you are ready to move it to draftspace. You access the sandbox by clicking on the sandbox link on the top menu. Save frequently. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

And/or you can save it to a text file on your computer. -- Hoary (talk) 22:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

And/or start it in draftspace. Reviewers won't look at it until you append {{subst:submit}} to it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Picture upload?

can I upload the box art of a video game on wikipedia commons? Vessel of Domination (talk) 00:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

No, because Commons does not accept non-free media. A video game's box art is generally going to be under full copyright to the company producing or publishing the game. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 00:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Image upload?

FYI

 – Merging with above. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

On all video game pages there is a box art picture in the template. How do I add a picture of a box art?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 00:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry I was not being clear my question is for example on the legend of zelda: breath of the wild page there is a box art in the template for the article I'm making i need to add a box art image not currently on wikipedia how would I add a box art to the template like other game pages?

Thank you for your patience — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vessel of Domination (talk • contribs) 00:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Box art can be used on Wikipedia under fair use, but the files would have to be hosted on Wikipedia instead of Commons. There's more information in the link I provided, but a big portion of it is making sure the proposed image satisfies the 10 free use criteria, such as using low-resolution images under the criterion "Minimal usage". Other, more savvy editors can provide more detailed guidance. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: You can use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard, which will guide you through the fair use questions. GoingBatty (talk) 00:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Vessel of Domination. Do you want to upload the box art to use in an article that already exists on Wikipedia or to use in a draft for an potential article that you're hoping some day will exist on Wikipedia. As Tenryuu posted above, Wikipedia does allow certian types of copyrighted content (e.g video game box cover art) to be uploaded and used in article as Wikipedia:Non-free content, but there are lots of restrictions placed upon the way that such files can be used. One of these restrictions is non-free content use criterion #9 which states that non-free content may only be used in the article namespace. So, if you want to upload the file to use in a draft for an article that you're trying to create, you should wait unitl the article has been created before doing so as explained here. On the other hand, if you want to upload the file for use in an already existing article, then it will be easier for someone to help you if you can provide a link to the article or at least its name. The The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild article you mentioned above already has an image being used in the main infobox for primary identification purposes; so, it doesn't seem to need another one. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Next steps?

Was wondering about the next steps about the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Akhil_Maheshwari. Do the writers need to do anything else? Jhuma1971 (talk) 01:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

First, the draft has many, many hyperlinks in the body of the article. Not allowed. Second, the article is way over-Wikilinked, to the point that it looks like a sea of blue. The Biography and Faculty positions sections have no refs. Last, there is far, far too much detail about his research projects. I am aware that you have done hundreds of edits on this draft, but the truth is, is that it is far too long, too detailed. Wikipedia articles are not CVs. The Academic work section should be cut by more than 2/3. The article is supposed to be about him, not the science. David notMD (talk) 01:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Additionally, Jhuma1971, (i) certain aspects of the draft suggest to me that you should read the Plain and simple conflict of interest guide; and (ii) your writing also suggests that "Jhuma1971" is more than one person: is this so? -- Hoary (talk) 02:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jhuma1971. Did you take File:AM 122620b.jpg yourself? You uploaded to Commons as your "own work", but the file's Exif data is suggesting that what you uploaded is actually a scan of a photo or an edited version of a photo, and not the original photo data typically found when a photo is taken with a digital camera. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:00, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Overwhelming

I really want to become a contributor to the Women in Red 2021 initiative. I have been reading through article after article on here trying to figure out how to get started. I have created a profile (I think?) and I feel somewhat confident on how to create an article, but still don't know where to begin. There are so many things to look through for instructions. Do I just pick a name off of one of their lists and began researching that individual? Should I have all of my fact straight before I start writing anything? How would I know when a page is complete enough to ask to be published? How do I know if I'm using the right template? RedWriterGal (talk) 03:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

RedWriterGal, don't be overwhelmed here. First of all, Wikipedia gives you no agenda. This means that it's up to you which article to edit. It's all based on your interests. Wikipedia is also voluntary, so you don't need to work full time, but rather when you have the spare time to edit here.

1. You should reference all your content. See WP:RS.

2. Regarding "How would I know when a page is complete enough to ask to be published?", are you referring to drafts? If so, see WP:DRAFT.

3. Which "template" may I ask?

GeraldWL 03:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thank you! A lot of the speciality profile places like the Women in Red talk about using the right templates, I think to identify that you are with that project. RedWriterGal (talk) 04:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Then you don't need them. They'd be for advertising "Women in Red", and there's no need for advertising. OTOH Women in Red is a praiseworthy enterprise and if it didn't advertise itself then it would have much fewer new recruits. So yes, do add the templates, but only after you've attended to more pressing concerns. As for biographical templates (e.g. the one you see at the top right of Jean Rhys), there's no consensus that articles should have them. In my opinion, people with certain kinds of careers/notability benefit from them; but for the great majority of people, they actually detract from the value of the article. Even if you disagree with me (and clearly the majority of editors here do), you don't have to worry about adding them, because adding them to existing articles that lack them is a chore that a lot of people seem to enjoy. Let them do it (or, better, not do it). Concentrate on being informative, source-based, and readable. -- Hoary (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate the insight!! RedWriterGal (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry too much about "using the right template". Sneaking a peek at {{WIR}} (assuming that's what you're referring to, RedWriterGal), you may want to use a related template with an appended year (e.g., {{WIR 2020}}) on an article. Someone with more experience may be able to find the correct template to use. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Perfect, thank you! RedWriterGal (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to the Teahouse, RedWriterGal, and thanks for joining Women in Red. While I can't speak for any specialised instructions the initiative has, I strongly suggest you start a draft in draftspace; there is a link to the Article Creation Wizard in Your first article that will help you do so. You should have at least three reliable sources so that you can establish the subject's notability. Reviewers will not check the draft until you add {{subst:submit}} to it, and you can work on it there at your leisure. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Good to know, thank you! RedWriterGal (talk) 04:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@RedWriterGal: If you haven't already, complete Wikipedia's tutorial to editing known as the The Wikipedia Adventure. It'll teach you the basics for you to get started. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Should I have all of my facts straight before I start writing anything? Yes and no. Whoever my biographee might be, let's say she was born in 1947, which I know because I read it in the book I borrowed from the library but then had to return and now I can't enter and look at it again. Or, hang on, was it that other book? Or maybe it was 1946? No, I must instead specify my source honestly, confidently and clearly. (And if it's from a book, precisely: not just somewhere within the 250-page book, but instead on page 75.) So the facts that you write, you must get straight. However, you don't need to present a fully rounded picture of the person. It can be very incomplete (as long as it doesn't give a misleading impression). Take my article Jill Freedman, for example. It's mostly about work by her that might have been seen by people interested in photography: photobooks, exhibitions, etc. These would have paid her little or nothing; to make a livelihood, she was working for publishers or other clients. I wrote very little about this, because I knew (and still know) very little. I trust the reader will understand and make allowances for the absence. If in the future some company such as Steidl publishes an omnibus of her work, perhaps it will come with details of her more routine editorial/commercial work, whereupon somebody (me?) will be able to augment the article accordingly. (NB there are limits to such selectiveness: see for example Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:15, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

This was very helpful, Thank you. RedWriterGal (talk) 03:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Notes

Draft question

If a draft is declined is it possible to submit it for review again? Vessel of Domination (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Vessel of Domination, yes. But for it to be accepted, the reason for declination previously must be addressed, and the article must show criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. GeraldWL 05:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vessel of Domination. There's no restriction placed on the number of times a draft can be submitted for review, but as Gerald Waldo Luis points out, you shouldn't keep submitting the same declined version over and over again. If it appears to some administrator that's all you seem to be doing, then not only is the draft likely going to end up deleted, but you might also find yourself being formally warned or even blocked. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Alignment?

How do I align text vertically in a template? For Example

JP: August 30, 2018 US: May 2, 2019

When I save the template it default to horizontal how would I remedy this.

Thank You Vessel of Domination (talk) 06:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: Don't worry about layout, templates, and so on. Instead, concentrate on writing informative, well-referenced text. But:
JP: August 30, 2018
US: May 2, 2019
(If you view the source, you'll understand. With the "visual editor", I have no idea.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Just going to add that the templates {{Unbulleted list}} and {{Bulleted list}} can also be used for something like this and they can be used as part of another template (e.g. an infobox template); you just need to be careful to make sure the syntax is complete and correct. As Hoary points out though, this kind of thing is going to have nothing to do with whether any draft you're working on is ultimately accepted as an article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: If you make a question more specific, e.g. naming a page or template, then we can often give better answers. You created Draft:World End Syndrome after Hoary answered. It uses Template:Infobox video game where the template documentation says to use {{Video game release}}. Your example would be {{Video game release|JP|August 30, 2018|US|May 2, 2019}}. It also adds links to the countries:

• JP: August 30, 2018
• US: May 2, 2019

PrimeHunter (talk) 08:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Captcha

It makes me type a captcha after nearly every edit and it's very annoying. Can you help me please? SanctimonyDuplicityBiting (talk) 08:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi SanctimonyDuplicityBiting, welcome to the Teahouse. Your account becomes autoconfirmed after four days and ten edits. Then you don't have to enter a captcha when you add external links. You could add multiple external links in the same edit until then. The "Show preview" button shows what the page will look like if you save. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter. Outstanding! I am teatotaled by your response. You answered my question and told me how I might circumvent the issue for the time being. You are a top notch Teahouser. Thank you!SanctimonyDuplicityBiting (talk) 09:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

SanctimonyDuplicityBiting, I feel ya. Captchas are stupid. Life is easier without them. GeraldWL 14:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Especially when they rely on recognising street furniture in a foreign country. --ColinFine (talk) 15:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I always fail at recognizing what is considered a "street sign" for them. GeraldWL 15:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Struggling to spot bias

Hi there! I've just submitted my first page to Wikipedia, and someone has kindly reviewed it but noticed a few biases in the opening section. I can't see them myself, so I wondered if anyone had any suggestions of what I need to look out for?

Very green to all this, but the page is still a draft so I don't believe I can share it?

Thanks for any help you can give! Cathywhitebcn (talk) 08:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cathywhitebcn: certainly you can share your draft. It's at Draft:Beth Singler. Maproom (talk) 09:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Maproom: Thanks Maproom! Can you spot any biases in that opening section that I can edit out? Draft:Beth Singler Cathywhitebcn (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Cathywhitebcn: The issue is rather minor I would say. I believe it is primarily the word "our", as that suggests that the reader is included in a group. It's a term used widely in journalism, but not really fit for an encyclopedia, especially in conjunction with "hope and fear" ("... artificial intelligence; our understanding of it as well as our hopes and fears ..."). I would thus suggest rewording the sentences that include "our". Then I would point to this MoS supplemental, but really I feel you have adhered to 95% of this already. --LordPeterII (talk) 10:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I tweaked the lead. You decide if by too much. David notMD (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cathywhitebcn, minor thing: punctuation before ref. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cathywhitebcn correcting ping Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Question: Three books listed, but at two you describe her as "contributor." The refs do not mention her as a co-author or chapter author. For this reason I challenge those mentions. David notMD (talk) 12:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

deletion of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lord_of_Little_Stambridge_Hall

Hi, if it would be possible could this page(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lord_of_Little_Stambridge_Hall) be deleted as the evidence and sources at the present don't amount to be much. many many thanks. EvWills (talk) 09:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello EvWills! I think you should use the WP:Miscellany for deletion process for this. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, i'm tempted to tag this as G7 and ask for salt. As far as I can tell this user is the main contributor, just with perhaps an undeclared alt (previous del request, section 170) and some i.p usage. Is there something I'm missing, I don't do a lot of tagging. Regards, Zindor (talk) 10:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

WP:G7 added by EvWills fits even better, both will probably work. I'm unaware of any WP:SALT need, but that doesn't mean there isn't one. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. It seems it's being added to MfD but as of yet no entry page. Zindor (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Gråbergs Gråa Sång I think I have flagged it up on the MFD now. with regards to the above what is WP:G7 and WP:SALT?. many thanks for all your help EvWills (talk) 11:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

EvWills, the Mfd looks ok to me, I commented there. Well, you could check the links you just included..? ;-) Basically, WP:G7 is what I should have recommended, it's a specific "Delete this page I made" process. Live and learn. It would have saved you a little effort (less to type), but the end-result will hopefully be the same. WP:SALT afaict doesn't apply here, it's when an admin makes it impossible to create an article with a specific title. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Who do I talk to about translations?

I have edited a translation that needed cleanup because it was vandalised, however, I am not sure that it still needs the cleanup translation tag/box at the top anymore. Who do I talk to about this? Shma.altheeb (talk) 10:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Shma.altheeb, thanks for your work and welcome to the Teahouse. I in the meantime removed the translation tag but you could have done it on your own, of course, too. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Major protect is needed

Hi, I recently heard about the coup d'etat in neighboring country Myanmar. Sorry to hear that. But there have been vandalism attacks on the articles of the coup leaders Myint Swe (general) and Min Aung Hlaing with many accounts. Please prevent vandalism attacks ! I'm very tired to revert vandalism edits. VocalIndia (talk) 10:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

And for the interested, there's 2021 Myanmar coup d'état. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia editing

Google Indexing / Page verification Hi hope everyone is well. The wikipedia page for Usman Wazeer was indexed by google and had a knowledge panel but now it has been removed for some reason and also that i have cited the page for Usman Wazeer yet it still has not been verified. I am new to editing so please could someone guide me please. THANK YOU. AhmadKhan518 (talk) 11:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately I do not understand your request. (For example, what is a "knowledge panel"?) Google will index pages according to its own inscrutable algorithms; we can do little to influence this. Meanwhile, the article Usman Wazeer is problematic: entire paragraphs have no references, meaning that the reader has no reason to trust these paragraphs. I suggest that you add reliable sources to this article instead of worrying about Google. -- Hoary (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoary, Google knowledge panel is something like this. But adding to your answer, we really can't help with this request. It has no connection with Wikipedia. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 13:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello AhmadKhan518, please see WP:PAID, WP:COI. You must disclose your relationship with the subject on your userpage. This diff's edit summary makes me concerned about COI/paid. Also, is more than one person using this account? Pahunkat (talk) 14:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

"My Lists" Tab.

On my mobile devices I have a "My Lists" tab with which I have compiled lists of articles that I can refer back to. The mobile devices sync with each other so the lists are kept up to date. I can find no sign of this feature on the PC version (Windows 10). My question, of course, is whether this feature is available on the PC? Bluemonk9a (talk) 12:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Bluemonk9a. As far as I know it's not available in the same way it is in the mobile app. According to this page there's a browser plugin for desktop that allows pages to be added to the lists, but seemingly not accessed from desktop. More info here. Zindor (talk) 12:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Ishaan bommakanti 6548

 Ishaan bommakanti 6548 (talk) 13:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Ishaan bommakanti 6548. Do you have a question? -- Hoary (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

How to get my first wikipedia Page published

I was asked to take up to get our product's page to be published on the wikipedia. Can you let me know what are the aspects i need to do inorder to publish my wiki page created and published online.

Regards, Praveen Circulus1 (talk) 13:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it's clear that you have a conflict of interest. Simply, don't attempt to create any such page (or "article", as it's usually called). Please read this. -- Hoary (talk) 13:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Circulus1, a few things;

1. You must disclose your relationship with the company on your userpage immediately, see WP:PAID and WP:COI
2. We have articles, not wiki pages. Articles can be edited by anyone at any time - you will not own the page
3. Your company and its products will almost certainly not meet the notability criteria that we have for articles. See WP:GNG, WP:NCORP. If a subject is determined not to meet the notability guidelines I have mentioned, its article will be deleted.
4. The use of Wikipedia for advertising and/or promotion is forbidden

Before you even think of starting a page, see the above. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 13:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Commonwealth of Dominica

The Commonwealth of Dominica is a former "realm" of Queen Elizabeth II and is not mentioned as such 98.13.234.248 (talk) 14:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I presume this is about our article Dominica, which has a considerable amount about the history of the island. If you think there is something missing, you are welcome to edit the article, or if you are not sure how to, to post on its talk page Talk:Domenica. Remember that all information should be sourced to a reliable published source. --ColinFine (talk) 15:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Website Change, Editing to a Wikipedia Page

The website for author and broadcaster Walter Harris (1925-2019) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Harris_(author) has been moved from a .co.uk domain name to a Wordpress.com free hosting, https://walterharrisauthorandbroadcaster.wordpress.com The content is exactly the same as the previous website. It is a static archive of the individual's oeuvre, not a blog. When I attempted to update the details on the Wikipedia page, I received a warning that the free Wordpress.com site is flagged as potentially not allowed. May I request an exception in this case, as this is not a blog or a self-promoting free site, but an official archive of a deceased author and broadcaster who mixed with many well-known very famous individuals. If I may add the new website address, how do I request the exception, so this, and my future editing contributions are not curtailed? Thank you in advance. Sea Pipit (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Your edit to Walter Harris (author) appears to have worked, Sea Pipit. However, unless somebody finds and adds the independent sources about him that are required to establish notability, the article is likely to get deleted. --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I am new to Teahouse so I hope this reply reaches you ColinFine and many thanks for your reply. The page is showing the obsolete .co.uk website as I didn't want to update it to the wordpress one without asking for advice, hence my question. I wish to add the Obituary for Walter Harris, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/07/02/walter-harris-author-broadcaster-interviewed-celebrities-bbc/ to help with notability yet I am unsure how to edit for additional references. It is important not to lose this page. Walter Harris interviewed many, many people, famous, infamous and fashionable names, worked for the BBC and CBC and I am keen to add supporting links and references to prevent the page being deleted in error. Any advice hugely appreciated. Apologies in advance for any incorrect use of TeaHouse. I wasn't sure where to enquire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sea Pipit (talk • contribs) 15:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Sea Pipit: You could add the obituary in an External links section or use it as a reference. I suggest you post the URL and your suggestions to the article talk page: Talk:Walter Harris (author), so you can work with other interested Wikipedians to improve the article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine and @GoingBatty thank you both for your help. I will have to explore how to use the talk page for Walter Harris. It's a learning curve for me (isn't everything) so I hope I can submit stuff quickly so Walter's page is not deleted. His interviews are a treasure trove, being an eclectic mix (Noel Coward, Gerald Durrell, Stephen Ward just before the Profumo Affair, the list is too great to list here...)Sea Pipit (talk) 19:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sea Pipit (talk • contribs) 18:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

What to do when another user receives an incorrect vandalism warning?

Hi, I recently responded to an edit request from an IP user frustrated their good faith (and correct) edit was reverted, with a vandalism warning on his talk page for his troubles. I know these kinds of incorrect warnings can be very frustrating and discouraging for new users (I've gotten a similar incorrect warning, see the discussion here), so I was wondering if there's anything that can be done (or I can do) to remove or at least help remedy these warnings when I see them? Thanks. Volteer1 (talk) 15:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Volteer1: There is no 100% correct procedure for this, but it is usally a good Idea to start a discussion with the reverting editor (in this case @Paul Vaurie:) and make them aware thereof. Other than that, what is usally done is to remove or strike the warning, and (in this case notify the reverted editor to use edit summaries) Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I read the edit backwards! I thought he changed it to Bayern. Sorry about that. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: All good! Don't worry about it :) Volteer1 (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Question by Tektramp

Hello. I created an article with credible secondary sources, such as Flying Magazine, Air Progress, NASA online government reports, and published speed records, but the subject of the Article was deemed not "Notable" enough. The subject's record breaking aircraft has it's own Wiki page that has been up for years created by other other authors, but the subject is denied a separate article even when there is significant secondary coverage. I'm new to Wikipedia and I have no idea what's going on. Thank you--Tektramp (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Tektramp (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:August Thomas Bellanca David notMD (talk) 15:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Tektramp: It seems to me that Bellanca is only known for his involvment with the Skyrocket II. In this case, Bellanca should be mentioned at Bellanca Skyrocket II instead of creating a separate article. His patents aside from the Skyrocket II are not covered in secondary sources and don't contribute to notability. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 15:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you to David notMD, and Ganbaruby!. I hope this is how to reply to answers in Teahouse. If not please let me know what I'm doing wrong.Tektramp (talk) 19:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

edit/elaborate on references and citations

Is there a way to edit/elaborate on citations that are already in place. If so, how?

 Fredlin82! (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fredlin82: Yup! In most cases VisualEditor will let you click on that reference and add/change the parameters. Alternatively, you can go into edit source and hunt down that reference using Ctrl + F. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 15:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

User name change

Can you tell me how to change your user name? Thank you PlanetPllc (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

PlanetPllc You may make a request at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Protect a page

How to protect an article page? AGNIHOTHRI123 (talk) 16:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

AGNIHOTHRI123 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may request the protection of an article at WP:RFPP. Articles are only protected for certain reasons, like vandalism, edit warring, or other disruption. They aren't protected merely to keep others from editing them. 331dot (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

world paper money with pictures and pick's numbers

 71.251.161.240 (talk) 17:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm afraid you will need to clarify your question further so we can help you :) AdmiralEek (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Written articles

Is there a trusted list of more experienced wiki editors that can create a page I can refer 501c3 and clients too? PlanetPllc (talk) 17:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

PlanetPllc You may make a request at Requested Articles, but the backlog there is severe and it may be a long time, if ever, before it is acted on. Please understand that Wikipedia has no interest in helping your clients, we're just here to write an encyclopedia of human knowledge. 331dot (talk) 17:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I fully understand that and am in agreement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlanetPllc (talk • contribs) 17:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I suggest you look at COMPORG as well, PlanetPllc. --ColinFine (talk) 17:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@PlanetPllc: It sounds like you might want to consider one of the options at WP:OUT or other web design and hosting service. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@PlanetAya2:(Re-ping renamed user) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Help with images and copyright

Background

I am the daughter of an artist who passed away in 1999. During the pandemic I went through a large collection of information about him and digitized it. Both of my parents have passed away so my sister and I have the copyright for his artwork. I signed up to be a Wikipedia contributor/editor and have created a page about my father in my sandbox. I have a COI statement as well. I have photographs of my father's artwork that I would like to include in a Gallery section of his Wikipedia page. Some photographs are taken by me or my parents and some by museums.

Questions

For pictures taken by me/my parents: should I include copyright information in the metadata "Roswell Weidner Estate"? How will this affect the media in WikiMedia Commons? For pictures taken by institutions with copyright information in the metadata: I am working with the institutions to get their permission to post their images or should they post their images in WikiMedia Commons Categories for their institution? One of the institutions I am talking with already has a large number of items in a WikiMedia Category: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Paintings_in_the_Pennsylvania_Academy_of_the_Fine_Arts Is there a similar forum in WikiMedia Commons that I should address these questions to? Thank you. ArtLover113 (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@ArtLover113: When you post artwork, or images, on Wikipedia, it must be freely licensed. That means in short: it must be free for re-use, by anyone, for any reason, as long as they provide attribution. That includes to make money. That doesn't mean you can't also make money off it, but that anyone else can too. That's why we have so few images of some things on Wikipedia, because folks are unwilling to release their photos in that way. However, if you fully understand the implications of uploaded images, we would love to have them. Let me know if you need clarification on how free licenses work here. AdmiralEek (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

If you need more detailed guidance about issues of upload to Commons, there is a "Help desk similar to the one here". that you could use. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

ArtLover113, User:ArtLover113/sandbox is a very well-done draft; nice work! When you're finished working on it, feel free to give me a ping (use {{Ping|Sdkb}}) and I'll be happy to move it to mainspace for you. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Links in a Template?

First off I want to apologize needing to ask this many questions because I do not know anything about coding. In a prior question I asked how to align vertically well I figured that out now I would like to know how you apply links to something like this US: May 2, 2019

Nevermind I resolved it

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 18:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

What to do when someone creates new accounts to remove sourced info from an article?

Please look at Chad Johnson (television personality). There is an account, DaddySaurus, that is removing sourced info. There is another brand-new account, AnnaliseSIDEMAN, that is also removing the same sourced info, and apparently is a reference to both my username, and the woman that was involved in the abuse with Chad Johnson. I don't know how to proceed. The DaddySaurus account has also made legal threats, in their edit summaries, and their talk page. Please help. This is more than I know how to handle. Wes sideman (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC) Wes sideman (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

User:DaddySaurus indefinitely blocked for making a legal threat. The account AnnaliseSIDEMAN may be a sockpuppet of DaddySaurus, so will need to be watched if any new content deletion edits show up at Chad Johnson. The only funny part about this brou-ha-ha is that back in October, DaddySaurus was adding unreferenced content about Chad doing porn to a Bachelorette article, so seemed odd that four months later was insisting on removing the same content from an article about Chad. David notMD (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Seems to me there's a non-zero chance that the account is actually THE Chad Johnson, and he was promoting his still-nascent porn career when it started. If my guess is correct, it stands to reason that he may regret that decision and is now trying to scrub it from Wikipedia, along with the arrest info. Thank you for the help on this. Wes sideman (talk) 19:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Crediting Question?

This question is a bit confusing but for the page I am making I want to credit the author in the template however having watched the credits for the game about six times now there is no one credited with writer. Instead the game has this Authored by Arc System works and TOYBOX or later in the credits it says scenario by Tomio Kanazawa. I'm at a loss on which I should use or should I not put Writer in the Template at all?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 18:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Vessel of Domination, indeed somewhat confusing ;-) but if you are not sure about the correct entry for the Inbox field just leave it empty. Hope that helps. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing and referencing

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia. I have noticed something today. Why are editors meticulous about 'sourcing and referencing' on some pages, especially 'secondary sources' if a page is to be published, but are less so on others? For example, I noticed a Wikipedia Biography entry today which was full of unsourced and unreferenced assertions. It simply came across as one person's opinion of another. Mahler johnson (talk) 19:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mahler johnson: Simply, there are lots of volunteers and some are good at adding references and others don't. RudolfRed (talk) 20:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

In addition, without knowing precisely what pages you are talking about, it will be difficult to answer your question. Ruslik_Zero 20:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

So not having referenced assertions does not necessarily invalidate assertions on the page and stop the page being published for public viewing? I thought all material on pages had to be be reliably sourced and referenced

(e/c) Hi Mahler johnson. There are a variety of reasons for this, but I would say the main reasons are i) we are a volunteer project, with each editor editing by his or her own light; ii) Wikipedia has no central authority dispatching editors to apply the same set of standards to each article and page; iii) we have a variety of different gatekeeper functions, e.g., new pages patrol, and articles for creation, etc.; all of which iv) have evolved over time, and in that same vein; v) our standard have tightened over the years. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF for a treatment of some involved principles. In summary of that page, the fact other articles exist that might appear to be in a similar state to a draft that was declined or rejected has little to no precedential value – because (for the reasons I've attempted to list) we have plenty of articles that don't currently meet our standards because they escaped review, were reviewed poorly, were reviewed in an earlier era under different standards, and so forth. all this is to say, when you come across a page that looks like the page you drafted that was rejected or deleted, it probably means that it needs to be edited to meet our standards or deleted, which just hasn't happened yet. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ruslik_Zero For example, Cyril Smith (Marxist). How do I get the small vertical line (for example between RudolfRed|RudolfRed) on my computer keyboard? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 20:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Cyril Smith (Marxist) already tagged for having sections with no references. Ideally, people will add references! In answer to your second question, the vertical line should be on the key above the Enter key. David notMD (talk) 20:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Mahler johnson, without knowing what kind of keyboard layout you're using, I can't say for certain, but if it's the US keyboard layout, it is ⇧ Shift+\ as David notMD pointed out. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

On my keyboard, the vertical line key is with ` and ¬ on the same key to the left of the number 1 and ! key. But do not how to produce it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 20:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

If pressing ⇧ Shift doesn't create it, you may have to switch to a different keyboard layout (software) on your computer, which is unfortunately out of my realm of expertise. You may have to experiment with different layouts before finding the right one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mahler johnson:. The character ¦ which is on the same key as ` and ¬ is NOT the "pipe" character that is used in many places within Wikipedia. In the event that you did need it, it would be obtained by using AltGr together with the key to the left of your number 1 and ! key. On most keyboards, the correct pipe character | is ⇧ Shift+\ as already mentioned. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@David notMD : Could you post your comments on this Teahouse page instead of on my talk page so it is all kept together and everybody can view the continuity of the discussion in one single block. You have written on my talk page : — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 20:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

David notMD - You wrote...'Naming poorly referenced existing articles as examples in an attempt to justify accepting a new article can lead to the example articles being considered for deletion.'Mahler johnson (talk) 21:26, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

'David notMD : I was asked to name the article which I viewed today by Ruslik_Zero. I simply mentioned it because it seems to me that people new to Wikipedia (as Iam) would like to see a more rigorous consistency in the application of criteria and paradigms. If people are having new articles 'declined' or 'rejected' then they are inevitably going to compare declined or rejected articles with those which are established for public viewing. I do not want any article deleted if it adds to our sum of knowledge. As a newcomer to Wikipedia, I was not aware of your assertion on deletion of articles. However, it seems rather harsh, almost tyrannical, that such an action should be taken when both new and existing pages are open to modification in terms of reliable primary and secondary referencing and sourcing.' Mahler johnson (talk) 21:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Anyway, this is more or less resolved after studying post (and references in it) by Fuhghettaboutit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahler johnson (talk • contribs) 21:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

FYI: There is a distinction between Declined (not good enough) and Rejected (never going to be good enough). David notMD (talk) 22:22, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

My conflict of interest at the Old Royal Naval College as i need to replace the whole text about this charity

I am a volunteer at the Old Royal Naval College (it is a charity). I have agreed to help this charity and update the content of their Wikipedia page, but I am a little bit confused about my declaration of the conflict of interest.

Where do I need to put a 'sign' that there is a conflict of interest when I log in?

I have found this line; please see below. What do I need to do with it? [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) ORNC-W2020 (talk) 19:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Please advise. Thank you for your help. ORNC-W2020 (talk) 19:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

ORNC-W2020 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may make the conflict of interest declaration on your user page (User:ORNC-W2020) and you should on the article talk page of the charity's article(it's an article, not a mere "page"). The article talk page is where you should make formal edit requests(click for instructions), detailing changes you feel are needed, preferably sourced to independent reliable sources, as that is primarily what Wikipedia articles summarize.

Please understand that the article is about the charity; it does not belong to the charity and its has no special rights to the article- but your input is welcome. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I will add that while there are templates you can use, it's enough to just make a simple statement. Don't necessarily worry about the formatting yet. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Editing articles for individuals who have transitioned.

 Courtesy link: Catherine Pancake

Hi, I recently edited the article for Catherine Pancake, who now goes by the name Chet and uses they/them pronouns. The changes were immediately reverted because it "did not appear constructive." I provided external sources, so I'm unsure where I went wrong. Any advice would be appreciated; here is the reversion message as it appears in Talk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Uterodactyl Uterodactyl (talk) 20:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Wtmitchell: You did the reversion, what is your take on this? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Uterodactyl, thanks for bringing this to our attention. It looks like Wtmitchell mistakenly thought your edit was vandalism. I've gone ahead and restored it and moved the page, in accordance with our guidance on gender identity at MOS:IDENTITY. I confirmed that Chet now goes by that name here. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(e/c) Hey Uterodactyl This has already been "re-reverted", i.e., the user who reverted your edits was reverted in turn, and your changes are back, citing MOS:IDENTITY in the edit summary. I'd further note that the user who reverted you was advised in the edit summary by the re-reverting user to "please be more cautious in your Huggle patrolling". I don't know if that regarded the fact that the edit belonged, or the fact that the reversion was done using a rollback, or both, but I'd not that you should never have been reverted using that method of reversion, which is only for edits that are clearly vandalism; this can have a chilling effect when done improperly for good faith edits, even where they should be reverted but are not patently vandalism, sometimes driving away good editors. Just a mistake here I think. You have to understand that we get so many bad edits throughout one day... Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I took another look at this, and it looks like an error on my part. Sdkb, thanks for fixing the problem I introduced and for the deserved criticism. I encountered this, as I recall, among lots of vandalism which looked to have been done by malicious schoolchildren who has been turned loose on Wikipedia with little preparation and no supervisioon. That's an explanation of how I think this happened, and I understand that an explanation does not serve as an excuse. Mea culpa. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much, all! I appreciate the explanation and the re-reversion both. Best, Uterodactyl (talk) 01:39, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Uterodactyl: You may want to review the categories, and remove/revise any that do not apply. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding quotes to sources

It's the best when editors include the 'quote=' tag in the reference so when you hover over the ref-link you can see the exact quote from the source. What is the best practice when a single source contains lots of quotable content and is used in multiple places in a Wikipedia article? I don't want to include all the quotes together because it will just create a wall of text in the quote spot and ruin the original purpose. Should I create multiple reference tags to the same source just so I can have focused quotes near my content? Or is that bad because we want a source to share all references on the page? Or perhaps if a source is full of prolific quotes I should just skip using the 'quote=' tag all together in those cases? What says the TeaHouse? JaredHWood💬 20:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

This looks like a good question for Wikipedia talk:Citing sources. It may have already been asked in the archives. If it hasn't been asked yet there and you don't get a response here by the time this question is archived, ask over there. If you DO see the answer in the archives over here, reply in this thread with a link to the answer so the conversation can be closed out. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jared.h.wood. Adding a quote to each reference is not considered a best practice on Wikipedia. See the guidelines at WP:FOOTQUOTE for recommendations. You can do it, but be very careful about how much you quote from a given source to stay within copyright restrictions. You will need to do it with separate references. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks StarryGrandma. That is just what I needed. JaredHWood💬 22:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Jared.h.wood, if you use shortened footnotes you can have the second reference use a shorter form:

First statement. Second statement.

References

You can do almost the same thing without using citation templates. Hope this helps. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again. Even better. This will help me tremendously. I have a link to a very densely worded multipage pdf and giving the page number at different locations in the article will greatly help other editors verify the content. WP:SRF added to my list of favorite things. JaredHWood💬 23:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Help finding a legit citation

I am trying to create an article for the label Deanwell Global Music. They are established and distributed worldwide, but I'm not able to find appropriate citations about their history outside of mentions in articles by some of the artists on the label, their website, and discogs (which isn't an allowable source). If you do a web search you will find tons of references from sites selling their releases. AtlantaMusic2021 (talk) 21:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi AtlantaMusic2021. I just ran a bunch of (non-Google web) searches and was not able to find a single useful source. For that reason I am betting this company is simply not notable enough for a stand-alone article. Sometimes the sources needed simply don't exist. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Fuhghettaboutit I don't really understand what would be considered notable "enough" in this instance. The label is distributed and associated with an already documented distributor Light In The Attic Records and has worked with notable bands that are documented on Wikipedia (Asylum Party and Little Nemo (band). I see articles for similar labels that don't seem to have any citations whatsoever. Please give me some guidance because often the history of a label or band isn't told by anything but self documentation and through community supported forums such as Discogs. I feel like references in articles about the releases would be enough in this case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtlantaMusic2021 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@AtlantaMusic2021: Not all Wikipedia articles are perfect - see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. GoingBatty (talk) 22:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Sigh. Ok I get it. But I am coming here for help and was hoping maybe someone could assist me in finding an appropriate source. — Preceding --AtlantaMusic2021 (talk) 22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC) comment added by AtlantaMusic2021 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@AtlantaMusic2021: I've also gave it a try, but I also didn't find any sources that were usable. Sometimes sources just don't exist. You might also want to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:03, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby - Thanks for looking. It's not an article about myself, it's just a label I'm a fan of and feel it is significant because of their role in the Cold wave (music) revival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtlantaMusic2021 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Refined search results.

If I wanted to narrow my search results to find specific articles about Linux distributions that are a specific class, like stub class or start class articles only, would it be better to search by using Wikipedia categories, or by using the pet scan at wmflabs, and what is the technical procedure for using your favored search method? Huggums537 (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Huggums537: One way would be to look at the subcategories of Category:Linux articles by quality, which are populated by {{WikiProject Linux}}. GoingBatty (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

creating an article about my self with almost no sources

I want to create an article about myself but there are little to none sources I can use because ahah i'm not the most well known person. Also even if I did have sources is there a format I can use to make putting an article look nice Daichi Hara (talk) 22:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@Daichi Hara: You should not try to do this. If there are no sources about you, then you are not notable and that is a requirement for any article, additionally it is strongly discouraged to try and write about yourself. See WP:AUTO RudolfRed (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: oh dang, thank you, please don't double check on me later if i've made articles, i will probably still try to make one about myself :)Daichi Hara (talk) 22:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Daichi Hara, if you try and do so, there's a really good chance it'll be deleted. Worst case scenario would end in you being blocked if you persist in doing so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:16, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Daichi Hara, You can write about yourself on your user page. That is not in the Wikipedia main article domain and you can make it be what ever you want. Please be careful about giving too much private information. Everyone can see what you create. Your user page is here. You won't get in trouble for writing about yourself there. JaredHWood💬 22:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

So long as it doesn't masquerade as an article or used for other purposes like promotion, yes, it'll be fine. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I need help with my article

I need help writing my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:New_Rockstars. TonyStank123456789 (talk) 23:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

@TonyStank123456789: I suggest using less YouTube references from the New Rockstars, and more references from independent reliable sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Link in Template?

For my article I'm writing I need to add links to Playstation 4 and Nintendo Switch in the template how would I do this?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 00:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Which template are you trying to use? RudolfRed (talk) 00:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox video game is the template I'm creating a article from scratch — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vessel of Domination (talk • contribs) 00:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Like this: | platforms = [[PlayStation 4]], [[Nintendo Switch]] Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Looks like you have gotten started at Draft:World End Syndrome. I recommend getting references installed as you go. The potential problem is that you will be writing content that you know to be true, but looking for references later. Also, Japanese refs are OK, but for an article in English Wikipedia, will be useful to have some English refs. David notMD (talk) 07:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Vessel of Domination. I'm afraid that you're doing what many people do when they start out creating an article for the first time, and doing the easy bits before the important bits. It's like building a house and saying, "Right, let's paint the windows, and make the curtains, and build the water feature in the garden, and then we'll start digging to find out whether the ground is safe to build on here". Creating an article starts by finding the independent reliable published sources that you're going to build the article on, because if you can't find them then your house will fall down (the article will never be accepted) and all the work you've put in will be wasted. --ColinFine (talk) 11:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Is it appropriate to base the setup of my article on a featured article?

Is it appropriate to base the setup of my article on a featured article?

Thank you for your time Vessel of Domination (talk) 01:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Sounds like a great idea to base the setup of your draft on a featured article of the same genre. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

It isn't the same genre because I could not find a featured article that was a visual novel with minimal gameplay for the most part in my game you are simply reading

P.S. the article I was Basing mine off is The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time

Thank you for your patience😄 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vessel of Domination (talk • contribs) 01:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Vessel of Domination: Basing your draft on a video game article is a good idea, but don't base it on a featured article about a tree or a person. I'm concerned that you used the phrase "my game". If you are an employee of the company or a creator of the game or have some other conflict of interest, then you should declare that on your user page. GoingBatty (talk) 02:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I am so sorry! I did not mean it that way what I meant was that I am the only person working on the article. I have no relation to any of the companies involved in creating or producing World End Syndrome. That was entirely my fault for wording it that way and I will try to be more careful with how type things from now on.

P.S. Thank you so much for the advice and I apologize for any confusion I caused with what I typed

@Vessel of Domination: You may want to take a look at Remember 11: The Age of Infinity, which is a good article about a visual novel for ideas. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Unable to view an archived Talk page

I was trying to view a past discussion in this archived Talk page but only the first item in the massive list of items is viewable. I tried Archive 105 and Archive 107 and both looked fine, just the Archive 106 in question seems to have issue. I tried different browsers and got the same result. Luminoxius (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Luminoxius: They were hidden in the collapsed sections, which weren't properly formatted. I should've fixed it. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 02:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: You did fix it! Thanks! --Luminoxius (talk) 02:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Locking Wiki Page

How do you lock a page? Someone is writing misinformation and is claiming the information that people in the organization I am involved with have spent hours perfecting is false which is untrue. 96.248.41.215 (talk) 02:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You can make a request at WP:RFPP if there is a problem such as ongoing vandalism. RudolfRed (talk) 02:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

96.248.41.215 Does people in the organization I am involved with have spent hours perfecting is false which is untrue imply that you have a potential conflict of interest in this article? If so, please review our policies on conflict of interest editing. BrxBrx(talk)^{(please reply with {{SUBST:re|BrxBrx}})} 05:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@96.248.41.215 To which article are you referring? Here's a link to the COI policies: WP:COI. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Also, IP user, please understand that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. . --ColinFine (talk) 12:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

My submission at Articles for creation: Jakops (January 30)

Hello this is Joanna,

I uploaded "Jakops" on January 30, 2021.

We need help to publish this article, the person Jakops are a Famous Producer in Korea, Japan. We don't surely use to this tool, Wikipedia, but Me and my client will update references soon.

and I want to ask what is the exact mean about declined Submission?

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

and how to solve this problem? What specific materials must be included in order for this article to meet the criteria? Are there any references to match this? or just examples? I saw many of references in Wikipedia, but still don't know how to solve this problem. If there any way to help us to meet then criteria, it might be really helpful using this tool to publish our article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joannaseok (talk • contribs) 02:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

By references, we mean reliable sources like newspapers, news sites, things like that. These sources must be reliable, and blogs/self-promoted links do not count as reliable. If you cannot find any good reliable sources, the subject might not qualify for a Wikipedia article. More specifically, "articles" #5, #6, #7 are not "references", in that they do not cite an actual source. "Articles" #3 and #4 seem to be of the same thing. You need to cite good sources on this subject, and be sure to insert citations on core portions of the article (name, discography). Aside from that, there are also some manual of style issues, and grammatical errors. By "we" and "client", do you mean you are doing this in partnership with someone also? Wikipedia strongly discourages people with a conflict of interest from making articles that they have a bias towards/against. You must inform others of any potential COI's you have. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

More specifically, Joannaseok, if you have a paid relationship, you need to publicly declare that on your user page (that is, which company you work for and for which client's behalf). You may use {{paid}} to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Controversial UBX

Is this UBX okay for Wikipedia? It seems rather controversial, given the CPC's history and the fact that Chinese people normally can't edit Wikipedia. It also indicates a WP:COI for any users of the UBX. Any thoughts? Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 03:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: Yes, it is controversial, that is why it is in User:UBX space. See Wikipedia:Userbox_migration and User:UBX RudolfRed (talk) 04:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Archives

Ahh, now where do I find the archives for this page? Thanks, and just link to the archive box. PhoenixStarlight (talk) 04:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

The most recent archive is here. To search archives, use this Special:Search page. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 04:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@PhoenixStarlight: List of recent archives and a search box are on the top right of the page, just under the table of contents box. RudolfRed (talk) 04:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

What is the policy on broken wikilinks that show up in red

At one point, did a page exist for these names that has since been removed? Are such links supposed to be retained as an encouragement for someone to create a page for them, or should the markup [[]] be removed? UClaudius (talk) 04:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@UClaudius: The page may have been deleted or it may have never existed. If you click the redlink, it will show you if the page was previously deleted and if so, for what reason. If it is a link to an article that may be created someday, then don't delete it. See WP:REDLINK, which says "Only remove red links if Wikipedia should not have an article on the subject [...] " RudolfRed (talk) 04:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, UClaudius. Please do not think of a red link as "broken". Instead, think of it as an invitation to research whether a topic is notable and deserves a Wikipedia article, or a link to an existing article, perhaps one with a slightly different name. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A humble request!

) Greetings! Thanks for inviting me to a knowledge hub like The Tea House.

I exiting to learn from senior editors.

After three months of observation, I decided to join Wikipedia to contribute in my spare time and gain some experience.

As I am a new user I can't edit some unexpected errors. Please consider my request.

My Request is: unfortunately found an article with an error which is not correct at all. Article link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nispal_Singh A WP-BLP category article, please look at the article on notice section someone mentioned him "GADHA". For your kind information, Gadha is apparently slang in India (Hindi Language: Gadha-means donkey).

I observe that the notice is correct, the article not maintained proper citation and regulation but how correct is the word on the warning notice board. I think it was done by some childminded or a non-developed person.

Request to look forward to my request and warn the user who did it. Auramstate (talk) 06:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

This has now been resolved! Thank you! WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 06:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝 for your prompt correction. also, I need to learn how did you do that.

By revert to the last edit or by edit source code? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auramstate (talk • contribs) 07:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Note that I didn't make the edits, someone else did. They likely used a tool to see who wrote it, and then undid the revision that added it in. See the edit history of that page. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 07:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Please don't mind senior WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝), I am new here so asking too many questions to you, hope am not disturbing you. Now I got the solution- how to find the edit history of an article. Thanks with Regards by Auramstate (talk) 07:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

We have a Help article on edit histories, it also has pictures if that's your thing. WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 15:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles With Few Sources

Where does one submit a request for articles to be evaluated due to lack of source material? Here is an example article I found of interest. Thank you, Augu❤Maugu 💕 07:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC))

What do you mean by "evaluated"? You have already tagged Assassination of Park Chung-hee as needing more references. David notMD (talk) 07:54, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You have splattered the article with a great number of "citation needed" templates. They are indeed deserved, though whether that was the best approach is a different matter. The assassination is clearly of encyclopedic significance, and sources do exist in English, let alone in Korean. Therefore the article can and should be improved. At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea, invite people to improve the article. Or indeed start to improve it yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 08:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Article Editing and Referencing

I want to know how to put perfect referencing and citations in an article to fulfil Wikipedia criteria? Noman077 (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Noman077} and welcome to the Teahouse, you can find help with referencing here WP:REFB currently your draft Draft:Resourceinn reads like an advertisement for the business, see WP:SOLUTIONS. Do you have a conflict of interest? Theroadislong (talk) 08:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How do we have someone other that Bidgee review our edits

It appears the user "Bidgee" has a issue with me because I called him out for calling me a lier. Can someone other than this bell end look at the things being edited?

 110.145.12.238 (talk) 10:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse 110.145.12.238 - no surprise that someone has an issue with you if you called him a lier. Anyway, I do not see any contributions with this IP in the last time, perhaps Bidgee can clarify to what you are referring?! CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Also note that personal attacks are prohibited. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

This appears to be a dispute between User:Nedloh1234 and User:Bidgee about images added/reverted at 2019–20 Australian bushfire season. Maybe edits to other articles. Already has been on Talk page of that article, and on each other's Talk pages. Please don't refer to anyone as a "bell end." David notMD (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Problems with historic images

Hi - I have 14 images to add to my otherwise complete article about a professional British sculptor. (It's currently in my Sandbox). Many of the images are from photographs from the 1940s-1990s, legitimately obtained through the artist's family. I'm having difficulty uploading some of them because they trigger an automatic notice saying they might be unacceptable & that I can only upload photos I have taken myself. Others get through. It's not obvious how I can circumvent this. I have copied some by taking screenshots. Is this at least part of the problem? Thanks! Penny Penpz (talk) 13:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. The problem about your article draft is that it is entirely based on personal information that cannot be verified by anyone reading the material. Wikipedia confines itself to articles about notable people who have been written about in reliable sources, usually secondary sources (i.e. not based on interviews). Thus at present your draft is a non-starter. As to images, these can wait until the article gets accepted, if it can be improved to the standard required. At that point, the photos can be uploaded using the OTRS system, which requires the copyright holder to confirm by e-mail that they are giving permission to upload the photos, or to do so themselves. Note that the copyright holder is the photographer, not the subject of the image. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

The copyright owner needs to give more than "permission to upload them", Mike. Penpz, they would need to agree to license the images under CC-BY-SA or similar, which would allow anybody to reuse them for any purpose, commercial or not: see donating copyright materials. And your screenshots would be derivative works, protected by both the original copyright and your own copyright, I believe. But as Mike says, at the moment you are worrying about what pictures to put on the walls of your house when you haven't even surveyed the ground to see if it is safe to build the house on it. See NARTIST. --ColinFine (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Yolanda Fernandez Sanz

I just added the biography of Yolanda Fernández Sanz for Wikipedia but cannot find it to add edit references. Was it deleted/canceled/rejected? Misiwibecla (talk) 14:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You added the draft here into the Help Desk page and another editor deleted it because this is the wrong place for drafts. You should put them in your sandbox or in Draft space. You can find the text at "this DIFF". and copy/paste it back somewhere more appropriate. Ask again here if you don't know how to do that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A draft Draft:Yolanda Fernández Sanz was deleted as it had been abandoned. Theroadislong (talk) 14:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)#

In that case you can request it be restored, Misiwibecla. See WP:Requests for undeletion/G13. --ColinFine (talk) 15:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

IP Quote

Would this be plagiarism? Some IP added a three-paragraph long quote on Franck Haise Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Paul Vaurie, imo it wouldn't come under fair-use. It's too long and is in place of original prose rather than interspersed with it. In other words, yes I'd remove it. In the strictest sense it's not plagiarism because it's in quotation marks and the source is cited. Regards, Zindor (talk) 14:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How to add reliable sources without copy and pasting?

So I know how to add citations, but I know I can't copy and paste ones. The question is: How do i add citations from reliable sources that might be a good thing? I kind of want to improve on adding citations and reliable sources. And I know I cant give my opinion and ask for sources, so can you please help me? Thanks. Joshua's Number9 (talk) 14:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Joshua's Number9. Another editor has already offered to aid you with the proper use of sources and reference citations on your Talk Page. That would be the best place to continue your interactions on the subject as you build up your experience. Your talk page also has links to many other help pages for beginners. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

improving article

Courtesy link: Lavar Munroe

Can someone please give my edits (cites/refs) a look and offer some feed back. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated .  Fredlin82! (talk) 14:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Fredlin82!. You have only contributed to the article Lavar Munroe and at a brief look your edits have been improvements. I have just two comments. First, you don't use edit summaries as much as you could, for example sometimes omitting any summary at all even when you have made a substantial change. More serious, though, is that you have added an image of the sculpture "Father's Urn" which according to Wikimedia Commons is you own work (i.e. you took the photograph). That's unfortunately not good enough for a derivative work, which this is since it depicts the sculpture in which Munroe owns the copyright. You could fix this by having him use the "OTRS process". to confirm he gave you his permission to upload the image. (Ask me if you need more help on that). Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How do I report a user for their inappropriate edit summary?

How do I report a user for their inappropriate edit summary? The user obviously went beyond his limits in the article LRTA 13000 class. HiwilmsTalk 14:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Hiwilms. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The first course of action would normally be to approach an editor on their personal talk page, addressing the concerns about their edit summaries. If that failed then the last resort would be filing a report at WP:ANI. In this odd case I'm going to ask an administrator to look at this. Regards, Zindor (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hiwilms, Zindor: I have revision redacted that and another page's history where these highly uncivil edit summaries were left, and have warned the user. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

How can I add newspaper articles which were published few months back

Adding newspaper citations for wikipedia page

I am quite new to Wikipedia publishing. I have created a new wikipage for a renowned makeup artist in Malaysia. And the wikipage link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kannan_Raajamanickam. However, it was rejected due to lack of reliable sources. I learned from "Wikipedia help channel" that the resources should be independent resources such as large newspaper have written about the subject independently.

I have such newspaper collections published about the subject, but they were published a few months ago. So there's no direct link available to the newspaper's copy. (This is the link <link removed as source is an apparent copyright violation, per WP:ELNEVER> to the newspaper image). However, there's a link to the newsarticle in web article format at https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2020/jul/27/real-art-reel-reflections-2175145.html

In which format should I add the links in the citations. Please help me! 101.127.216.65 (talk) 15:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Sources do not have to be online, and even if they are, the important parts of a citation are the information which will help a reader locate the information if it isn't online, and in many cases also get a sense of its value, from its date, publication etc. In most cases, a URL is a convenience for a reader, not a required part of the citation. You should certainly not link to a scan or other online copy of a source unless it is clear that the image you are linking to was authorised by the copyright holder, because Wikipedia forbids any links to material which violates copyright. Information about how to format references, and what should appear in them, is at REFB. --ColinFine (talk) 15:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Please note my removal of the above URL above, per WP:ELNEVER. Even here that link cannot remain as a putative copyright violation. Moreover, if, as it appears, you scanned and posted that image using WhatsApp, you should take it down.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:47, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Fuhghettaboutit (talk), apologize I didn't aware of the copyrights issues! thanks for taking it down!

Hi ColinFine (talk), thanks for your clarifications. You have mentioned that "Sources do not have to be online" and "a URL is a convenience for a reader, not a required part of the citation". In that case, can I include the article's details such as publication name, date and time? Will that be sufficient to be a reliable independent citation? Otherwise, the same newspaper article is still available in web article format at web article format at https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2020/jul/27/real-art-reel-reflections-2175145.html. Will it be considered as a valid resource for citation? Kindly please clarify! Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.127.216.65 (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Certainly you can. I would present that reference (using the template 'cite news', which is not obligatory, but I find it helpful) as

{{cite news
 |title = Real art, reel reflections
 |date= 27 July 2020
 |first = Roshne
 |last = Balasubramanian
 |work = [[The New Indian Express]]
 |url =https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/chennai/2020/jul/27/real-art-reel-reflections-2175145.html
 |access-date = 2 Feb 2021}}

(I have laid it out on separate lines for clarity, but it can also be put all on one line), which displays as:

Balasubramanian, Roshne (27 July 2020). "Real art, reel reflections". The New Indian Express. Retrieved 2 Feb 2021.

If you wrap all that between <ref> and </ref>, the software will display it in the "References" section, and provide a numbered link to it in the text where you specified it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

ColinFine (talk) Thank you for the detailed information! It helps me a lot. Definitely I'll incorporate your suggestions in citations. I'd also like to ask if there's any paid services as such to expedite the Wikipage review timeline? Cos, it took nearly 90 days for my document to be reviewed. Any services or ways to speed up the review process would be highly appreciated! Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.127.216.65 (talk) 18:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Are these sockpuppets?

There are at least three accounts removing the same info from the Zeta Psi article:

BadaBing72, only 1 edit in his edit history

Phippap, 6 edits, all to this one article

User103214, 1 edit in his edit history.

There were also several IP addresses making the same edits. What do I do here? Wes sideman (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Wes sideman (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding to an existing page

I am trying to add information to my wikipedia page. 136.33.194.97 (talk) 16:20, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IP user who I presume is Kevin Harlan. Thank you: you have now gone about it the right way to make changes to Wikipedia's article about you (not "your Wikipedia page"), by posting on Talk:Kevin Harlan. An editor will get round to that at some point. But, you have not provided a reliable published source for the information. Without that, the information should not be added; so you're basically asking the person who looks at your request to go and research the information you want to add. That it is your 12th season is at least reasonbly easy to verify, but claims that something is the first (or last, or tallest) of its kind definitely need a citation to a reliable source independent of anybody connected with whatever the claim relates to. --ColinFine (talk) 17:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Going to editing semi-protected pages when I will have four days old account and 36 edits

I currently have one days old account and 36 edits. But, when my account on four days old and 36 edits, while its instruction is requires at least 10 edits, what should I do? Is able to auto-confirmed? Lkas123 (talk) 16:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lkas123. You will become autoconfirmed on February 5, 2021 at 15:37 (UTC}. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirects and Categories

Is it okay to add categories to a redirect page? It seems like it could be helpful for wikiprojects because a member of the project working on a specific genre of something would easily be able to see potential articles, and adding the categories to the page it redirects to could cause a lot of clutter or not make sense for the broader subject. But adding a category to a redirect also seems kind of weird. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello TipsyElephant. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects where the policy is explained.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

@Shantavira: Okay, I skimmed over it and it looks like my recent creation makes sense and follows the guidelines, but could you double check it for me. The redirect I created is The RobCast. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

That looks good to me.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Citing personal sources (e.g. funeral programs, obituaries, etc.)

Hi there, I was trying to expand on an entry for a deceased relative -- just the name of their parent. There's nothing really besides funeral programs, some census records. What do you suggest in terms of citing? Halibut62 (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Halibut62, but unpublished materials can never be cited, and information contained only in unpublished materials should never be included, in a Wikipedia article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Creating a page abt a notable person i know

I want to create a page about a notable person I know but I don't want there to be any bias. Can I share this page with you guys to make sure there is no bias and all the facts check out? Also, How am I able to share the page with this community so it can be reviewed by others? Tracksthegeneral (talk) 17:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Tracksthegeneral, welcome to the Teahouse. It depends on what you mean by a notable person [you] know. To what extent? Intimately? Just in passing? There's more info over at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, but if you do have one, it's generally best not to directly edit the article. Creating a new article is one of the hardest things an editor can do on here, and I would suggest thoroughly reading Wikipedia:Your first article before doing so, as it also provides a link to an article creation wizard that will start your article in draftspace. When it is ready, add {{subst:submit}} to it, but make sure the sources you're using are reliable and appropriately cited, as those tend to be the reasons why drafts get declined. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

and this [2] would suggest that you do indeed have a conflict of interest which you will need to properly disclose. Theroadislong (talk) 17:29, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

You created but did not submit a draft about Savanna Karmue, and then removed all content, leaving an empty draft at Draft:Savanna Karmue. On your User page, you had declared a COI because you are A) a close relative, B) a family friend, and C) a business consultant - and then blanked all that. If you truly intend to start over, you need to be clear on your User page the nature of your COI before you restore content to the draft. You can then submit the draft to Articles for Creation for review. Whether a 14-year old person has achieved Wikipedia's concept of notability is an interesting question. David notMD (talk) 17:59, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

All these things were pure mistakes. I accidentally logged out and wasn't able to save any drafts. Also, I will be more clear about my relationship with Savanna Karmue, starting the whole process all over again the right way. Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracksthegeneral (talk • contribs) 18:04, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Make new article from section of another article

What template am I supposed to use if I'm trying to propose that a section of an article should be moved and turned into a completely new article. I'm planning on proposing that Lore (podcast) and The NoSleep Podcast have their episode lists moved to separate articles like how The Last Podcast on the Left has a separate article for List of The Last Podcast on the Left episodes. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant, you may be thinking of {{Split section}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

A small question

There's a few articles I have seen that are rather dumb, including "Toilet paper orientation."

Are they really necessary? I mean, who really finds much interest in reading about the orientation of toilet paper? Not that it is for interesting reading, it's just kind of dumb in my opinion.

Thanks for listening if you do. Xdude gamer (talk) 17:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

It may be trivial to you, but many people clearly have strong opinions about it to such an extent that it seems to be notable enough to merit an article. I believe it has rightly earned its place at Wikipedia:Unusual_articles#Hygiene_and_sanitation.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring

Hi- Sorry I'm sure you've gotten this question a million times but I'm having trouble navigating this site. I've got a dispute over content on the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Anthony and an anonymous user who is trying to pretend they are unbiased (but that's silly) keeps adding and removing content. I tried posting on the talk page for that page, but I don't understand who sees that. If it's only him (her?) then I don't suspect we'll get very far. Thanks for your help. AnnieBee3 (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

AnnieBee3, welcome to the Teahouse. Please have a look at WP:EW and especially WP:AVOIDEDITWAR where you will everything about Edit Warring, in the meantime we will have a look on the edits at this article. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

deleted article

I recently completed my first article and saved it as a draft. it was flagged as being 'promotional' and I was trying to work on it to improve it but unfortunately it was deleted before I could finish. as my first article I understand I have a learning curve and would really like to improve it and try again. it was many many many hours of work and research. I understand there may be a way for the article to be retrieved so that all my work is not lost and I can work on it anew. Can anyone help me with that please? thank you so much Misletoe20 (talk) 18:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)