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*'''Comment'''. Catalonia is not a state in dispute (strictly), nor a dependent territory. The elections are very significant due to the institutional crisis with Madrid and with historical results (I am a Catalan socialist, so it has been a good night), but due to their status as regionals I do not know if they have the possibility of being in ITN. the context is not the same as in 2017. It will be an interesting debate. [[User:Alsoriano97|Alsoriano97]] ([[User talk:Alsoriano97|talk]]) 08:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


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February 15

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Arts and culture

  • Bishop David Zubik of the Pittsburgh Diocese announces that four Catholic elementary schools are merging to form two schools for the school year beginning in fall 2021. The decision comes after more than a year's deliberation and hours of study. (Catholic News Agency)

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February 14

Armed conflicts and attacks

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  • 2021 Myanmar protests
    • The leaders of the junta issue warnings to the public against harboring fugitives at the same time that arrest warrants are issued. Among the fugitives is democracy activist Min Ko Naing. (CNA)

Politics and elections


2021 Catalan regional election

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Articles: 2021 Catalan regional election (talk · history · tag) and Salvador Illa (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Socialists' Party of Catalonia, led by Salvador Illa (pictured), wins the regional election. (Post)
News source(s): Euronews, AP
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Significant election, significant result. Relevant sentence from WP:ITN/R: "Disputed states and dependent territories should be discussed at WP:ITN/C and judged on their own merits." Not from the area myself, so if anything here is mistaken feel free to be bold and fix it yourself. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. Catalonia is not a state in dispute (strictly), nor a dependent territory. The elections are very significant due to the institutional crisis with Madrid and with historical results (I am a Catalan socialist, so it has been a good night), but due to their status as regionals I do not know if they have the possibility of being in ITN. the context is not the same as in 2017. It will be an interesting debate. Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Pat Russell

Article: Pat Russell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (February 14). —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New world record in speed skating

Articles: Nils van der Poel (talk · history · tag) and 2021 World Single Distances Speed Skating Championships – Men's 10,000 metres (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nils van der Poel set a new world record in speed skating on 10 000 m. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Nils van der Poel sets a new speed skating world record in the men's 10,000 meters.
News source(s): Eurosport
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Not sure how to properly phrase it in English, so please fix/improve. Also not sure which article should be the highlighted one. Mango från yttre rymden (talk) 23:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: W. J. M. Lokubandara

Article: W. J. M. Lokubandara (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: On the shorter side but referencing looks to be adequate. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Doug Mountjoy

Article: Doug Mountjoy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Eurosport
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former UK Champion and World finalist in snooker. Article is very undersourced but this will be easier to fix when the obits come out Black Kite (talk) 20:47, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Enrique Rodríguez Galindo

Article: Enrique Rodríguez Galindo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Mundo
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish ex-Civil Guard convicted for being part of the "dirty war" against ETA terrorism. Dies from covid. He died yesterday, but I created his article today and I think is quite neutral. Copy-edit is needed. Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD/Blurb: Carlos Menem

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Article: Carlos Menem (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former President of Argentina Carlos Menem (pictured) dies at the age of 90. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Página 12, CNN, WaPo, Bloomberg, WSJ, AJ, AP, NYT, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former President of Argentina. Great ally of the US. CoryGlee (talk) 15:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As a ten-year head of state and member of the Argentine Senate until his death, he might deserve a blurb as well. Would support one, personally. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 15:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've added a blurb and a photo. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Thanks for the catch. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man Thanks for that, in the rush, everybody seemed to forget that, the little known about his fresh recent death has been added. CoryGlee (talk) 15:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just the last foreign honour to reference. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:47, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man, Hi friend, could you check now please? It's been sourced in Spanish. The article explains why the Order is considered racist after the George Floyd killing and cites (I put in quote) the Latin American leaders awarded the Order, among them Menem. CoryGlee (talk) 16:03, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, just need to pick which El Comercio it is in that source. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man Oh, I'm sorry, I just added it's El Comercio from Perú. CoryGlee (talk) 16:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb good to go to RD while discussion continues on blurb. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Tenure as president ended more than 20 years ago. – Sca (talk) 23:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Menem was serving his third term as a Senator from La Rioja, winning his latest election in 2017. Joofjoof (talk) 23:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a policy. That's an essay you created. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Like Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:38, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephen:, is it possible to put an image for the blurb? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:39, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kadir Topbaş

Article: Kadir Topbaş (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NTV, Hurriyet
Credits:
Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Old municipal mayor of Istanbul. Served 13 years at that position. Ahmetlii (talk) 09:46, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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(Ready) RD: James Ridgeway

Article: James Ridgeway (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American journalist. Article requires work. Will get to it later tonight. If someone wants to get to it earlier, please feel free to. Edits done. Article has shaped into a good C-class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 01:46, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2021 Fukushima earthquake

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Article: 2021 Fukushima earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude 7.1 earthquake strikes offshore near the eastern coast of Japan, injuring at least 151 people. (Post)
News source(s): The Japan Times, BBC, NYT, [2]
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Major earthquake in Japan. Considered an aftershock of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami, which got a spot on the Main Page. Happened less than a month before that disaster's tenth anniversary. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 05:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Yuri Vlasov

Article: Yury Vlasov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TASS
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Early bodybuilder. Soviet Olympic Gold champion. --5.44.170.9 (talk) 21:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can see why that's worth informing other editors about, but so long as the article legitimately meets WP:ITNCRIT, I don't see the harm in considering the nomination in good faith. Also note that this IP user, nor any of their previous accounts, has made no edits to the article. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 16:48, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The harm of putting an article updated by a sockpuppet/block evader on the front page is that it encourages block evaders to come back and edit. So we should deny them the recognition. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:08, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I mentioned, this user did not update or even edit the page whatsoever. (Generally, though, I would still disagree with your point per the reasons I articulated above.) AllegedlyHuman (talk) 17:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, yes WP:DENY doesn't apply if they haven't edited it (I mistakenly thought they were updater rather than nominator). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Trump acquitted

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Article: Second impeachment trial of Donald Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States Senate votes to acquit former President Donald Trump on one article of impeachment. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United States Senate votes to acquit former President Donald Trump for the second time.
Alternative blurb II: ​ By a vote of 57-43 the United States Senate fails to reach the two-thirds needed to convict former President Donald Trump.
News source(s): Star-Tribune NBC The Hill BBC
Credits:
 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per issues of neutrality and lack of citations at the end of some paragraphs... support once that is fixed. NoahTalk 21:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I added the altblurb about this so the blurb now refers to Donald Trump as "former President" instead of "President" as the latter now in office is held by Joe Biden. Nice4What, you can feel free to update the blurb. 36.76.235.92 (talk) 21:09, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Extended content
Have we posted to ITN any acquittals (whether of impeachment or not)? Jim Michael (talk) 22:44, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support For the unusual nature of a now former President being impeached and tried, makes it news worthy. --AXEdits (talk) 23:02, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support While I would be the first in line to warn ITN off being the Trump newsticker (or AMPol newsticker) and that while this result itself was mostly expected, we're still talking about a world leader having gone through a trial about crimes done by their person at a national level and had a judgement handed down. Take out "Trump" and "US" and we would be posting this if it was anyone else. --Masem (t) 23:03, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The completion of a trial of the leader of a country is ITN-worthy. Article has a few empty sections that should be filled out, but quality is fine overall. (But as usual, people always forget to mention "2021" at the start of sections.) Should be the last Trump blurb on ITN at least (unless he's arrested or something).  Nixinova T  C   23:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Status quo maintained plus he is already out office. So removal was moot. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 23:27, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • If he was convicted, he would have lost ex-president priveledges and would have been prevented from running from president again. The case was not without a moot result just because Trump was no longer president. (that was the exercise of the vote on the first day of the trial.) --Masem (t) 06:47, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is a political event with substantial ramifications for the next election and beyond. BD2412 T 23:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this is obviously historic/significant. 98.116.113.193 (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. By the logic of some of the above !opposes, any acquittal would not merit posting, which makes no sense. Davey2116 (talk) 00:16, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, considering the wall-to-wall coverage of the case. Top story in many outlets at the moment, including outside the US. Hrodvarsson (talk) 00:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support As an updater for the blurb, i believe that any results of the impeachment trial regardless conviction or acquittal is don't necessary, as long as it remains have historic and significant impact for the United States politics and around the world as he is the first former president to be tried in Senate. 36.76.235.92 (talk) 00:24, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Think this is too U.S.-centric, not globally notable enough. Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 01:49, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, cool, could you just show me the part in the WP:ITN criteria that requires a story be "globally notable"? --LaserLegs (talk) 02:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So what? --LaserLegs (talk) 02:10, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
International news coverage would seem to suggest otherwise. BD2412 T 02:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't Bush Sr. also a commoner when he died and we blurbed his passing? 45.251.33.57 (talk) 10:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As was Hank Aaron, who we blurbed not even a month ago. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 14:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yet regardless this, conviction or acquittal doesn't necessary an thing, as long as the historic trial receive significant international coverage. 36.76.235.92 (talk) 14:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – Posts running 19-11 in favor. I'm undecided: historic to a degree and widely covered, but wholly predictable and expected given the numbers; of mere passing interest outside the U.S. – Sca (talk) 14:08, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral. I honestly don't know. On one hand, it's undoubtedly major national news in the United States. On the other hand, ITN has prided itself on not being the "Trump ticker" and not giving in to U.S. bias. There are valid reasons both for posting and for not posting, as well as downsides to doing either. Definitely a catch-22.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • If we want to post this we should point out the majority voted to convict, but the vote failed because it did not reach the required two-thirds majority. Jehochman Talk 16:19, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They can read that in the article - hopefully high in the article. – Sca (talk) 22:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That may be considered POV. When the law clearly calls for requiring a 2/3 majority to convict, pointing out the presence of a simple majority would seem to be a distraction from the ultimate outcome. --WaltCip-(talk) 16:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, then let’s just state the vote as in altblurb2. That way the reader can see how close conviction was or wasn’t. A phrase like “votes to acquit” is misleading to a reader who doesn’t understand the mechanics. We could say “is acquired when the Senate fails to reach a 2/3 majority”. I think the supermajority is a critical point to include for our readers. Jehochman Talk 16:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - A US president that is basically given an OK for starting domestic terrorism is notable and historic.BabbaQ (talk) 16:24, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Posted This has been a lively debate, and both supporters and opposers have good points, and while I did previously !vote on this, I still believe that this has consensus to post given that the supporters outnumber the opposers approximately 2:1 excluding my !vote, which is a good ratio to have after quite a while of vigorous discussion. Jehochman has a fair point in the mechanics of the vote; we do not post specific numbers on ITN, and I don't think the majority voting to convict is relevant enough for the blurb given the ultimate outcome, so I simply put "is acquitted" to avoid confusion/POV. Any discussion on the blurb itself goes to WP:ERRORS. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 17:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting opinion, I think ITN is becoming too, way too US-centric. Just an opinion, don't jump on me please. CoryGlee (talk) 17:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Time flies too fast. Just some weeks ago, people at WT:ITN were complaining there were too many typhoon blurbs. The Philippines was blasted by five in one month, and were pushing for WP:ITNR levels of 100 WP:ITNMINIMUMDEATHS for typhoons. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this is the English Wikipedia, and America is by far the largest English-speaking nation by population. The fact that world events are covered as much as they are, in fact, I would say is a testament to our fight against systemic bias. I agree that there's still some way to go, however. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 17:49, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing in the guidelines says anything about "global importance" or "systemic bias", we have a specific guideline against opposing items because they only relate to one country, and if you want to fight your perceived issue of bias, get articles about other countries up to scratch instead of trying to suppress stories from the one country which you believe is over represented. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:22, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I really don't like that the successful posting of a nom on ITN verges on whether or not there is a majority of supports to opposes. Putting a "!" in front of "vote" doesn't hide that inconvenient truth.--WaltCip-(talk) 18:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Counting is part of the process, WaltCip, as is weighing the arguments. There were no procedural opposes, nothing really compelling in the supports or opposes so yeah, a count gets to be a factor. I opposed it too, but I don't see posting it as a sign of some underlying defect with ITN (that is exposed by the awful articles which fester in ongoing for months on end) --LaserLegs (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment First (to get that out of the way) it is definitely in the worldwide news. Apart from that, assessing newsworthiness here requires thinking about why this event is seen by so many worldwide outlets as front page material: notwithstanding that the verdict was predictable, notwithstanding the amount of press related subjects have already been given. I leave to your discretion just how relevant the U.S. is these days as a leader and symbol of worldwide democracy. Instead, I will simply point out that impeachment is not just another "ticker tape / dead horse" item. After all, it is supposed to be the ultimate sanction at U.S. leadership levels. It has only been used successfully four times in U.S. presidential history: so not exactly everyday stuff here, even if the past three decades seem to suggest otherwise. When it was conceived, there was no such thing as political parties; but partisan politics has been a significant factor each time it has been invoked. This is actually the least partisan impeachment vote in the U.S. ever. Thus, personally, I do support the "fails to meet the 2/3" suggestion as relevant; but I think the acquittal relevant to post with or without it. - Tenebris 66.11.165.101 (talk) 18:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Leader of culture, sure, but leader of democracy, absolutely not. Agree with the rest though.  Nixinova T  C   19:05, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Last chance to sell newspapers with Trump on the front for a few years. Hopefully last time this orange peril makes Wikipedia's main page for a few years. We fought hard to keep this becoming a Trump ticker, but in the end, even he won. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:50, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Depends on what kind of newspapers we're talking about. (And BTW, what's a 'newspaper' anyway?) – Sca (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be careful who I'd say "he won" around... /s AllegedlyHuman (talk) 20:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How is this not "extended content"? InedibleHulk (talk) 20:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh come now, we'll all welcome "Former US president Donald Trump is sentenced to 75 years at USP Marion for crimes committed while in office". --LaserLegs (talk) 23:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Alberto Oliart

Article: Alberto Oliart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Mundo
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Leaded the Ministry of Defence of Spain after the coup d'état of 1981. Dies from COVID-19. I'm working on his article. Alsoriano97 (talk) 14:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Ongoing: 2021 Myanmar protests

Article: 2021 Myanmar protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: For when the military coup blurb rolls off the list. Johndavies837 (talk) 08:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

content diff to present. POV comments like "pro-military instigators". Not suitable for main page, IMO. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
LOL "probably live ammunition" this article is rubbish. No "new, pertinent information" added since this nom was opened. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Could you link to the edit in the target article where that new, pertinent information was added? --LaserLegs (talk) 14:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. it's a trick question. Whether or not the event is ongoing is irrelevant, is the article still receiving high quality updates? Is it? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Sinyo Harry Sarundajang

Article: Sinyo Harry Sarundajang (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Second former governor from Indonesia who died this week. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) New Italian government

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Article: Draghi Cabinet (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After weeks of political crisis, Mario Draghi is sworn in as Prime Minister of Italy and forms a new government. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Mario Draghi (pictured) becomes Prime Minister of Italy, leading a national unity government after the resignation of Giuseppe Conte.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former ECB President Mario Draghi (pictured) becomes Prime Minister of Italy, leading a national unity government after the resignation of Giuseppe Conte.
News source(s): Guardian, The New York Times, BBC, Reuters
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The swearing-in ceremony happens at 11:00 AM UTC, so we should wait at least until then to post it. Ritchie92 (talk) 08:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Pinging @Nick.mon: and @Broncoviz: who are the main contributors to the Draghi cabinet article. --Ritchie92 (talk) 09:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Was this really a "political crisis"? Italy has had 67 governments since WWII, and as I understand it the resignation of the last government was strategic, to get this result. Not saying I oppose this, just questioning the characterization. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As it always happens with a government change in a major country, I think we should include it. I’m Italian, maybe I’m a bit biased, but I support Ritchie92’s proposal. -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
STSC "Support per ITNR" is not required, as that's the whole point of the ITNR list. 331dot (talk) 20:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken. Overall the article seems OK in terms of quality and update. STSC (talk) 05:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support it's a change of Prime Minister, which is ITNR, even if Italy does this all the time. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:07, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – While I agree that unfortunately Italy does change their head of government too much, the news itself is worth a mention since this is a national unity cabinet. My two cents. Broncoviz (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The header is referring to the government, the bolded item in the example sentence is Draghi. Can we have some kind of statement on which article we should be looking at here? Support either option: Both are well sourced. Italy changes its government regularly, but it is still a G7 country and changes to its head of government are important. The national unity government/grand coalition aspect makes this less usual as well Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Unknown Temptation and Tone: I'm actually not sure what is better in these cases: if we need to make the government bold then the sentence should be slightly restructured. An option would be:
Mario Draghi (pictured) becomes Prime Minister of Italy, leading a national unity government after the resignation of Giuseppe Conte.
What about this? --Ritchie92 (talk) 18:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I like this one. Ready to post when I see some more feedback. --Tone 18:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pithon314 PM is head of government, not state, though ITNR still applies. ITNR items do not need support on the merits, as that is the whole point of the list. 331dot (talk) 20:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
change to Oppose I don't believe it can be posted as blurb due to fact that it likely to be collided with another blurb on the same about conclusion of impeachment trial. 36.76.235.92 (talk) 20:49, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mh, I don't understand. There is no such thing as "collision" of blurbs. There are many blurbs at the same time in the ITN section. --Ritchie92 (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Holy crap, a spacecraft just narrowly missed Liechtenstein! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Draghi is the legitimate PM of Italy as per the Italian Constitution. I don't understand your objections. Also, this is ITN/R, so it is automatically relevant for publication in ITN. --Ritchie92 (talk) 00:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Rupert Neve

Article: Rupert Neve (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WSJ
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British-American entrepreneur and audio engineer. Article requires some work before it is ready for homepage / RD. Definitely doable. Will work on it this afternoon, but, if someone wants to get to it earlier, please feel free to do so. Edits done. Article meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Need some guidance on the "Associated Companies" section. Did a round of cleanup of that section, and is also cited. If someone has some feedback on leaving as-is vs removing that section vs any other action, please feel free to let me know. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 17:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Instead of having separate sections for the associated companies, maybe make it 1 section and condense related info into paragraphs? (e.g. anything ARN consultants into 1 paragraph; merge Neve and AMS Neve into 1 paragraph, etc.) Also not sure if we need all the pictures too. Otherwise, looks pretty good to me. Support if changes are made. SpencerT•C 22:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ktin I went ahead and made those changes. 2 additional comments: what does "ARN Consultants currently trades under the name Rupert Neve Designs" mean? (What are they trading? It's not listed in the stock market, no?) If there are also dates for the associated companies section (what year did they do the designs, etc.) that would be useful if you have access to that info. SpencerT•C 22:27, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      Spencer, Thanks Spencer. Let me give it some search. Doable I think. Ktin (talk) 22:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments. Edits per the above request completed. Ambivalent on retaining the images as-is vs removing them. I am not an audiophile, but, these might hold meaning for folks who are related to this topic. Article meets hygiene conditions for homepage / RD at this stage. Ktin (talk) 23:57, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 00:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Milford Graves

Article: Milford Graves (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): pitchfork, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: renowned American jazz drummer, percussionist, professor, researcher/inventor, visual artist/sculptor, gardener/herbalist, and martial artist passed away on February 12, 2021 --Wil540 art (talk) 00:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Lynn Stalmaster

Article: Lynn Stalmaster (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood; Variety; The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 12:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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(HELP) RD: George Benneh

Article: George Benneh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Graphic
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Ghanaian academic. Vice Chancellor of the University of Ghana and a former bureaucrat. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 01:49, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Isadore Singer

Article: Isadore Singer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American Mathematician. Will work on expanding the article a bit. Should be ready soon. Basic edits done. Article has shaped to a decent C-class biography. Meets expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 01:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: S. Prestley Blake

Article: S. Prestley Blake (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 23:20, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Bukhari Daud

Article: Bukhari Daud (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Well sourced and updated correctly. Gex4pls (talk) 16:41, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Indonesian English teacher and regent. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Please can we add the sources as well while nominating. I have not been able to search / find an English language source that announced this death. While that is absolutely not a prerequisite for posting, will be good for an extra pair of eyes to see the article and the news item before any article goes to homepage. Cheers and good luck. Ktin (talk) 03:43, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose: He was known for being Regent of Aceh Besar, but the section about that is mostly about his resignation attempt and has some vague analysis ("assessment" section) without saying much about what he specifically did in his 5-year role. This is a common issue for sub-national politician articles here at RD. SpencerT•C 03:57, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I've drawn this request back after considerations. @Ktin:, I'm sorry but I can't find one. If you allow me to use Fataldeaths.com and www.dead-people.com as a source then I will gladly use it. As for Spencer, I'm combing for sources in kompasdata.id and majalah.tempo.com, the two most reliable sources in Indonesia's media. The latter doesn't give me any results, but the former yields some interesting headlines. I'll see if I could add some more materials regarding his works from the sources. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Spencer: I've added some materials regarding his works from the available sources. I hope this satisfies you. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 14:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jayalal Rohana

Article: Jayalal Rohana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sunday Observer, The Morning, Ada Derana
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sri Lankan actor. Appears to be well-sourced. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:12, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Ktin (talk) 19:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Most Distant Known Solar System Object Is FarFarOut

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Article: FarFarOut (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Accurate distance measurements to the object FarFarOut confirm that it is the Solar System's most remote object (Post)
Alternative blurb: FarFarOut is confirmed to be the Solar System's most remote object observable from Earth
News source(s): NOIRLab
Credits:

Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 06:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The article is pretty short, and contradicts the blurb. I have added an altblurb more in line with article text. If this is incorrect, go ahead and change it elsewise.130.233.213.199 (talk) 07:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There's currently no mention of this specific discovery in the article as a news event. There's only a few sentences mentioning 2018 AG37 as "announced" in February 2021, which seems strange for an object discovered in 2018 with sources in the article describing it perfectly from 2019. If this were really a major news event, I would think that there should be some hoopla about it in the science community – I'm not saying there isn't, but if so, then the article doesn't currently reflect that at all. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AllegedlyHuman, right in the lead it says "At a very faint apparent magnitude of +25, only the largest telescopes in the world can observe it.[1] Being so far from the Sun, 2018 AG37 moves very slowly among the background stars and has only been observed 9 times over 2 years.[4] It may require an observation arc of several years to refine the uncertainties in the ~1000 year orbital period and whether it is currently close to or at aphelion (furthest distance from the Sun)", it's physically impossible to have a good idea of how far it is when it was first discovered. At that distance (c. 4.35 to 4.45 times Neptune) probably 80-something percent of the motion or more is just Earth's orbit making it move back and forth in a little squiggle less than 1 degree wide. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:16, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really sure what your point is. (Please understand that I know much less about science than you.) AllegedlyHuman (talk) 14:24, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For something that far, the discovery will always be too old for ITN when the distance is determined. And you shouldn't expect too much, it's just a speck the size of a millimeter from 30 miles away, smaller than the observers' pixels probably. And even that depends on how bright or dark its color is which is not known. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:30, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. Thanks for the comment. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 16:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unless that's a typo for 2018 the plus or minus error amounts as of 13 months after discovery in the infobox are huge, it's so big it broke their simple error system as it shows a year of 800 plus or minus 940 years. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:30, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It took 3 years just to pin down its distance to "c. 4.4 Neptunes plus or minus 0.05". It's physically impossible for a 130 AU distance to ever be pinned down well while the discovery is recent enough for ITN. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Leslie E. Robertson

Article: Leslie E. Robertson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American designer and engineer. Article is not ready yet. I will work on this one later tonight. Edits done. Article meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 19:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Katherine Creag

Article: Katherine Creag (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: NBC New York reporter. Unexpected death, unknown cause. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support, Support if above resolved. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Jeromi Mikhael, I've removed the unsourced birthdate. As you mention, all obituaries name her as 47 years old. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 17:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AllegedlyHuman Maybe remove the "/1974" part? Her home television, NBC, mentions her birth as 1973. See this also for screenshot. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:28, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:00, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, AllegedlyHuman. Support Adequate referencing and OR fixed. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:23, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephen: Hi, Stephen, is it possible to lock the article for a short period? As per above, her birth date part is considered unsourced, but an IP keeps adding the date again and again. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 14:54, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Forget about this, someone has already added a source to the DOB. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:33, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ibrahim Othman Ibrahim Idris

Article: Ibrahim Othman Ibrahim Idris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Day 1 Gitmo detainee. Lawyer alleges death was due to the camp. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Media Without a Choice

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Article: Media Without a Choice (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ ongoing protest occurring against the government of Poland due to a proposed tax on advertising. The protests and participants include media such as press, radio and television who protest by ceasing they activity such as publishing news or advertisements and turning off their transmissions, instead airing texts "there should be your ad" etc. on black backgrounds. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Protest against taxation put on indented media most likely mend to drive them away from the country, letting bias state-controled media gain bigger reach
Alternative blurb II: ​ Part of protests against current actions of ruling party in Poland (Law and Justice) against the democracy and free speech in the country
News source(s): [7] [8][9][10] and more
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Important ongoing event in Poland. Law and Justice party, holding majority in the nation's parament, for the last years has been taking significant actions to gain more power, destroying the democracy in the process. While on the cover it seems like fight over money, truth is that the tax is targeted against free media as government tries to force them away from the country leaving mostly only propaganda-filled state-owned media. By adding this to the "in the news", it will let protest reach people world wide, showing how "Law and Justice" party slowly strips away the democracy and free speech in Poland. TheEditMate (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Doesn't seem like a major deal. Article just says "some people" protested: "a few protests" with "several dozen people" in one and 150 in another; tiny.  Nixinova T  C   04:20, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The article is now orange-tagged for a section using us to advertise its virality for cheap. I added it, but not to suit my agenda here. Just noticed it truly deserves it, but will switch my vote to Abstain if now ethically required. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:55, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This brushes up against RGW, and I'm having a hard time making the leap from "taxing advertising" to "destroying democracy". It's a sort of bizarro libertarianism in service to progressive media message that would take a good amount of explaining to get across to a EN reader.130.233.213.199 (talk) 07:42, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose On top of everything that everyone else has said, which I entirely agree with, there's no way this article meets WP:ITNCRIT. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Yurnalis Ngayoh

Article: Yurnalis Ngayoh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Governor of East Kalimantan, buried earlier this day. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: It's a quite new article, I'll work on that section. Besides, the article only mentions Saint Juvenalis but don't mention which one — since the person is dead I think that section would remain tagged forever and ever. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:39, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: I have filled the section. Feel free to check it. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Alberto Corazón

Article: Alberto Corazón (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fahrenheit Magazine Spain
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish designer. I will work this evening on expanding the article. Does not meet hygiene standards for the homepage currently. es.wikipedia has some good content. If someone wants to get to it before me, please feel free to do so. Cheers. Edits and content expansion done. Meets hygiene expectation for homepage / RD. Rater.js says B-class, but, I think it just scratches the surface of a C-class biography. Good to go nevertheless. Ktin (talk) 23:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD/Blurb: Larry Flynt

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Article: Larry Flynt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TMZ, VarietyWashington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: I don't know if TMZ is considered adequate for this, but they're generally right. Have not yet checked for quality. Maybe, just maybe, worth a blurb given his contributions to freedom of speech and impact on US culture. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 23:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not yet certain he merits a blurb, but he did greatly affect free speech law in the US. 331dot (talk) 10:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Same. He might not be more influential than Heffner (who we blurbed) but he was certainly more consequential. A stellar article would tip the balance for me. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:47, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hef did not get a blurb. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Billy Conigliaro

Article: Billy Conigliaro (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Albert Hale

Article: Albert Hale (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Arizona politician and former president of the Navajo Nation. Died of COVID-19. Interesting figure, but the article needs some work. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I've taken a stab at it, and I think it's a lot better now. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 10:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Removal of COVID-19 pandemic from Ongoing

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Article: COVID-19 pandemic (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Nominator's comments: 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest was nominated for removal from Ongoing on February 2 and it was removed on February 9. The reason was that the community deemed that the article lacked sufficient content updates since at least 5 days prior. However, the article for COVID-19 pandemic has not received substantial update going back to at least January 29 (and arguably to past January 22 or even earlier). (See https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=COVID-19_pandemic&type=revision&diff=1005873247&oldid=1003586499&diffmode=source for reference of changes to the time of writing.) In review, there have been refs added, 2 small updates on investigations in Wuhan and that the Wuhan food market does not seem to be the originating point, a line about a Brazil variant in Minnesota, and a death toll update. This is comparable to the list on the 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest removal nomination. Therefore COVID-19 pandemic should be removed similarly on principle by the same reason, or either the article should be updated to meet the criteria or the criteria updated as appropriate. - Indefensible (talk) 01:53, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • This was just discussed at WT:ITN, where the point is that this banner is still very necessary but there has been a refocus of what topics are in place. Just because the main pandemic article is not updated is not reason to remove the whole banner where the other articles supporting it have been. --Masem (t) 02:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose We're still in a global pandemic. COVID-19 pandemic is edited nearly every day, and sure it hasn't received "substantial update", because of the zillions of subarticles that get the updates (Indian farmers protest has no subarticles, so apples and oranges comparison). Updating this one article for a worldwide pandemic is unrealistic. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Removal it's been going on for a year, everyone knows about it. There aren't any major new developments, just the ebb and flow of lockdowns and vaccines. @Ktin:s stats showed that barely 10% of the hits to the COVID-19 article come from the main page. Having it in the box still satisfies some aspects of the WP:ITN#Purpose but we've never had something up for anywhere close to this long before. Yes, there is still a pandemic going on but what is the benefit of linking to it from the ITN box? --LaserLegs (talk) 02:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose yeah, ITN is not self-consistent. Banedon (talk) 02:29, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose How is this even being considered? Have you left the house recently? WaltCip-(talk) 04:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: J. Hillis Miller

Article: J. Hillis Miller (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): UCI Release
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American literary critic. Professor. Death announced on this date. Article requires some work. Doable. Edits and expansion done. Article has shaped into a beautiful B-class biography. RIP Prof. Miller. For those who'd want to see a video click hereKtin (talk) 01:21, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Chick Corea

Article: Chick Corea (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American jazz composer, won 23 Grammies and nominated over 60 times. Article seems to be in good shape. Kline | vroom vroom 22:48, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

His prog rock stuff isn't exactly revolutionary, either. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe a blurb was proposed. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 00:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You aren't @AllegedlyHuman, there was no blurb proposed. Kline | vroom vroom 01:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support RD I studied with a lot of music majors and Chick Corea was greatly admired and well-known among my classmates. He has many classics. (I'm not actually a music major myself but I was in Choir in college). -TenorTwelve (talk) 02:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that beyond being notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, the notability of the subject is not relevant to whether or not an RD is merited. "Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post." AllegedlyHuman (talk) 02:41, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Anybody remember the last time an "organism" got the nod? InedibleHulk (talk) 03:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean "non-human" then a horse went up less than a year ago. The "organism" is there probably for edge cases where the deceased is not multicellular eukaryotic organisms [from] the biological kingdom Animalia. Famous fungi? Fab fruit? Idk. I vaguely remember a tree being nominated long ago.130.233.213.199 (talk) 12:04, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose if The Big Tree ever came down, I'd want it on RD... AllegedlyHuman (talk) 12:28, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The article should be held to a "minimum standard of quality". Combing over each and every sentence looking for sources is completely unnecessary. Yes, it could use more, but considering that there are citations in each section and important points are supported, the article absolutely meets the criteria. SrAlfredos (talk) 09:50, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone added the obligatory cn tags yet? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:35, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, just one big one. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:47, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:In the news#Article quality says that "one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article"- but this isn't 1 or 2 needed, but at least 10 places with unsourced content. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The minimum standard of quality is a prose argument. Any article considered for RD requires adherence to WP:BLP. We can't have a largely unsourced article on a recently deceased person go to the Main Page based on "well, that's probably all correct." AllegedlyHuman (talk) 12:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The article absolutely does not meet the criteria. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose needs more sourcing, as per my comments above. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. Needs more sourcing.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 19:08, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support Cleary meets first and second criteria for WP:ITNRD (which is not official policy but a guideline to assist with consensus forming). I'm not seeing nearly enough problems with the article to have the third criteria trump the other two and wipe out the nomination. It looks like bureaucratic pedantry and entrenchment might prevent this nomination from succeeding, which I would say goes against the spirit of our work here. RandomGnome (talk) 19:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Being in the news and being of quality are equal "sufficient and necessary" requirements for ITNRD posting. We can't ignore the quality requirements that any element set for the main page just because of the importance of the person. --Masem (t) 19:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Correct, however I didn't mention the importance of the person. Correct me if I am wrong, but the requirements you speak of are not strictly 'requirements', but guidelines just information intended to help form consensus, which itself is ultimately the deciding factor. WP:ITNRD is not official policy. RandomGnome (talk) 19:55, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support The article isn't exactly FA-quality, but it's solid enough, and Corea was an extremely important person in the jazz world. If the article isn't ready yet, I think it would be worth it to do a rapid revamp to improve the article before his death becomes outdated. Kokopelli7309 (talk) 01:59, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Elliot Mazer

Article: Elliot Mazer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone; Ultimate Classic Rock; NME
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (February 9). —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Gex4pls: according to WP:ALLMUSIC (on the WP:RSP list): "There is consensus that RhythmOne websites are usable for entertainment reviews with attribution. Some editors question the accuracy of these websites for biographical details and recommend more reliable sources when available." Please note that I did not use AllMusic for any of Mazer's bio details, and only to verify his discography list. —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Moufida Tlatli

Article: Moufida Tlatli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian; Arab News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (February 9). —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:35, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Collapsing side discussion about fundamental issues with the RD process not particularly isolated to this nomination. SpencerT•C 16:56, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Stephen, Stephen, this posting has pushed M. Bala Subramanion off the carousel in ~5 hours. Please can we bring that back for a brief bit. Spencer for earlier context. Ktin (talk) 04:32, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I feel like a broken record, but there is no consensus for minimum duration or more than 6 RDs. M. Bala Subramanion isn't even the last one to have dropped off, and wouldn't have got any time under the old regime as he was nominated rather late. Stephen 04:45, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Stephen, The other article also spent ~5 hours and should also be reinstated. The article took ~6 hours of work to get it ready with all the research, and if we can not afford basic time on the homepage that just speaks about deliberate lack of empathy for contributors' time and efforts. This after the COVID banner was removed under the promise that it would afford blurbs and RDs more space. Ktin (talk) 04:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    No, the COVID banner was removed without any consensus of how to use the space. We have fallen back to the previous 4 blurbs rather than generally 3. There is no consensus for minimum duration or more than 6 RDs, and we are seeing far more posting under the new model where RDs only go stale after 7 days. As I've said before an RfC is the only way to change the status quo, and in my opinion would likely support a modest change.
    Respectfully, disagree with your first statement. The very first line of that COVID banner removal discussion starts with we free up a line for RDs or blurbs or whatever we want. With that discussion ending in the banner having been removed, we not using that third row for overflows seems like we are willfully reneging on the promise that was made. At the cost of me sounding like a broken record (to borrow above phrasing), an article being cycled in 5 hours is definitely disrespectful, when there is space to flow onto. Yes, one could argue that these didn't stand a chance in the old world, neither in the world of three years ago, nor in the world of a few months ago. But, that the community is working these many articles is an absolute win for the project and that is where we are currently. Queue management is not an unsolved problem. Ktin (talk) 06:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Second impeachment trial of Donald Trump

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Article: Second impeachment trial of Donald Trump (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:
Nominator's comments: It is noteworthy of being posted. Interstellarity (talk) 18:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Marty Schottenheimer

Article: Marty Schottenheimer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chargers coach, Alzheimers --Rockin (Talk) 15:10, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RockinJack18, my wife's family in Missouri would be very offended to see you call him the Chargers coach. It needs sourcing. If I have time, I may help find it. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My condolences to your inlaws for this recent loss. Also for Butch Reed, Willie Scott and the Superbowl. Been a rough four days for the Chiefs all around. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Anthony Sowell

Article: Anthony Sowell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times; The Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American serial killer who murdered 11 women. Infamous case, well written, and well sourced article. Inexpiable (talk) 10:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Franco Marini

Article: Franco Marini (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Repubblica
Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former president of the Italian Senate and once called to become the president of the Republic. Dies from COVID-19. Article needs work. Alsoriano97 (talk) 09:39, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mary Wilson

Article: Mary Wilson (singer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety; NBC News
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Founding member of The SupremesAllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Mars probes

Articles: Emirates Mars Mission (talk · history · tag) and Tianwen-1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ UAE's Hope orbiter reaches Mars orbit (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ UAE's Hope orbiter and China's Tianwen-1 reach Mars orbit.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The UAE's Hope orbiter reaches Mars' orbit, where it will build a holistic model of the Martian atmosphere
News source(s): AP, BBC and NYTimes (on UAE), BBC, CNN (on China)
Credits:

Article needs updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: This is a prepatory nom. UAE's Hope is due to arrive by 9am ET on Feb 9, while China's Tianwen-1 on Feb 10. (Hope will just orbit; Tianwen-1 will try to subsequently land in May). This is all ahead of next week when Perseverance (rover) is due to land on Mars on Feb 18. While we need to confirm that both of these missions make orbit, this is unlikely to be an issue, but it does not make sense to make these separate blurbs being a day apart, hence the first blurb is if the Hope mission is ready to go before the China probe is confirmed, then once the China probe confirmed, then using the alt blurb. Masem (t) 06:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Emirates Mars Mission now has an orange tag but Tianwen-1 is OK. Shall we just post a blurb for Tianwen-1 first? STSC (talk) 19:43, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Micronesian countries quit the Pacific Islands Forum

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Article: Pacific Islands Forum (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Palau, the Marshall Islands, Kiribati, Nauru, and the Federated States of Micronesia leave the Pacific Islands Forum in response to former Cook Islands prime minister Henry Puna being elected Secretary-General. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Five Micronesian countries leave the Pacific Islands Forum after former Cook Islands prime minister Henry Puna is elected Secretary-General in spite of a "gentlemen's agreement" on sub-regional rotation of leadership.
News source(s): Guardian NYT more Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Apparent collapse of the most important institution in the Pacific on the occasion of its 50th anniversary. Among the biggest stories in years for a region that doesn't get a lot of coverage at ITN. We've posted Pacific Islands Forum meetings in the past, and this was a more significant outcome than any other PIF summit in history. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 01:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Article has an decent update covering recent events. SpencerT•C 02:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Interesting occurence, though probably not exactly headline news. Regardless, the "Secretaries General" section could use some citations. Juxlos (talk) 02:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this requires each of the countries to follow procedures to vote internally to follow on that removal. "Each nation will undertake this process with respect to its own internal legal and procedural requirements and [the] final decision rests with respective governments." It may be that this action can be stopped through ongoing negotiations, so this should not be taken as final. --Masem (t) 02:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • While that is true, this is when the story is making headlines and it also dually serves as a posting for this year's edition of the PIF, which has been posted in the past and also had another major drama this year. If nothing changes and they officially leave the Forum one-by-one, that won't be big news since we already knew it was going to happen. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 04:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Understood this is likely the point of most importances, but that said, I'd reconsider the phrasing to be something like "...counties announced their intention to leave the PIF..." leaving the implication about the formal national process as an exercise to the reader. --Masem (t) 06:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • News coverage is not including such qualifiers (see Guardian headline) and the official statement says “the Micronesian presidents jointly agreed to forthwith initiate the formal process of withdrawal from the Pacific Islands Forum respecting their national processes and will act swiftly like the Republic of Palau," which I believe has already completed the process of leaving. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 07:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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February 8

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

  • Twenty-four workers die in a flooded illegally-run textile workshop in a private house in Tangier, Morocco, which occurred as a result of intense rains that hit the region. Ten others were rescued and hospitalized. (Al Jazeera)

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) RD: Maria Guarnaschelli

Article: Maria Guarnaschelli (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Pioneer American Cookbook editor and publisher. Death announced on this date. Rater.js says B-class, but, I think this is a solid C-class biography. Good to go to homepage / RD.

RD: Maaher At-Thuwailibi

Article: Maaher At-Thuwailibi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Coconuts
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:31, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Vera Wülfing-Leckie

Article: Vera Wülfing-Leckie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: She was a red link. Unusual obit, by her ex-husband. Unusual life, medicine/homeopathy and literature translation, four countries (Europe, Africa), four children. (Her husband had 10. His article should be expanded.) Nobody else wrote her article - I waited. Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jean-Claude Carrière

Article: Jean-Claude Carrière (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian; Deadline Hollywood; Le Monde
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 05:03, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: S. Clay Wilson

Article: S. Clay Wilson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American cartoonist. Article requires some work including citations. I will get started later this evening. If someone wants to get started prior, please feel free to do so. Thanks. Sorry folks, could not get to this article tonight. Focused on a different article. But, will get to this one soon. Sorry again folks. Tonight has been a tad rough with that other adverse event being demotivating. This article will require some focused attention. Will get to it. Ktin (talk) 07:37, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: David Egerton

Article: David Egerton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Lions
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Short but well sourced. There's a RM for the article title, but this shouldn't affect it being on RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jean Obeid

Article: Jean Obeid (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MSN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lebanese politician, journalist. - Indefensible (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Shlomo Hillel

Article: Shlomo Hillel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): JPost
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Israeli politician. - Indefensible (talk) 19:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tony Collins

Article: Tony Collins (footballer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British footballer. - Indefensible (talk) 17:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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