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I'm not a licensing expert, but by my count we have 11 items of non-free content as of [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans&oldid=1005274420 this revision]. While articles about modern art are going to have higher numbers of non-free works to fully explain the topic, I have my doubts that '11' meet the minimal number of items requirement in [[WP:NFCCP]] #3a. The two that catch my eye the most for removal to get this in line with the NFCC policy are the juice box, as not directly related, and one of the two torn label cans (my instinct being File:Big Torn Campbell’s Soup Can (Pepper Pot), 1962.jpg). The juice box one is used in two other articles, so removing it will only result in needing to update the fair use statement to indicate that it is no longer used in this article. But the two torn label ones are both used only in this article, so removing one will orphan it and set it up for delayed deletion, so it'll probably be better to FFD it. But then I'm worried we'll get a "But we can't delete Warhol" response at the FFD, even though I don't think two illustrations of "Warhol drew pictures of soup cans with torn labels" is compliant with NFCC. {{ping|Nikkimaria|Buidhe}} - Y'all are better with licensing than I am, so what's all y'all's opinions about the NFCC situation here? [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> [[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]</sub> 22:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
I'm not a licensing expert, but by my count we have 11 items of non-free content as of [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans&oldid=1005274420 this revision]. While articles about modern art are going to have higher numbers of non-free works to fully explain the topic, I have my doubts that '11' meet the minimal number of items requirement in [[WP:NFCCP]] #3a. The two that catch my eye the most for removal to get this in line with the NFCC policy are the juice box, as not directly related, and one of the two torn label cans (my instinct being File:Big Torn Campbell’s Soup Can (Pepper Pot), 1962.jpg). The juice box one is used in two other articles, so removing it will only result in needing to update the fair use statement to indicate that it is no longer used in this article. But the two torn label ones are both used only in this article, so removing one will orphan it and set it up for delayed deletion, so it'll probably be better to FFD it. But then I'm worried we'll get a "But we can't delete Warhol" response at the FFD, even though I don't think two illustrations of "Warhol drew pictures of soup cans with torn labels" is compliant with NFCC. {{ping|Nikkimaria|Buidhe}} - Y'all are better with licensing than I am, so what's all y'all's opinions about the NFCC situation here? [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> [[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]</sub> 22:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Generally speaking the more pieces of non-free content you have, the harder it becomes to justify each. 11 would require a whole lot of justification as to the specific value of each, and I don't see that here. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 22:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
:Generally speaking the more pieces of non-free content you have, the harder it becomes to justify each. 11 would require a whole lot of justification as to the specific value of each, and I don't see that here. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 22:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:: I've removed the juice box image and am getting ready to nominate one of the torn label cans images at FFD. I hope I do not anger someone for attempting to delete modern art. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> [[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]</sub> 22:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC) |
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- Notified: TonyTheTiger, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts, Wikipedia talk:GLAM/Museum of Modern Art, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City, [1]
This is a 2007 promotion that has been noticed since 2016, and again in December 2020, with no improvements made. Issues include, but are not limited to:
- There are unaddressed issues on the talk page dating back four years.
- There has been no response to the need for improvement posted three months ago.
- There is uncited text.
- Images have been crammed in without regard to layout, and there is considerable MOS:SANDWICHing.
- A MOS review/update is needed, eg MOS:ALLCAPS.
- There are poorly formatted citations, eg ... various authors (2012). Regarding Warhol: Sixty Artists, Fifty Years. Metropolitan Museum of Art. p. 272. ISBN 978-0300184983.
- WP:NOTPRICE; prices are sourced to a Christie's press release.
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:40, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm not a licensing expert, but by my count we have 11 items of non-free content as of this revision. While articles about modern art are going to have higher numbers of non-free works to fully explain the topic, I have my doubts that '11' meet the minimal number of items requirement in WP:NFCCP #3a. The two that catch my eye the most for removal to get this in line with the NFCC policy are the juice box, as not directly related, and one of the two torn label cans (my instinct being File:Big Torn Campbell’s Soup Can (Pepper Pot), 1962.jpg). The juice box one is used in two other articles, so removing it will only result in needing to update the fair use statement to indicate that it is no longer used in this article. But the two torn label ones are both used only in this article, so removing one will orphan it and set it up for delayed deletion, so it'll probably be better to FFD it. But then I'm worried we'll get a "But we can't delete Warhol" response at the FFD, even though I don't think two illustrations of "Warhol drew pictures of soup cans with torn labels" is compliant with NFCC. @Nikkimaria and Buidhe: - Y'all are better with licensing than I am, so what's all y'all's opinions about the NFCC situation here? Hog Farm Talk 22:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Generally speaking the more pieces of non-free content you have, the harder it becomes to justify each. 11 would require a whole lot of justification as to the specific value of each, and I don't see that here. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:19, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've removed the juice box image and am getting ready to nominate one of the torn label cans images at FFD. I hope I do not anger someone for attempting to delete modern art. Hog Farm Talk 22:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)